Hoosierxc wrote:
My favorite story from Chapa’s high school years was the cross country state meet in 1974. Hammond High had 3 great runners, but their 4th and 5th runners were weaker. In an attempt to minimize points to try to win the meet, Chapa and his teammate Carey Pinkowski intentionally tied for the win, each earning one point for their team! Hammond still wasn’t able to bring the team title home, they finished 4th.
Tim Keough = the third tenor.
I really wish you'd write a book, Malmo. I think so many would enjoy it.
dkdkdf wrote:
I really wish you'd write a book, Malmo. I think so many would enjoy it.
+1
I ran at Hammond in 75-76 for Coach Candiano, who asked me to go out for cross country after I ran a 9:03 for 1.5 miles at PE one day... I just marveled at what Rudy, Cary and Tim were doing. Rudy would routinely run home from meets, even if they were 10+miles away. Very un-assuming, sort of the antithesis of Pinkowski. Tim was the "Hippy" free thinker of the bunch - his twin brother Tom was a very good wrestler. Tim passed away a few years ago, sadly. I think RUdy is still in Oregon working for Nike(?), and Pink is the RD for the Chicago Marathon. Great memories..!
Nice post.
Pin told me that Keough was the most talented of the three. That's saying a lot.
RJC2010 wrote:
I ran at Hammond in 75-76 for Coach Candiano, who asked me to go out for cross country after I ran a 9:03 for 1.5 miles at PE one day... I just marveled at what Rudy, Cary and Tim were doing. Rudy would routinely run home from meets, even if they were 10+miles away. Very un-assuming, sort of the antithesis of Pinkowski. Tim was the "Hippy" free thinker of the bunch - his twin brother Tom was a very good wrestler. Tim passed away a few years ago, sadly. I think RUdy is still in Oregon working for Nike(?), and Pink is the RD for the Chicago Marathon. Great memories..!
More stories please! What was Candiano like? How did he get 3 kids to accept and handle such crazy training? Any details surrounding Rudy's epic 28:32 that year? How did he avoid injuries running with such a workload? What was the rest of the team like and how did they train?
I talked to Dan's wife years ago in her classroom at Hammond High and she seemed to relay that it was all a bunch of craziness that was bound to implode. Did Candiano leave after Rudy graduated?
And what an unlikely place - Hammond High. Industrial town in the shadow of Chicago, but not a part of it. No track at the high school(!) and no welcoming training sites.
I always wondered what type of injury Rudy suffered after running NYC in 83. He looked so smooth and in control running 2:11 on that course.
RJC2010 wrote:
I ran at Hammond in 75-76 for Coach Candiano, who asked me to go out for cross country after I ran a 9:03 for 1.5 miles at PE one day... I just marveled at what Rudy, Cary and Tim were doing. Rudy would routinely run home from meets, even if they were 10+miles away. Very un-assuming, sort of the antithesis of Pinkowski. Tim was the "Hippy" free thinker of the bunch - his twin brother Tom was a very good wrestler. Tim passed away a few years ago, sadly. I think RUdy is still in Oregon working for Nike(?), and Pink is the RD for the Chicago Marathon. Great memories..!
Might have been classmate with one of your classmates--although never did get the full story. His name was Ken, class of 1976, and he said he ran ca: 1:59 or 2:00 in the 880. Was definitely from Hammond and think he went to same HS as Chapa. He didn't run in college and don't think he stayed there longer than a year or two.
Everyone from Illinois and Indiana know the super stud was Chapa, Pinkowski a super stud too. They graduated a year apart. Keough was quite a runner, but never in the same discussion as Chapa/Pinkowski
RIP Tim Keough.
kmjn wrote:
Wejo, why don't you interview him?
I'm in Texas. Didn't make it to NCAAs.
I met Rudy when he was in law school at Indiana University. In fact, I introduced him to his future wife, Trish Eiting, who was a high jumper on the team. Rudy trained with the team some as he was preparing for his New York marathon. He was an absolute legend in the state, and I think every distance runner on the team could only stare at him when he ran with us. Totally friendly, likable, humble, modest guy. What I remember most about him is the weird-ass Nike shoes that he wore. I'm not sure how many runners Nike did this for, but they made shoes specifically for him. You couldn't find anything like them in the stores. Odd designs, bright colors. I remember him mentioning he would probably never take the bar exam and that he would probably go back and immediately work for Nike after he graduated law school, which he did. He rose through the ranks at Nike, and I believe he became one of the company's board members. I think he's also been on the governing board at OU. He also started a company called SPARQ, which was sort of an athletic fitness test for athletes. He would later sell the company to Nike.
Larry Dickman wrote:
I met Rudy when he was in law school at Indiana University. In fact, I introduced him to his future wife, Trish Eiting, who was a high jumper on the team. Rudy trained with the team some as he was preparing for his New York marathon. He was an absolute legend in the state, and I think every distance runner on the team could only stare at him when he ran with us. Totally friendly, likable, humble, modest guy. What I remember most about him is the weird-ass Nike shoes that he wore. I'm not sure how many runners Nike did this for, but they made shoes specifically for him. You couldn't find anything like them in the stores. Odd designs, bright colors. I remember him mentioning he would probably never take the bar exam and that he would probably go back and immediately work for Nike after he graduated law school, which he did. He rose through the ranks at Nike, and I believe he became one of the company's board members. I think he's also been on the governing board at OU. He also started a company called SPARQ, which was sort of an athletic fitness test for athletes. He would later sell the company to Nike.
Wow, what an accomplished guy. And Rudy came from nothing, his parents immigrating from Mexico. I wonder if any of his siblings were also as motivated and successful. If he was the only one, then it could probably be attributed largely to what running taught him.
Larry Dickman wrote:
I met Rudy when he was in law school at Indiana University. In fact, I introduced him to his future wife, Trish Eiting, who was a high jumper on the team. Rudy trained with the team some as he was preparing for his New York marathon. He was an absolute legend in the state, and I think every distance runner on the team could only stare at him when he ran with us. Totally friendly, likable, humble, modest guy. What I remember most about him is the weird-ass Nike shoes that he wore. I'm not sure how many runners Nike did this for, but they made shoes specifically for him. You couldn't find anything like them in the stores. Odd designs, bright colors. I remember him mentioning he would probably never take the bar exam and that he would probably go back and immediately work for Nike after he graduated law school, which he did. He rose through the ranks at Nike, and I believe he became one of the company's board members. I think he's also been on the governing board at OU. He also started a company called SPARQ, which was sort of an athletic fitness test for athletes. He would later sell the company to Nike.
I'm pretty sure Rudy wore an adidas kit in that NY race.
Yes Adidas at NYC 1983.
Plenty of pics out there too.
Wejo, do you really know that little about the history of the sport?
http://www.juanjosemartinez.com.mx/images/Chapa_tibaduiza.jpgAdidios wrote:
I'm pretty sure Rudy wore an adidas kit in that NY race.
A nice Chapa wrote:
Chapa succumbed to chronic injuries. I remember a short lived comeback attempt in the mid 80s.
Dillinger ruined people
chappa was the most talented of them all
That high school training was pure Lydiard. That picture at NYC is amazing. You can see the strength and speed he possessed. One of all the all-time greats.
yesstiles wrote:
RJC2010 wrote:
I ran at Hammond in 75-76 for Coach Candiano, who asked me to go out for cross country after I ran a 9:03 for 1.5 miles at PE one day... I just marveled at what Rudy, Cary and Tim were doing. Rudy would routinely run home from meets, even if they were 10+miles away. Very un-assuming, sort of the antithesis of Pinkowski. Tim was the "Hippy" free thinker of the bunch - his twin brother Tom was a very good wrestler. Tim passed away a few years ago, sadly. I think RUdy is still in Oregon working for Nike(?), and Pink is the RD for the Chicago Marathon. Great memories..!
More stories please! What was Candiano like? How did he get 3 kids to accept and handle such crazy training? Any details surrounding Rudy's epic 28:32 that year? How did he avoid injuries running with such a workload? What was the rest of the team like and how did they train?
I talked to Dan's wife years ago in her classroom at Hammond High and she seemed to relay that it was all a bunch of craziness that was bound to implode. Did Candiano leave after Rudy graduated?
And what an unlikely place - Hammond High. Industrial town in the shadow of Chicago, but not a part of it. No track at the high school(!) and no welcoming training sites.
I trained with Rudy for one year, his senior, my Sophomore. I was just starting with the sport. He never seemed to let all the attention and his obvious gifts get to his head. He had a great family and good parents. We did crazy training, we ran twice a day. Mornings were laps in Maywood park. And then we’d train after school. For me, having never been trained anywhere else, this was normal. He had a beautiful side, and very much a toe runner. I remember arriving at Maywood on a snowy morning, and initially thinking I was the first there. And then I saw these tiny little local circles in the snow, they were his foot steps. He would get shoes from Nike even in High school. The first pair of LD 1000’s and Vainquer spikes I saw were ones that Nike had mild to him before the Drake relays. They were space ag looking. He handed me a pair of racing flats to wear at my first indoor meet. A pair of Oregon waffles. He asked my my shoe size, and since we were the same, he just handed them to me. That was the kind of guy he is. Candiano left after Rudy graduated. He had found a job as an AD at another school and I imagined it paid more. I occasionally ran with Pinkowski and Keough when they would come home from college. I even ran a few road races back in the late 70’s with Carey. All three were really nice guys. Different personalities but nice guys
