Shelby Houlihan blocked Laura Muir after coming around the final bend.

I like Brenda, but her style of running is just so disruptive in a pack. You just know she is going to trip someone, or she is going to fall.

Now that she is going to be racing at 5000m, where the packs are going to be bigger and tighter, expect to see some trips and stumbles when she is racing.

All that Shelby did was pass her. You are trying to assign some deeper tactical significance to this move, and there simply is none. When you say that she “came in instead of just staying where she was”, you are simply using a lot words to say that she passed her. Staying where she was=not passing. Moving in=passing.

no block. wrote:

Get outta here- I've never seen so much space for someone to make a move in a 1500m. She had plenty of space to move. She drops her head with 50m to go and her form goes to s*** when she realizes she doesn't have the extra gear to go.

Exactly. It's also May. Good running for so early. At least Muir didn't lose to some smiling, happy go lucky Epopians etc. who are confident in officials letting them get away with doping.

Is the OP implying that Shelby:

A) illegally impeded Muir and should be DQ'd?

or

B) Muir should have won but didn't due to good tactics / bad tactics?

A: I don't see any argument in favor. SH had a clear lane in front of her and went for it.

B: You could argue that LM could/should have won, but tactics are a huge part of racing! Who would watch if they just ran time trials or kept to lanes the whole race?

Another swing and miss from Scorpion.

goulash wrote:

Another swing and miss from Scorpion.

I think Scorpion is either Rojo, or someone influenced by Rojo.

Jefe in the CO wrote:

I think Scorpion is either Rojo, or someone influenced by Rojo.

Laura Muir wins if Yohan Blake doesn't flinch.

FormerTree wrote:

Is the OP implying that Shelby:

A) illegally impeded Muir and should be DQ'd?

or

B) Muir should have won but didn't due to good tactics / bad tactics?

A: I don't see any argument in favor. SH had a clear lane in front of her and went for it.

B: You could argue that LM could/should have won, but tactics are a huge part of racing! Who would watch if they just ran time trials or kept to lanes the whole race?

No. There was nothing illegal about Shelby's move. I was complimenting her on the tactic, which I don't think was actually a tactic, but it's just how things turned out.

That passing closed off the space, because at one point there was three runner wall of shelby, simpson and the other runner. Laura had no choice but to go around, no chance of a STRAIGHT kick

If it were shelby passing on the inside with laura on the outside, and a straight clear path, laura would have kicked to the win.

Translation: Runner passes other runner in tight finish, wins race.

Revolutionary stuff.

Verry UNPC wrote:

no block. wrote:

Get outta here- I've never seen so much space for someone to make a move in a 1500m. She had plenty of space to move. She drops her head with 50m to go and her form goes to s*** when she realizes she doesn't have the extra gear to go.

Exactly. It's also May. Good running for so early. At least Muir didn't lose to some smiling, happy go lucky Epopians etc. who are confident in officials letting them get away with doping.

i generally agree with you based on the optics of it all. BUT, you have ZERO proof that Houlihan isn't doping. So, she could be just as doped as the Ethiopians who you have no proof on either. She's on Jager's team who has suspicious blood levels so nothing is for sure. silent, secretive coach.......don't be so certain just becauses she's a nice white girl

If I was you, I'd try to be objective publicly, because you come off as a biased idiot just touting opinions anonymously on a distance running forum

Scorpion_runner wrote:

No. There was nothing illegal about Shelby's move. I was complimenting her on the tactic, which I don't think was actually a tactic, but it's just how things turned out.

That passing closed off the space, because at one point there was three runner wall of shelby, simpson and the other runner. Laura had no choice but to go around, no chance of a STRAIGHT kick

If it were shelby passing on the inside with laura on the outside, and a straight clear path, laura would have kicked to the win.

You're probably right that Muir would have won if she were better positioned. Shelby's one mistake - which obviously didn't cost her - was how far back she was with 300m to go. She needed everything to play out perfectly, which of course it did. If it had been a 3 person race - Simpson, Muir, Houlihan - at the bell, the results may well have been exactly the same.

Jefe in the CO wrote:

goulash wrote:

Another swing and miss from Scorpion.

I think Scorpion is either Rojo, or someone influenced by Rojo.

Most of the prominent trolls here are Rojo. It's all he does all day.

FormerTree wrote:

Shelby's one mistake - which obviously didn't cost her - was how far back she was with 300m to go.

I'm not convinced that was mistake. If she'd been farther up, she might not have had enough left in the tank for a big kick.

I think we need to see a few more races before we'll know whether Houlihan just got lucky at Pre, or whether her training, physical and mental, finally clicked in at the same time. I sure hope it's the latter, but who knows? There are enough examples of people who had one magical race at Pre that we need to be careful.

It's worse than that wrote:

Most of the prominent trolls here are Rojo. It's all he does all day.

Are there any trolls here whose grammar and spelling are as anywhere near as bad as Rojos?

So basically we all agree Laura Muir ran the last 200 very bad tactically and Shelby Houlihan ran very well. Cool. /Thread.

Probably impossible wrote:

It's worse than that wrote:

Most of the prominent trolls here are Rojo. It's all he does all day.

Are there any trolls here whose grammar and spelling are as anywhere near as bad as Rojos?

At least one.

Right? wrote:

So basically we all agree Laura Muir ran the last 200 very bad tactically and Shelby Houlihan ran very well. Cool. /Thread.

This is true....

Houlihan was wide of Muir the whole time. I don't follow the original post. Muir is never blocked one bit. Eventually she's gaining on Barringer and Arafi, and has to move out, but that was after Houlihan blew by her. Muir never had to cut her stride, slow down, etc. nor does she ever show any surge that suggests tactics limited her ability to "go" earlier. Outside of maybe a couple of meters at the end, Houlihan is running as fast or faster than Muir the entire home stretch.

The op is way off base.

Houlihan was pulling away from Muir to the finish.