ohyesit'sgood wrote:
I have my doubts. wrote:
"Dont eat,meet, drink booze."
no food, no socializing, no beer.
average person won't last 2 weeks on that diet
no thanks
Yes please. Been on it for the last four years. Health is the default state of humans, not sickness.
you haven't eaten or socialized in 4 years?
thats what you call health?! being dead?
almostsbs wrote:
Shoebacca wrote:
It's one thing to concede that you like the taste of unhealthy foods or that you only care so much about your health, but it's another thing to try and discredit the information just because you want to feel better about your choice to eat unhealthy foods.
Most reasonable people aren't going to give up a few vices if it's worth a 1% savings on longevity, but that's not really how the averaged statistics work. You could be the guy whose cells start dividing malignantly 20 years before it should have been a real threat all because of some freak thing that happened after loading up on a food that was colored brown using caramel coloring (carcinogen). You could be the person who gets dementia super early because the monosodium glutamate in your Doritos eeked into your bloodstream to the brain and ran wild. Or you could be the totally healthy guy who just has one cell randomly go haywire and it's curtains. But if you pay attention to health and improve your odds you could see real improvement; this would be particularly observable across a large public health demographic and is why parts of Europe are seeing improved health outcomes. Pockets of should-be-educated Americans are seeing worse health outcomes precisely because they read articles like these and try to deny the science or minimalize the impact.
All that typing and you have no clue what you are talking about.. cooking oil does not create transfats (oil either has trans fats or it does not). Transfats were created in a lab to make food "shelf stable". You can't add hydrogen atoms to fat during cooking... don't believe me google it.
Cooking oils bring in their own transfats: 0.5-4.6% off the shelf. In addition, they produce toxic aldehydes and other oxidation by-products, and perhaps worst of all is the inflammatory nature of high omega-6 PUFAs.
Metabolic syndrome is the most lethal disease promoter in modern societies, and it is driven by processed sugar, starches and vegetable oils.
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/6-reasons-why-vegetable-oils-are-toxic#section7https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1745-4522.1994.tb00244.xThis is precisely why I do not eat meat or any animal products.
It’s so easy to just push away this problem because meat is something most people have enjoyed their entire life. The drawbacks are not immediate and, as a result, difficult to acknowledge. This is a fatal flaw of Americans. They seek out immediate benefits and do not give attention to long-term problems.
For example, you can drive 100 miles and not feel the Earth warming from it, so you dont give it much thought. But the cumulative effect of billions of people contributing greenhouse gas emissions is what is causing an increasing rate of global warming.
Lots of us have been affected by cancer in some way, either in our relatives or personally. Americans care too much about food. Giving up meat is a small cost compared to the loss of many years of life.
ninjarunner wrote:
This is precisely why I do not eat meat or any animal products.
It’s so easy to just push away this problem because meat is something most people have enjoyed their entire life. The drawbacks are not immediate and, as a result, difficult to acknowledge. This is a fatal flaw of Americans. They seek out immediate benefits and do not give attention to long-term problems.
For example, you can drive 100 miles and not feel the Earth warming from it, so you dont give it much thought. But the cumulative effect of billions of people contributing greenhouse gas emissions is what is causing an increasing rate of global warming.
Lots of us have been affected by cancer in some way, either in our relatives or personally. Americans care too much about food. Giving up meat is a small cost compared to the loss of many years of life.
Soy is far worse for you, and the planet, than pastured red meat. You are on a fool's errand.
I've given up booze, but there's no way I will give up beating meat.
[quote]rojo wrote:
What are the odds of getting these cancers for everyone and what are the odds if I follow this advice. If someone has a 1 in a 800 chance that will go to 1 in 1000, people might want to take their chances. If it's 1 3 to 1 in 5 then it's another story.
You do realize that 1 in 1,000 is less than 1 in 800 and that 1 in 3 is less than 1 in 5?
Ivy league?
Hey Ms. Soy wrote:
ninjarunner wrote:
This is precisely why I do not eat meat or any animal products.
It’s so easy to just push away this problem because meat is something most people have enjoyed their entire life. The drawbacks are not immediate and, as a result, difficult to acknowledge. This is a fatal flaw of Americans. They seek out immediate benefits and do not give attention to long-term problems.
For example, you can drive 100 miles and not feel the Earth warming from it, so you dont give it much thought. But the cumulative effect of billions of people contributing greenhouse gas emissions is what is causing an increasing rate of global warming.
Lots of us have been affected by cancer in some way, either in our relatives or personally. Americans care too much about food. Giving up meat is a small cost compared to the loss of many years of life.
Soy is far worse for you, and the planet, than pastured red meat. You are on a fool's errand.
I don’t eat soy either.
ninjarunner wrote:
Hey Ms. Soy wrote:
Soy is far worse for you, and the planet, than pastured red meat. You are on a fool's errand.
I don’t eat soy either.
So you are a snowfarian...you live off snowflakes that you catch with your tongue?
rojo wrote:
"Even small amounts of processed meats and booze increase the risk of a host of cancers outlined in World Cancer Research Fund (WCRF) guidelines updated every decade...
Brits have been told to banish favourites such as ham, burgers and hot dogs from their diets by experts who say they are a direct cause of bowel cancer....
The WCRF found boozing is directly linked to increased risk of six cancers and for the first time recommended sticking to water or unsweetened drinks."
https://www.mirror.co.uk/lifestyle/health/bad-news-sausage-bacon-booze-12585028I hate articles like that - with no context. What are the odds of getting these cancers for everyone and what are the odds if I follow this advice. If someone has a 1 in a 800 chance that will go to 1 in 1000, people might want to take their chances. If it's 1 3 to 1 in 5 then it's another story.
Propaganda. Next they'll be telling you halal meats are better if you need to eat meat, etc. A bunch of garbage served up from the NWO crowd (the usual suspects) in roundabout fashion. Tell the Myron behind the article that the day of the lamppost is in fact on the horizon.
Yet George Burns lived to be 105
Best fitness advice right there.
Obsession with longevity and the relative healthiness of food and drink are unhealthy and poorly considered. Nobody gets out of this thing alive and the body's epigenetic complexity and external contextual factors make it absolutely impossible to predict, or to control, one's fate. Live your life. You'll be old, if you're lucky, before you know it. You'll then be gone and nobody will even remember you were here just a few years after your gone.
Life is a Carcinogen wrote:
OLD SMTC SOB wrote:
[quote]rojo wrote:
https://www.pritikin.com/your-health/health-benefits/reduce-cancer-risk.htmlAnd how did Pritikin die? Suicide at 69 due to despair of multiple cancers, after decades of eating a tasteless, miserable diet in the name of "longevity". Meanwhile Jeanne Calment was eating eggs and chocolate, drinking wine and smoking on her way through a life of 122 years.
Diets too low in fat and cholesterol have higher mortality due to cancer. A lot of current vegans and vegetarians are going to get a nasty surprise when they find out they have been duped into "plant-based" propaganda, and don't outlive their parents' "unhealthy" lifespan.
And there are also people that smoke all their lives and never get lung cancer. And contrary to popular belief, people who eat a plant based diet and meat sparingly do not get cancer at higher rates than those who don't. In fact, the opposite appears to be true, in particular breast, and colon cancer. There are several studies on the Pritikin website that one can review to get a broad based understanding of the relationship. Genetics plays a big role but even if you're not a genetically endowed, one can mitigate the onset of disease by modification of known risk factors for said disease and mitigate the progression if you already have it. Particularly the lifestyle related ones. Pritikin had been in remission from a very aggressive form of Leukemia for over 25 years which at the time was unheard of. Whether his diet and exercise habits played a role is uncertain but it would not surprise me. He was also diagnosed with severe CAD in his 40's, which is when he began researching diet and other lifestyle modification to mitigate his risk and disease progression. The result was the Pritikin Program. At autopsy his coronary arteries were completely clear, the results of which were published in the New England Journal of Medicine. He did in fact, commit suicide following a recurrence of his Leukemia. He checked himself into a hospital in Albany NY and ended up in kidney failure, on dialysis, and in extreme pain. He asked his wife to get him a drink, when she left the room he slit the arteries in both antecubital spaces and bled out. Despite his method of dying, the program has been a huge success, helping thousands of people over the years mitigate their risk of the development of cardiovascular diseases, certain forms of cancer, diabetes and hypertension, and while not in Santa Monica anymore, is still in existence.
Da fuq is meet (as a noun) ?
Did rojo mispell meat on purpose?
456 wrote:
Yet George Burns lived to be 105
Barely made 100.
I've heard that meetings are the biggest cause of cancer. We should stay in our basements literally locked up, and don't meet anyone.