Mt. Sac refuses to rebid for 2020 Trials: Why would we consider bidding for them again when they just took it away from us?

They took the meet away from Mt SAC because they were concerned the stadium wouldn't be finished on time. Eugene has not even started to build their stadium yet, and there appears to be bad blood right now between the powers that be at USATF and Eugene (Vin's ousting, which was preceded by a year of BOD drama over conflict of interest)

All of these conspiracy theories that this is all a plot to move the meet back to Eugene are off base.

TrackTown bid on the Trials last year. If they had won, there would have been a different timeline for stadium construction. Yes, they still say they can have a workable facility in time for the Trials, but this is far from an ideal situation.

If the Nike overlords were willing to do nefarious things to ensure the Trials were in Eugene, it would have made way more sense (and cost less money) to pull their strings on the Board last summer with the original bids. It would not make sense for them to fund shill lawsuits and do it this way. Also, I believe both of the lawsuits were already filed before the bid presentations last summer.

My guess is that the Trials end up in Sacramento, or maybe Drake if they enter the race, and that USATF ends up spending more money than they would have if they had stuck with Mt SAC (which totally will be finished in time).

polevaultpower wrote:

All of these conspiracy theories that this is all a plot to move the meet back to Eugene are off base.

If the Nike overlords were willing to do nefarious things to ensure the Trials were in Eugene, it would have made way more sense (and cost less money) to pull their strings on the Board last summer with the original bids. It would not make sense for them to fund shill lawsuits and do it this way. Also, I believe both of the lawsuits were already filed before the bid presentations last summer.

My guess is that the Trials end up in Sacramento, or maybe Drake if they enter the race, and that USATF ends up spending more money than they would have if they had stuck with Mt SAC (which totally will be finished in time).

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Now that SCOTUS has paved the way for sports betting all across this country, I would be willing to wager any amount of money that Nike, I mean Eugene, gets the 2020 Olympic Trials. It is clearly a no brainer! Money talks, and Nike is ruthless!

down with nike wrote:

If it goes to Eugene I will seriously burn all of my nikes. It will be the last straw.

Why not just wear them in the rain?

Shoebacca wrote:

But who is really to blame for this? Nike? A few local rabble rousers? Local rabble rousers paid by outsiders?

Why do people look for conspiracies? The simple truth is that the bond measure that citizens passed identified "bleacher renovations" at Mt SAC not an $80 MM stadium upgrade. When taxpayers leaned of the project they simply said this is not what we voted for.

This is a justifiable complaint.

MT. Sac is ON.

they should and will just re accept Mc Sac. saying that we were led to believe that there were issues on concern which have been resolved.

Congrats to Me Tac.

congrats to Mt. Sac. .. see you there BroJos et.al.

The Truf wrote:

Shoebacca wrote:

But who is really to blame for this? Nike? A few local rabble rousers? Local rabble rousers paid by outsiders?

Why do people look for conspiracies? The simple truth is that the bond measure that citizens passed identified "bleacher renovations" at Mt SAC not an $80 MM stadium upgrade. When taxpayers leaned of the project they simply said this is not what we voted for.

This is a justifiable complaint.

Not really. The bond language was very general. If people don't want to be surprised by the specific uses to which funding is put, then they can vote down any bond measures that don't have specific limiting language.

When we look back on 2018 the Timeline will be

1 USATF Suspends Vin Lanana

2 USATF does Indian-Giver and takes 2020 OT from Mt Sac

3 USATF gives 2020 OT to Track Town USA

4 USATF Reappoints Vin Lanana

5 Max resigns from USATF with very generous/lucrative buyout terms

Don't worry. Southern California has 25 million people (nearly as populous as the entire state of Texas). Mt Sac has enough meets lined up for the new stadium. Stay tuned.

rojo wrote:

Where might it end up besides Eugene? I was looking forward to going to a big meet not in Eugene.

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Why were you, necessarily, looking forward to attending a big meet somewhere other than Eugene? There are plenty of big meets held in various places around the world that you can attend, but when it comes to meets on US Soil those held at Hayward are superior by most standards of measurement.

To be fair, I have only attended the trials when they were in Eugene but the iconic feel of the stadium (obviously going to change some) and, more importantly, the atmosphere created by the locals and the history is incredible.

I understand the wariness that exists when it comes to seemingly shady business between USATF, Nike and Oregon. I hope (and somewhat doubt) that things are on the up and up. There is no question that it is kind of disappointing that a shadow of suspicion hangs over the whole thing. All in all, however, I think the meet experience at Hayward is second to none in the US.

There is an argument to be made that other venues will never be able to create like-experiences if not given the chance, so from that standpoint I can see wanting the meet to be held somewhere else.

Certainly the FBI should investigate how Mt Sac was cheated by USATF, UWT, City of Walnut, Track Town USA, Lananna, Siegal, etc. and file charges if warranted under the law.

No worries. Mt Sac is the World'#1 T&F venue with more meets, kids, masters, college athletes competing each year than at any other field and track venue on the Planet Earth. The new Mt Sac stadium will expand on the tradition of the yearly Mt Sac Relays the World's largest relays and the #1 world destination for elite track and field.