Mt. Sac refuses to rebid for 2020 Trials: Why would we consider bidding for them again when they just took it away from us?

Oh wonderful.

So all the great SoCal high school programs who have been kicked away from their famous xc course for construction for 3 years continue to get the shaft for no good reason.

Can't say I blame them, but I'm bummed. My wife and I used to live in Los Angeles, and I have fond memories of running at Sac. We were going to go for the whole thing. (Well, she was going to go to the meet for a couple days and then spend a lot of time catching up with friends in the area.) Can't imagine she'll have any interest in going to Sacramento or Eugene.

If it goes to Eugene I will seriously burn all of my nikes. It will be the last straw.

But who is really to blame for this? Nike? A few local rabble rousers? Local rabble rousers paid by outsiders?

I may call the spokesperson. The reason why you would bid would be the same reason you bid in the first place - because you want to host the trials.

The only reason why you wouldn't bid in my opinion is as follows:

1) You don't think you'd win as you think the Nike/Eugene fix is in.

2) You don't think you'll win as the construction protests are actually legitimate.

I want to know which it was. #1 or #2.

down with nike wrote:

If it goes to Eugene I will seriously burn all of my nikes. It will be the last straw.

Yes. The lawsuit against the new stadium was dropped AFTER the bidding was reopened. It certainly smells like the "local" lawsuit was funded by someone from Eugene.

rojo wrote:

I may call the spokesperson. The reason why you would bid would be the same reason you bid in the first place - because you want to host the trials.

The only reason why you wouldn't bid in my opinion is as follows:

1) You don't think you'd win as you think the Nike/Eugene fix is in.

2) You don't think you'll win as the construction protests are actually legitimate.

I want to know which it was. #1 or #2.

Also look into the lawsuit that was conveniently dropped after bidding was reopened. Suddenly there was no local interest in stopping the stadium project from going forward.

rojo wrote:

I may call the spokesperson. The reason why you would bid would be the same reason you bid in the first place - because you want to host the trials.

The only reason why you wouldn't bid in my opinion is as follows:

1) You don't think you'd win as you think the Nike/Eugene fix is in.

2) You don't think you'll win as the construction protests are actually legitimate.

I want to know which it was. #1 or #2.

3) Your group that spent countless hours putting together a bid, winning the bid, and fundraising/planning for an upgraded facility, is pissed that it was taken away for a stupid reason, and wants a modicum of satisfaction in saying no to the idiots in charge.

Shoebacca wrote:

But who is really to blame for this? Nike? A few local rabble rousers? Local rabble rousers paid by outsiders?

I blame Big Pharm!

No, wait..Big Oil!

No, no wait...Trump!

No, no, no wait...Obama!

No, no, no wait...Big banking!

Greenpeace? PETA? #MeToo Movement?

MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:

Shoebacca wrote:

But who is really to blame for this? Nike? A few local rabble rousers? Local rabble rousers paid by outsiders?

I blame Big Pharm!

No, wait..Big Oil!

No, no wait...Trump!

No, no, no wait...Obama!

No, no, no wait...Big banking!

Greenpeace? PETA? #MeToo Movement?

You know in your heart is was George W. Bush's fault all along.

rojo wrote:

Where might it end up besides Eugene? I was looking forward to going to a big meet not in Eugene.

In response to a query Wednesday, Mt. SAC spokeswoman Jill Dolan said the school was not re-entering the Trials race, adding later via email: “Why would we consider bidding for them again when they just took it away from us?”

https://timesofsandiego.com/sports/2018/05/23/mt-sac-wont-bid-for-2020-olympic-trials-ending-silence-uncertainty/

What we have here is classic case of a not so above board group that bid Mt Sac with little knowledge of what they were up against in a fly by the seat of their pants approach. No sign off by the city or appropriate parties prior.

They clearly didn't have the funds in place for the bid and now without the city clearance could get monies secured for a project that won't happen to meet the trans deadline.

Would love to know who got paid what in the bidding process to allow an unvetted bid to win the bid.

Reminds me a little of marathon trials bid to LA which turned into a fiasco showing them to be unqualified to host the event of this caliber.

Corruption at its best.

Mt Sac did not require City approval. The California State Architect's Office has that control.

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

MeHereYouWhere?! wrote:

I blame Big Pharm!

No, wait..Big Oil!

No, no wait...Trump!

No, no, no wait...Obama!

No, no, no wait...Big banking!

Greenpeace? PETA? #MeToo Movement?

You know in your heart is was George W. Bush's fault all along.

Nope, clearly Dave Smith.

They won't rebid for the same reason most people don't run for office: It's a waste of money when you know you aren't going to win.

retretter wrote:

Oh wonderful.

So all the great SoCal high school programs who have been kicked away from their famous xc course for construction for 3 years continue to get the shaft for no good reason.

Trust me many CA coaches are glad the source in gone!!!

What was USATF's official statement about why they took away the trials in the first place?

I wouldn't want to put a lot of effort into another bid if it's just going to get taken away again.

The same reason that NYRR will never bid on an OLYMPIC Trials again. The same reason that BAA will never bid on an Olypic trials again.

USATF is a nightmare to work with. The Mt SAC group was slowly figuring this out. USATF pulling out was a blessing and Mt. SAC knows it. They lucked out.

Ca-Coach 99 wrote:

retretter wrote:

Oh wonderful.

So all the great SoCal high school programs who have been kicked away from their famous xc course for construction for 3 years continue to get the shaft for no good reason.

Trust me many CA coaches are glad the source in gone!!!

The Source??

As someone who has never been to a big time track event and has been considering going to the next trials, I would rather them be at Hayward Field. Despite all the nike influence, it is still the most iconic and recognizable track in the country, and it is the place I want to visit.