Just noticed an even better shoe for minimalist forefoot running than all the above:
http://aeishoes.com/index.html
The first shoe that I've seen thats actually designed specifically for forefoot running!
Just noticed an even better shoe for minimalist forefoot running than all the above:
http://aeishoes.com/index.html
The first shoe that I've seen thats actually designed specifically for forefoot running!
Thanks, those are intriguing.
hey has anyone tried the dragons? are they light?
This should go under the Trainer Catagory
Nike Vengeance
Any links or pics of the Kilkenneys'? The Saucony site doesn't have them.
They appear to be coming out in Augest.
I'm a minimalist runner all the way!
The beauty about running in these throw back replicas is the price and the simplicity. Why buy flats with all that motion control junk and a high heel to toe ratio for 80 bucks plus.
Limber Up Moscow - very durable shoe. Takes a couple weeks to break them in (they are slightly stiff at first), but once they form to your foot, your ready to roll for a LOT of miles. So far I've put in damn near 1200 miles in these bad boys, many of which were 22 plus mile long runs. I've never had a blister or an injury with these shoes.
H Street - it seems to be the most popular of minimalist shoes because it forms to your foot like a glove providing nothing more than a thin piece of rubber to protect your foot from getting ripped up on the roads (Although the barefoot runner dude seems to do just fine, I'm not quite ready for that). The negative about these is that if you have a wide foot like me the outside of the shoe that runs alongside the outside of your foot at precisely the point where the upper meets the sole blows out for me around 300 - 500 miles. I continue to run in them even with the blown out side. I don't really notice the difference except for dirt gets in more easily when I'm on trails.
The reason I like combining a more substantial simple shoe like the limber up with a true minimalist shoe like the H Street is to rest my achilles and calf. It is very important to switch off between a more substantial trainer, a minimal shoe, and some barefoot running while you are in the transition period from modern running shoes to minimal shoes. Your calves will not be used to the extra stretch and push off and you will likely be REALLY sore. Take the transition slow and listen to your body. I'm just about 2 years in to minimal shoes and my feet are stronger, and my push off is a lot better.
Minimalism rules!
I'm a minimalist runner all the way!
The beauty about running in these throw back replicas is the price and the simplicity. Why buy flats with all that motion control junk and a high heel to toe ratio for 80 bucks plus.
Limber Up Moscow - very durable shoe. Takes a couple weeks to break them in (they are slightly stiff at first), but once they form to your foot, your ready to roll for a LOT of miles. So far I've put in damn near 1200 miles in these bad boys, many of which were 22 plus mile long runs. I've never had a blister or an injury with these shoes.
H Street - it seems to be the most popular of minimalist shoes because it forms to your foot like a glove providing nothing more than a thin piece of rubber to protect your foot from getting ripped up on the roads (Although the barefoot runner dude seems to do just fine, I'm not quite ready for that). The negative about these is that if you have a wide foot like me the outside of the shoe that runs alongside the outside of your foot at precisely the point where the upper meets the sole blows out for me around 300 - 500 miles. I continue to run in them even with the blown out side. I don't really notice the difference except for dirt gets in more easily when I'm on trails.
The reason I like combining a more substantial simple shoe like the limber up with a true minimalist shoe like the H Street is to rest my achilles and calf. It is very important to switch off between a more substantial trainer, a minimal shoe, and some barefoot running while you are in the transition period from modern running shoes to minimal shoes. Your calves will not be used to the extra stretch and push off and you will likely be REALLY sore. Take the transition slow and listen to your body. I'm just about 2 years in to minimal shoes and my feet are stronger, and my push off is a lot better.
Minimalism rules!
Well put. What is the weight of the Moscows?
I got to wear-test these shoes this spring, and they let me keep them. Very nice flats, but I don't know if they're quite as light as people have made them out to be on here. Still though, a great shoe to train and race in.
The Dragons are light enough, but there are lighter shoes out there. I really like them.
Dufur,
If you take out the insole that comes with the Moscow Limber Up and put a Spenco in, you'll have a flexible shoe straight away.
Dufur wrote:
I'm a minimalist runner all the way!
The beauty about running in these throw back replicas is the price and the simplicity. Why buy flats with all that motion control junk and a high heel to toe ratio for 80 bucks plus.
Limber Up Moscow - very durable shoe. Takes a couple weeks to break them in (they are slightly stiff at first), but once they form to your foot, your ready to roll for a LOT of miles. So far I've put in damn near 1200 miles in these bad boys, many of which were 22 plus mile long runs. I've never had a blister or an injury with these shoes.
H Street - it seems to be the most popular of minimalist shoes because it forms to your foot like a glove providing nothing more than a thin piece of rubber to protect your foot from getting ripped up on the roads (Although the barefoot runner dude seems to do just fine, I'm not quite ready for that). The negative about these is that if you have a wide foot like me the outside of the shoe that runs alongside the outside of your foot at precisely the point where the upper meets the sole blows out for me around 300 - 500 miles. I continue to run in them even with the blown out side. I don't really notice the difference except for dirt gets in more easily when I'm on trails.
The reason I like combining a more substantial simple shoe like the limber up with a true minimalist shoe like the H Street is to rest my achilles and calf. It is very important to switch off between a more substantial trainer, a minimal shoe, and some barefoot running while you are in the transition period from modern running shoes to minimal shoes. Your calves will not be used to the extra stretch and push off and you will likely be REALLY sore. Take the transition slow and listen to your body. I'm just about 2 years in to minimal shoes and my feet are stronger, and my push off is a lot better.
Minimalism rules!
Dufur-
Do you wear socks with the limber up moscow's? I've gone without and my feet sweat and slip big time.
What did you do to get to be a wear-tester?
Hey guys I was just surfing the net for some minimalist shoes and this was the biggest help I could find. Thank you all.
Two questions - these are not meant to be smartass - I genuinely want to know:
A: How FAST are you minimalist guys? I don't know any sub 15:00 guys who even train in flats, much less these minimalist things. The Kenyans I know are always decked out in full gear and even have heavy trainers.
B: If part of the minimalist appeal is cheapness, why not just get on Eastbay and buy whatever flat or spike they have on sale - they have lots of stuff for like $19. Why not a spikeless Cross spike like a Waffle Racer if you don't want any cushion. They have tons of stuff for under $30.00.
I've been training and racing in the Nike Streak Vapor for a couple of months now, and after some minor achilles soreness, it's working out very well. Anyone have recommendations for xc flats? I'm in California and it doesn't usually start raining here until XC is practically over, so I don't need spikes. I would just race in the Streak Vapors but they've got a very low profile tread, and I'd rather have something more aggressive for the dirt.
A. I've never been fast at any distance longer than 800 because I always got injured when I tried to increase mileage. One of the reasons fast people are fast is because they don't get injured easily, meaning that they probably can deal with running in trainers. However, I've never met a sub 15 guy who didn't wear flats or spikes for workouts (which gives you a lot of the benefit).
B. I think a lot of us do buy our shoes on sale at eastbay. However, training in spikless xc shoes like the waffle is a different world from just wearing trainer-derived flats. I'm not convinced that everyone is capable of doing real mileage in xc spikes on concrete.
I have recently switched to training in flats and it has pros and cons. The tradeoffs between cushioning (as a larger runner) and the obvious benefits of a low heel and foot flexion are difficulty to sort out. I found my back and groin hurts less and flats are definitely superior when running flat courses, but my quads get sore in flats on couses with alot of downhill. I definitely feel better climbing and don't feel as unstable.