The USA will inevitably break up, how will it look?

This is making my head hurt. Would you consider trying out the word "residents" ? Maybe just take it for a spin and see how it feels?

Dog Trainer Elite wrote:

Simple fix. Just restrict the federal government's responsibilities to national defense, foreign relations, regulation of interstate commerce, and upholding the rights and protections of individual citizens.

Eliminate federal subsidies and equalization funding. Force the states to be self sufficient but, allow them to fully self govern within the confines of the federal constitution. Then, competition amongst the states will determine where people live, where corporations locate, and where wealth is concentrated.

States with a good balance of taxation, pragmatic governance, and smart legislative priorities will do well. States that don't sufficiently fund themselves, fail to maintain infrastructure or schools, and focus on grandstanding and virtue signaling will suffer the consequences.

No need to break up but, the lack of federal bailout money would force a moderation of state and local policies as those politicians will be more accountable to their constituents.

Sounds like a libertarian concept that understands the situation the Founding Fathers tried to implement.

The Civil War eroded States Rights. Time to restore them!

Armstronglivs wrote:

scratching each other's backs wrote:

Sounds like a libertarian concept that understands the situation the Founding Fathers tried to implement.

The Civil War eroded States Rights. Time to restore them!

The Civil War ended slavery. You want to restore that?

Sounds more like something liberals would do. I am no liberal.

scratching each other's backs wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

The Civil War ended slavery. You want to restore that?

Sounds more like something liberals would do. I am no liberal.

What? You think that liberal Americans in the 21st century want to legalize ownership of human beings?

Thanks for acting as my copy editor. Maybe the staff fix it.

Texas, without Federal assistance would be a disaster. Pull out all those bases and people and associated businesses. We couldn't keep out lights on during six inches of snow. FEMA hurricane relief.

Remember, Texas became a state because we couldn't hack it on our own.

I wish I could get into Canada. Give me Vancouver over Austin anyday.

I always think it's cute when folks, especially here in Texas, don't think liberals own and know how to shoot guns.

DiscoGary wrote:

I don't think we will break up any time soon, but if we do it will be because of the fight over public money. Socialism is sold as a unifying Utopian paradise where no one has to worry about money. In reality it is corrosive force that divides people as they struggle to take money out of each others' wallet.

I would like to see the country split up because the hatred has grown beyond repair. If it did split, then there would have to be a population transfer of Liberals to one side and Conservatives to the other. That would be best. Who would the libertarians join?

The problem in America, as your post highlights, is education. Imbeciles blathering on about Socialism. Meanwhile the rest of the industrialized countries are happy as can be with universal health care and no school shootings.

I assume you're not taking social security and medicare when you retire?

uhhh guys? wrote:

scratching each other's backs wrote:

Sounds more like something liberals would do. I am no liberal.

What? You think that liberal Americans in the 21st century want to legalize ownership of human beings?

You mean like forcing individuals to take actions they oppose? Legalizing the death sentence of viable humans? Allowing and supporting various countries who rely on slavery for labor? Mandating human beings to follow your orders?

Looks like liberals DO want to legalize ownership of human beings.

there is a military factor2 wrote:

California broken up into three or five states seems like a more likely compromise than CA seceding entirely by the decision of CA solely or by agreement with the rest of U.S. Some Republican Californians would love it. If we look at a Six California map, Jefferson California, Northern California, Central California & South California would likely have majority Republican U.S. Congressmen & Republican governors with only Silicon Valley California & West California as majority Democratic states. Why would Democrats go along with Six California states? A three to five state solution is possible. If three California states, one majority Democrat, one majority Republican and a toss up state. If five California states, two majority Democrat, two majority Republican and one toss up state. California leaving as one huge state, no.

So you want to further gerrymander the nation? Nice.

This is Jim Kiler wrote:

https://www.thrillist.com/gear/50-us-states-as-independent-countries-california-texas-who-would-survive-as-nations

take a look at that list. the bottom half are majority red and the top (the good) half are nearly all democratic.