Everyone knows the USA is incredibly divided almost in half about politics. Unless something changes it seems inevitable that some states will eventually break of. We have heard of Cal exit and many claim Texas wants to leave whenever a democrat wins office. So basically how do you think the USA will end up? Personally I see The west coast, Wash, CA, OR forming their own liberal country. I think Texas will want to be on their own. I see the Great Plains states forming their own country stretching from Kansas to Idaho. The Great Plains may get Arizona, Utah and Nevada or these 3 will form their own country. I think Colorado and New Mexico will make a liberal country since they are on an island. I think the East is pretty clearly divided with the North east being democratic party they will make their own country and then the South east being republican will make their own. X factor is Florida may stay on it's own. Another X factor is Oklahoma if they will go Southeast or Great plains or join Texas. So what are your thoughts on which states will be the first to leave and what will the aftermath look like? Personally I think Texas or California will be the first to break off since they are the biggest and most powerful states.
I am basing these splits on the presidential elections since 1992.
https://www.270towin.com/historical-presidential-elections/
The USA will inevitably break up, how will it look?
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Would be pretty awesome.
The South would turn into a 3rd world country very quickly. Truly the cancer of our nation.
Texas would go solo and be fine.
Western states + California??? SWEET.
Mid west.
Northeast.
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Jerry Maguire wrote:
The South would turn into a 3rd world country very quickly. Truly the cancer of our nation.
Very racist statement. Take your racism elsewhere please. -
May want to check presidential election map by county and precinct. Quite a different picture.
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Just wait for the U.S. debt to make this country collapse. How I see it as far as the new nations:
California and Texas will go it own separate ways.
New England/North East will either combine and create a larger state. Or, have smaller nation states like they have in Europe. Lithuania as a example.
The south will probably form a confederate union.
Alaska will probably either go back to Russia or Canada.
The western states will probably form a confederation.
New Mexico and Arizona will probably go back to Mexico.
This will be Yugoslavia 2.0 -
Alistair Cookie wrote:
May want to check presidential election map by county and precinct. Quite a different picture.
Red counties and precincts are sparkly populated and mostly empty space. If your intent is to claim emptiness counts when dividing a country into parts, then epic failure on your part. That makes as much sense as basing a USA division by per-capita income. -
I think California will eventually be part of Mexico again. I don't really have any predictions beyond that. The rest of the Southwest will probably remain in the United States but it seems equitable that California will go to Mexico some time in the future. It just seems fair to me.
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Jerry Maguire wrote:
Texas would go solo and be fine.
Texas would be stupid to go solo. They need to team up Oklahoma, Arkansas and Louisiana. And maybe Kansas and Missouri. -
Jerry Maguire wrote:
Western states + California??? SWEET.
Baja California would love to join with a new Western States country. Mexico might let them go. British Columbia would like to join to get away from being dominated by French politicians in Eastern Canada. -
Jerry Maguire wrote:
Would be pretty awesome.
The South would turn into a 3rd world country very quickly. Truly the cancer of our nation.
Eh. They'd keep farming and be fine. Literally nothing would change. They don't like the fed anyways.
Jerry Maguire wrote:
Texas would go solo and be fine.
Yup. They have all the oil and a diverse landscape. Lush mountains, arid basins, deserts, humid coastal regions, rich soil for farming...
Jerry Maguire wrote:
Western states + California??? SWEET.
They'd have food. That's about it.
No federal aid to help with wildfires and earthquakes.
No energy resources (Hoover Dam can't power everything), no coal mines. I guess they do have tons of uranium underground, but no nuclear power stations to utilize it.
And Cali's insane debt would sink them pretty quick.
Out of all the areas to turn into a third world country the quickest, this would be it.
Jerry Maguire wrote:
Canada takes the Dakotas.
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the third world wrote:
Jerry Maguire wrote:
The South would turn into a 3rd world country very quickly. Truly the cancer of our nation.
Very racist statement. Take your racism elsewhere please.
Well historically the South is the most racist region in the USA and without the Feds to help I would see them progressing backwards -
Jerry Maguire wrote:
Would be pretty awesome.
The South would turn into a 3rd world country very quickly. Truly the cancer of our nation.
The bible thumping south is going to look like an episode of The Handmaid's Tale in 50 years;
good riddance to those retrograde cretins. -
In January 2011, Time magazine included Cascadia number eight on a list of "Top 10 Aspiring Nations"
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In terms of class, the nation has already broken up.
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With the trade embargo US Grant wanted Lincoln to put on south, sure 3rd world. That's what happened to Haiti. Were Haitians free before Ethiopians? Either way, Haitians were the first free blacks in Western Hemisphere. White Europeans wouldn't trade with Haitians. If south were their own nation and a strict trade embargo were placed on the faux Libertarians down there, south would turn into Mad Max in a year or two.
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A lot of built in weakness in the south wrote:
With the trade embargo US Grant wanted Lincoln to put on south, sure 3rd world. That's what happened to Haiti. Were Haitians free before Ethiopians? Either way, Haitians were the first free blacks in Western Hemisphere. White Europeans wouldn't trade with Haitians. If south were their own nation and a strict trade embargo were placed on the faux Libertarians down there, south would turn into Mad Max in a year or two.
Mad Max in swamp boats (airfan powdered, flat-bottom, boats). And Southern Drraaawwwl rather than in Aussie. -
You are all dingles. The benefits of staying together far outweighs the benefits of breaking up.
Do you not know they’d have to make trade agreements with every nations? Interstate commerce would cease to exist for one example. And there’s a million other issues to talk about here. The USA is not breaking up. -
During his second term as President Trump will annex Mexico thus saving cost of border wall and solving many problems.
All liberals will be deported to Canada and North Korea.
All homeless will move to Puerto Rico and Cuba where it is warmer.
All criminals will be sent to Mars.
M.A.G.A... -
sbeefyk2 wrote:
You are all dingles. The benefits of staying together far outweighs the benefits of breaking up.
Do you not know they’d have to make trade agreements with every nations? Interstate commerce would cease to exist for one example. And there’s a million other issues to talk about here. The USA is not breaking up.
What? Give up India? Are you crazy. All the spices. Give up the African Territories. That would be insane. All the minerals, natural gas and oil. Empires fall and empires fail. They all do. -
sbeefyk2 wrote:
The USA is not breaking up.
Ever heard of the USSR?
