Forest Gump again wrote:
I just asked myself who is Nick Symmonds and I found this: "Off the track, Symmonds has dated Paris Hilton. Symmonds has been called the "Brad Pitt" of track." on wikipedia.
That’s just the important stuff . I think if he microdoses rungum on the way up, Everest is a sure thing .
These days it’s 20% prep 30% cash and 50% luck to summit Everest. Won’t exactly be an achievement. Yawn.
Whaddaya MEAN nobody has broken 4:00 in the mile AND climbed Everest. I did it - same year I beat Jacqueline Gareau in the Boston Marathon for the victory! Same day I won Boston, in fact. I swear, and I don't lie. Which reminds me...I'm a rock video goddess with a song named after me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiKDm6s61DE
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Love,
Rosie Ruiz
Rock on! Run on! Climb on!
samax wrote:
Dndnndn wrote:
Do you know mountaineering or are you just spouting off what you have heard other armchair quarterbacks say?
Yes Everest is not the world’s hardest climb and yes, guided climbs have diluted the talent pool a bit, but don’t confuse that with thinking an acscent on Everest is easy or can be done by most people. Between weather, illness and altitude, it continues to be a crapshoot. Very few people summit and people die every year.
I do know mountaineering. I'll spare you a recap of my entire climbing resume, but I will say that I've been climbing rock and ice for more than 15 years, including big walls in Yosemite and Zion, and alpine routes all over North America. I live in a crag town, and climbing is as big a part of my life as running is.
I'm not saying getting to the top of Everest is easy. As you mentioned, there are plenty of objective hazards, including the general circus of competing for a summit window during Everest season. It's just that climbing Everest isn't that interesting. For the average guided climber, it doesn't even require a background in technical mountaineering.
Maybe if it were a humble dude climbing Everest for the love of the mountains I'd be reacting differently. This is just an utterly transparent marketing ploy.
Fair enough my friend - sounds like you know your stuff, and I can't disagree with your position. I personally still think the risk, and the effort is legit, no matter what the support model, but yes, Everest does have a mystique that may not be entirely deserved.
samax wrote:
[quote]Dndnndn wrote:
[quote]samax wrote:
I do know mountaineering. I'll spare you a recap of my entire climbing resume, but I will say that I've been climbing rock and ice for more than 15 years, including big walls in Yosemite and Zion, and alpine routes all over North America. I live in a crag town, and climbing is as big a part of my life as running is.
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Well, you might well be one of the more experienced climbers on this thread! I'm afraid it's quite a gap to first though ;)
Is this the thread where the handful of letsrun.com readers who also happen to be real climbers come out of the woodwork to sh*t on Nick's Everest ego trip? Well, then it has my endorsement. Cool that there's a small percentage that understand high levels in both ... lifestyles.
samax wrote:
I'm not saying getting to the top of Everest is easy. As you mentioned, there are plenty of objective hazards, including the general circus of competing for a summit window during Everest season. It's just that climbing Everest isn't that interesting. For the average guided climber, it doesn't even require a background in technical mountaineering.
Maybe if it were a humble dude climbing Everest for the love of the mountains I'd be reacting differently. This is just an utterly transparent marketing ploy.
Agree. Climbing Everest is probably the equivalent of a sub 3 hour marathon. If you have some ability, the time to train, good conditions on race day and, in the case of Everest, enough money, then you stand a decent chance of success. Climbing K2 would be more like a sub 4 minute mile.
Ultra Trail Guy wrote:
Kilian Jornet could break 4 in the mile. I dont think all of these people have be required to run a mile PR as part of an everest attempt
1/10 for content, but 9/10 for effort.
Overrated overrated wrote:
Everest is terribly overrated and the only difficult part is the elevation. If he really wants to do something impressive do K2. The Everest death rate is like 4%, K2 is like 23% (although if he was doing K2 I would make this post about how dumb he is to try that lol)
Or try Annapurna where the death rate is 1 in 4. Still an 8000m peak but very difficult. It's much more impressive when standing at the base of it and looking at the route. It's like "No Way!"
Sesamoiditis wrote:
He only mentions Edmund Hillary, and not Tenzing Norgay, as the first to summit Everest. Also, who has ever said that a sub 4 minute miler's body is too fragile to climb Everest?
You got a straight answer from Symmonds when he answered you on his initial Everest post. Why do you feel the need to do it again in a different forum? It also appears that you've deleted your comment.
Vancomycin wrote:
These days it’s 20% prep 30% cash and 50% luck to summit Everest. Won’t exactly be an achievement. Yawn.
Exactly, especially the luck part. A person can be in great shape but you have no control over how your body will react to the death zone, and pulmonary and cerebral edema affect a lot of people. If you are unable to get back down to at least base camp you will die.
agree 100%... this PR stunt is more of a feat of finance, rather than a feat of fitness
callforward wrote:
agree 100%... this PR stunt is more of a feat of finance, rather than a feat of fitness
Self-marketing is what he does best.
Just a guy doing his job.
duhhhh wrote:
https://twitter.com/NickSymmonds/status/992082155734949889Just a guy doing his job.
That's true..............but, most people outside of T&F have no idea who Nick Symmonds is. His market is very small compared to many other sports celebrities.
Weather is a huge factor too. Most people don't want to sit in Base Camp the entire season waiting for a summit window.
broken arrow wrote:
Vancomycin wrote:
These days it’s 20% prep 30% cash and 50% luck to summit Everest. Won’t exactly be an achievement. Yawn.
Exactly, especially the luck part. A person can be in great shape but you have no control over how your body will react to the death zone, and pulmonary and cerebral edema affect a lot of people. If you are unable to get back down to at least base camp you will die.
Samax, mind sharing your ST or MP handle? I'd be game to buy you dinner and beer if you're game to rope up sometime this summer...been thinking about a good road trip around the SW once my schedule opens up... i'll hit you up there if you like free beer ;)
Anybody know if Matt Taylor made it to the top? Summit window for this year is now closed.
Aslo in agreement. This is an article about a former football player who is 56 years old, doing the same thing as Nick. Seems like you just need money to pursue this. It's more of a financial challenge than a great physical feat.https://www.foxnews.com/sports/former-nfl-player-uses-lowest-point-of-his-life-to-propel-him-toward-incredible-feat
callforward wrote:
agree 100%... this PR stunt is more of a feat of finance, rather than a feat of fitness
This is an article about a former football player who is 56 years old, doing the same thing as Nick. Seems like you just need money to pursue this. It's more of a financial challenge than a great physical feat.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/former-nfl-player-uses-lowest-point-of-his-life-to-propel-him-toward-incredible-featBigballer wrote:
Just Posted on his social media "
4,638 humans have climbed Mt. Everest.
1,497 humans have broken 4 minutes in the Mile.
No human has ever done both. Until now....
Go to MileToMountain.com to learn more."
From the schedule published on the Website, it looks as if he will begin this summer with Kilimanjaro and end in summer 2021 with Everest.
Thanks for posting about yourself nick. Now go away.