Muir calls out Genzebe Dibaba

Not to similar ... wrote:

YMMV wrote:

G Dibaba

2015 (age 24) 3:50.07 Monaco (MON) 17 JUL 2015

2010 (age19) 4:06.10 Doha (QAT) 14 MAY 2010

L Muir

2016 (age23) 3:55.22 Paris (FRA) 27 AUG 2016

2012 (age 19) 4:17.81 Birmingham (GBR) 23 JUN 2012

Very similar progression until age 24

Dibaba improved 16 seconds in 5 years, but Muir improved 22.6 seconds in 4 years.

At age 19 Laura was obviously still undeveloped. From age 20-24, Dibaba improved 16 seconds whereas Muir improved 12 seconds. Those 4 seconds of difference are massive in terms of their all-time ranking.

It does seem apparent that negative perception and reaction to purported doping suspicion is far more prevalent amongst top female athletes. Is this because the males accept it as the norm or they just don’t get as salty about it.?

One look at Sifan Hassan’s face and body language on the podium during the 1500m medal ceremony indicates she has no trust or respect for Dibaba either, - especially interesting considering she herself is coached under the NOP umbrella!

As for Muirs declaration that she no longer speaks to Dibaba, I guess that’s up to her. But once again it brings the subject of British hypocrisy to light. As other commentators have pointed out, Mo Farah has a long history of friendship and involvement with Jama Aden and I could almost guarantee Muir still speaks to him.

Having said that, if Dibaba is still taking coaching instruction from Jama then this is a grave misjudgement in my opinion. - Either that or she is incredibly brave and loyal.

Additionally it must be noted that Genzebe Dibaba is accorded god like status within Ethiopia. She is supported and promoted without reservation, no questions are asked. I wonder whether living in such an environment causes a loss of global perspective in terms of her interpretation with regards to how she is otherwise perceived outside of Ethiopia.

Finally I note with interest that the Dibabas and Almaz Ayana are very religious people. ( especially Ayana who spends her free time visiting churches) - Establishing possible PED use may be as simple as asking them to swear in gods name that they have never touched illicit substances! - Just a thought....

I think correct answer is Hudson-Smith, Yousif, Cowan and Rooney. All shortly after Ujah, Gemili, Talbot and Mitchell-Blake stood on the top step.

Given the predominance of African Americans in your medal winners from the states it’s perhaps more relevant to compare the population size of this group. There are 38 million black and African Americans. They account for the majority of American track medals. In the UK there are 565 thousand Black people. So given the paucity of White medalists I’m going to say that the ethnic make up of the US may assist you.

xdfghuiop wrote:

Laura needs a Tan.

I believe they call her skin type "milk bottle" in Scotland. Her skin does not tan.

Athletics Illustrated wrote:

Here is some science that backs up the anecdotal evidence of anabolic steroid use:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8297054

Terrible study. They used rat pups and then made the leap that the data would be applicable to human adolescents. Craniofacial bones lose responsiveness to sex steroids upon maturation. Try again.

Hill Run wrote:

One look at Sifan Hassan’s face and body language on the podium during the 1500m medal ceremony indicates she has no trust or respect for Dibaba either

Eh? Pretty sure Hassan was pissed that she lost to doping, whiny Muir more than anything. She seemed much happier with her silver in the 3k than the bronze in the 1500.

OP clearly doesn’t understand the meaning of the term “calls out”.

Ultraboy wrote:

I think correct answer is Hudson-Smith, Yousif, Cowan and Rooney. All shortly after Ujah, Gemili, Talbot and Mitchell-Blake stood on the top step.

Given the predominance of African Americans in your medal winners from the states it’s perhaps more relevant to compare the population size of this group. There are 38 million black and African Americans. They account for the majority of American track medals. In the UK there are 565 thousand Black people. So given the paucity of White medalists I’m going to say that the ethnic make up of the US may assist you.

Yes..... And since most of our Caucasian ancestors are pasty Brits what's your real point?

What counts is how pretty they are. Genzebe is HOT, Muir NOT.

Nuff said

Yes,So wrote:

Ultraboy wrote:

I think correct answer is Hudson-Smith, Yousif, Cowan and Rooney. All shortly after Ujah, Gemili, Talbot and Mitchell-Blake stood on the top step.

Given the predominance of African Americans in your medal winners from the states it’s perhaps more relevant to compare the population size of this group. There are 38 million black and African Americans. They account for the majority of American track medals. In the UK there are 565 thousand Black people. So given the paucity of White medalists I’m going to say that the ethnic make up of the US may assist you.

Yes..... And since most of our Caucasian ancestors are pasty Brits what's your real point?

And since your greatest distance athlete is either the Somali named Farah or the blood doping, Sir Coe, what exactly is your point??

That since 1 about 100,000 American youth choose distancr running vs 1 in 10 Brits youth that somehow there is more talent in UK??

Conversely, I'd say you're furthering the point that UK athletics and especially cycling is DIRTY.

Athletics Illustrated wrote:

Paula Radcliffe's marathon record of 2:15:25 is very close to Dennis Kimetto's 2:02:57 in performance. Why is it that there is over a decade of accusations about Radcliffe and nearly nothing about Kimetto. Almost all performances by men are 10-11% faster than the top women's....do the math from 100m to the marathon and likely beyond.

Radcliffe's record when she ran it was an outlier. The men caught up to it later.

Kipchoge's 2:00:25 is more of an outlier. Although for reasons we all know well, it cannot count as an official marathon. But still, Kipchoge is often referred to as the greatest marathon runner ever.

➡Jos Hermens was caught on camera last year (or 2016) basically claiming Kimetto's WR was drug fuelled.

➡Kipchoge's 2:00:25 was all about the conditions, no wind, no sharp turns, 100% pacing, drafting, no drinks stops, optimal distance guidance. Really 2:02/3. Though Paula was similar with her "male companions."

I love it ... wrote:

Filthy Muir wrote:

Muir is probably the dirtiest woman still competing.

She's using the same strategy as Radcliffe, cast the blame to everyone else.

What do the psychologists say? Laura Muir, who loses to G. Dibaba by relatively narrow margins, refers to G. Dibaba as a drug cheat? Ms. Laura Muir, G. Dibaba was born and raised at an elevation above 7500ft. How is it Ms. Laura Muir that you can compete against G. Dibaba, earning your silver and bronze if she's dirty and you are clean? As a veterinarian, Ms. Laura Muir, you are around the drugs the Thoroughbred Horses use.

You can check the archives but Renato has repeatedly said altitude is everything. He has also said if Kenyans spend too long at sea level (a couple of months) they become sea level athletes, he has also admitted that he is surprised that the Dibaba's perform so well given that they spend so long at sea level. Sabadell is at sea level (or close enough).

Now That's Telling It Like It Is wrote:

Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:

Suspicious links to Muir = 0

Dibaba/Aden =

➡Torrence has first hand knowledge and says they are dirty.

➡Hamza Drouich tested positive for EPO and he claimed Jama was forcing it into him.

➡Sabadell raid

➡times & medals

+1

Nailed it as usual Subway ?

^^yup, this^^

Athletics Illustrated wrote:

Paula Radcliffe's marathon record of 2:15:25 is very close to Dennis Kimetto's 2:02:57 in performance. Why is it that there is over a decade of accusations about Radcliffe and nearly nothing about Kimetto.

If Kimetto was screaming about other athletes use of EPO all while having an entire country of fans backing him up as Radcliffe has or that decade, you'd hear about Kimetto.

jonnyjinlondon wrote:

Now That's Telling It Like It Is wrote:

+1

Nailed it as usual Subway ?

^^yup, this^^

Team Sky = British

Obviously, since Muir is British then it follows that Muir is doping.

I mean, since G. Dibaba was not at Sabadell raid, she's still guilty, right?

And since Dibaba's PR improvement of 16 seconds in her career is less than Muir's 20 second improvement then, oh wait....

Muir must be dirty too!!

I'll say it again. If a male 1500m runner came out and ran six secs faster than any of his rivals - can you even imagine that - would you think that it was legit?

No you wouldn't, but that's what Genzebe did in 2015.

You have to be very stupid to think her 3min 50sec was legit.

And, from the reaction of her rivals at the end of the race, none of them thought so too.

jonnyjinlondon wrote:

You nailed it `' wrote:

Rubbish, we're having the conversation because she, her whole team and her coach were caught with boatloads of EPO and steroids at a training camp. Furthermore, ex-training partners have dished the dirt. Muir has NEVER been associated with anything of the kind.

STOP turning it in to a black victim thing [Didoper ain't no victim], and get over the fact that a white girl runs with the black girls. Yes, black genes are - on average - a lot better for athletics (white genes may arguably be better - on average - with other more cerebral things). However, occasionally - rarely even - the whities turn out a 'freak' of their own who can compete with the black girls. Just like, very rarely, black people turn out a physicist or mathematician who is half decent...Get over it..

OK JOHNNY UK,

Actually the conversation has turned to call out Muir and the raving UK hypocrisy when it comes to doping.

-Farah. Same connection to Aden as Dibaba.

Team Sky. Apparently a lot more to the

story....

Wiggins. See Sky.

Froome. Tested positive. Team Sky.

Radcliffe. Yeah, right. ....good thing biological passport wasn't in place then!

IGF -1 lr3 ..............................the speed peptide .

both on it ,

just that muir annoyed that doesnt have choosen status within iaaf ,

nor can dope alot more like dibaba to take her to next level .

scotland with hawkins and scottish womens 400 m runner also on .

lets look spain as finally joined the party , 10 years to late

their sprinters getting the job done on the speed peptide

like poland . . but like muir will never be at top of pile unless add other dope .

like we saw in mens 60 m with this new very strong untested androgen doing rounds

with coleman and su bingtian and other american baker . and with igf potent combo .

are coleman and ronnie baker training partners . explain alot and where does blake smith train .

SmoggySKY wrote:

I mean, since G. Dibaba was not at Sabadell raid, she's still guilty, right?

This is the first I have heard of this, evidence?