Ryan Hall 370 lbs deadlift

joedirt wrote:

doing one rep of any lift is a bad idea and a good way to get injured. Stick to the reps.

One rep max is like a race, bro. Saying your deadlift is 370lb is like saying your 5k is 19:49.

You're saying you should train through everything because racing/one rep max is too stressful on the body.

joedirt wrote:

doing one rep of any lift is a bad idea and a good way to get injured. Stick to the reps.

False. You get hurt on later reps more than a one rep max realistic effort with a good warm-up.

What’s with those sprint times? Why is he so slow?

I get that he’s not a sprinter but 77 seconds for a 400 and 35 for a 200?

guess I’m faster wrote:

What’s with those sprint times? Why is he so slow?

I get that he’s not a sprinter but 77 seconds for a 400 and 35 for a 200?

His daughter did not inherit his great speed. Despite being Ethiopian.

After he sends wifey to run races to bring the bread home for kids he couldn't procreate, he lifts in the basement to relive his youth? What happened to his dude trucker hat?

Last workout was 465, 3 sets of 5.

There are high school aged female sprinters who weigh less than him who can deadlift that much. Granted, I'm talking about exceptional athletes doing something well within their forte.

Clearly despite the boosted testosterone, lifting is not something Ryan Hall is very talented at. There is nothing wrong with him doing lifting as part of an all around fitness routine, but I'm not sure why he is posting about it.

surely this kind of weight is pretty good for a guy who is probably genetically predisposed to be super slow-twitch?

ytryrt wrote:

surely this kind of weight is pretty good for a guy who is probably genetically predisposed to be super slow-twitch?

Not really. This is a good amount of weight, but not anything special considering Hall probably trains very well, eats very well, and probably takes some sort of testosterone. The deadlift is mostly an expression of power, and anyone can train power. What would be really interesting is if he began to post high totals in the snatch or clean & jerk, lifts that require both power and explossiveness.

[quote]a dope wrote:

Can't believe he has his kids take pics of him while he's lifting. What a dope.[/quotes

Can't believe you find something wrong with him setting a good example of a healthy lifestyle to his children bad. What a dope.

Pretzel Man wrote:

[quote]a dope wrote:

Can't believe he has his kids take pics of him while he's lifting. What a dope.[/quotes

Can't believe you find something wrong with him setting a good example of a healthy lifestyle to his children bad. What a dope.

Do you dorks have anything better to do other than troll a former world class runner who wants to lift weights now?

Sdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdf wrote:

There are high school aged female sprinters who weigh less than him who can deadlift that much. Granted, I'm talking about exceptional athletes doing something well within their forte.

Clearly despite the boosted testosterone, lifting is not something Ryan Hall is very talented at. There is nothing wrong with him doing lifting as part of an all around fitness routine, but I'm not sure why he is posting about it.

please provide an example. this sounds incredibly impressive. I've trained with national-caliber male d1 sprinters who could not deadlift 370 lbs if their lives depended on it.

demGirlsOnReginaJacobsIsh??? wrote:

please provide an example. this sounds incredibly impressive. I've trained with national-caliber male d1 sprinters who could not deadlift 370 lbs if their lives depended on it.

Yeah, I'm with this guy, 370 seems like a lot to me. Certainly no one on my college XC team or track team could do this (maybe a few of the throwers who ran sprints as necessary). I was injured in 2013 and lifted a lot and plateaued at like 295 (weighing 145, and not interested in bulking up). I know Ryan's gained some weight since he retired but this seems pretty good or someone whom the New Yorker once described as:

"[standing] five feet eleven inches tall, and he weighs a hundred and forty pounds, and in most parts of the country he wouldn’t be recognized as an athlete. He has slender shoulders, slight arms, and narrow hips. Sleepy eyes—this is the look of a man who runs so much that he takes a nap most days... From the time they are children, the Kenyans run more miles, and they run them faster. Hall had also been putting in high miles since he was a teen-ager, and over time he had honed his natural runner’s build—high waist, big muscular thighs, long whippet-thin calves "

For a former Olympian, even at the marathon, I’m surprised he’s not pulling more. I kind of equate 1/2/3/4 as the gym equivalent of a 4:30 mile. You need some talent and serious dedication to do, but within those circles it’s not considered remarkable.

michael furey wrote:

YMMV wrote:

Exogenous testosterone works folks.

Lol you absolutely do not need T for a 370 lbs deadlift. I really only start to get suspicious when people are benching > 225 lbs for reps and pulling more than mid 400s or 500. But even then a lot of guys are clean.

Saying that guys who rep over 225 are on test is like saying that anyone who can run faster than a seven minute mile is on EPO. Get real.

Bench 315

Squat 405

Dead 495

Looking through his IG pages, this is just another scheme to get not get a real job. Product placements everywhere. He sure is pushing those salmon steaks, wet suits, etc. I guess the Asics is not paying him as much to lift and wear his bro cap backwards.

The deadlift is not an expression of power. It is an expression of strength. Power is work done over time, and any max effort lift is quite slow. If you squat 1000lbs in a competition with a bar travel distance of 1m over 5s of time, the power output for that is 1960w. The type of guy that can do that is usually 250+lbs, so that's about 8w/kg. Compare that to a top cycling sprinter who might do 20-25 w/kg, or some of the olympic lifters who can do 40-50 w/kg on the C&J.

Power-lifting fiber types have been generally found to be quite similar to untrained individuals, which suggests that powerlifting isn't selecting for fast twitch. Slow twitch fibers can still contract and develop force, they just can't contract fast. In very simple terms, you don't have a time limit or need to generate for rapidly for a squat/deadlift/bench (you can make some arguments that fast force generation can help marginally getting through a sticking point, but that's getting techincal).

That said, I agree with your overall post, I'd just amend it to say deadlift is an expression of strength, and the Olympic lifts are an expression of power.

This. Absolutely. Repping 225 is not a big deal. If you can triple 225, you can probably bench somewhere around 250. If you can do it for 10 reps, then maybe around 300. 250 is downright common, and while a 315lb bench at most generic gyms will put you into the "strong(er) guy at the gym category" it's a routine lift that you see regularly. It's probably equivalent to a 16' 5k or something like that. It's pretty good even for people somewhat serious about their training, but it's still pedestrian by most highly dedicated standards.

A 500lb pull is a litter stronger in my opinion, but still not that uncommon. I don't think deadlifts are generally suspicious until you start to get into the 3x bodyweight category, although there are absoutely people that can pull well over 3x bodyweight totally natural. 4x bodyweight? Probably not.

bro, you're boring as fvck