goo away wrote:
you are so wrong wrote:
This kid made certain decisions and those decisions have consequences. Right now this person is competing on an unequal basis and there's no one else to blame for that.
jesus christ go away. if i wanted to hear the opinions of an a$$hole i'd fart
What did he say that would elicit such a rude response?
Am I missing the elephant in the room here.
What’s he/she got between his/her legs.
If it’s a male’s wedding tackle, I’m surprised the females don’t boycott the event.
Take a look this so-called female weightlifter - the whole thing has gone beyond a joke now.
Transgender Male = Born with Female Anatomy and takes testosterone to develop masculine secondary sex characteristics to reaffirm their identity as a Man. May or may not go through surgery to change genitals.
Transgender Woman = Born with Male Anatomy and takes estrogen to develop female secondary sex characteristics to reaffirm their identity as a Woman. May or may not go through surgery to change genitals.
People who claim to be transgender and don't do anything medical about it are most likely SJW snowflakes/trans trenders that have issues or can't afford it.
This athlete, I'm assuming was born anatomically female, has been taking testosterone to help him look more masculine and essentially "male." He should be competing with the boys.
YMMV wrote:
The look on that ref's face says it all.
I was going to say the same
Count Chocula wrote:
Hardloper wrote:
No they aren't
Yes they are
No, male athletes are not allowed to pump themselves full of synthetic testosterone, that's cheating plain and simple.
It's called nihilism/liberalism...A rejection of moral values.
Couldn't they just make male sports open to everyone and female sports "female-by-birth only"? And no discrimination based on gender identity, purely skill level.
Something to distract us from the real issues.
heavyd84 wrote:
Couldn't they just make male sports open to everyone and female sports "female-by-birth only"? And no discrimination based on gender identity, purely skill level.
Yeah, it seems to be a more "fair" way of doing things because most of the time it's a guy wanting to compete vs girls, I haven't seen any situations where a girl>guy trans. is wanting to take on actual boys/men.
Count Chocula wrote:
Thanks for the response. If I am understanding you correctly, you are suggesting that rather than be allowed to compete in the boys' division, a person who is born female and transitions to male should not be allowed to compete at all?
The gentlemanly thing to do would be to decline to wrestle at all upon being denied entry into fair competition. Not all hormone-therapy transitioning former females are gentlemen.
Here's one at the elite level: https://www.advocate.com/sports/2015/06/08/triathlete-chris-mosier-joins-men-team-usa-making-transgender-sports-history It was pretty big news when it happened. I think it was even posted here.
NotPC wrote:
heavyd84 wrote:
Couldn't they just make male sports open to everyone and female sports "female-by-birth only"? And no discrimination based on gender identity, purely skill level.
Yeah, it seems to be a more "fair" way of doing things because most of the time it's a guy wanting to compete vs girls, I haven't seen any situations where a girl>guy trans. is wanting to take on actual boys/men.
So he wants to wrestle against boys but the state of Texas forces him to wrestle girls?
I hope the boos were for the state of Texas and their backwardness. The birth certificate rule is backward.
Joplas wrote:
I hope the boos were for the state of Texas and their backwardness. The birth certificate rule is backward.
nor·mal
adjective
1. conforming to a standard; usual, typical, or expected.
back·ward
1. (of a movement) away from one's front; in the direction of one's back.
"he took a step backward"
synonyms: toward the rear, rearward, behind one
"Penny glanced backward"
antonyms: forward
in reverse of the usual direction or order.
"counting backward"
Wikipedia says 0.3% of people are 'transgender' (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_demographics_of_the_United_States). Given most people are cisgender (still consider themselves what is on their birth certificate), I would say Texas' rules are 'normal' rather than 'backward' (by definition). However, as others have said, nobody taking known performance enhancers should be allowed to compete against girls (or boys) who don't have the benefit of those enhancers. The real victims are the girls who missed the proper place in their event (and to some extent the parents who don't get to enjoy the relative success of their daughters properly). The victim is not the person who chose to compete knowing she had an advantage conferred to her by drugs.
Is it really a big deal though?
We are talking about high school sports. I don't really think that anyone is losing out on prize money and scholarships because of this.
Sure the playing field isn't level and little Jenny won't win state but if that was going to be the highlight of her life then that is pretty sad too.
Life isn't fair, business isn't fair and guess what... sports competitions aren't always fair. Get over it and move on.
HS wrestling was coed when I was in school. A buddy of mine had to wrestle a girl in the 115 weight class. She almost beat him. Sure there's potential for lopsided matches, but at least in a sport with weight classes, the gender gap is somewhat narrowed. Just make it all coed and be done with it.
backward? wrote:
Given most people are cisgender (still consider themselves what is on their birth certificate), I would say Texas' rules are 'normal' rather than 'backward' (by definition). However, as others have said, nobody taking known performance enhancers should be allowed to compete against girls (or boys) who don't have the benefit of those enhancers. The real victims are the girls who missed the proper place in their event (and to some extent the parents who don't get to enjoy the relative success of their daughters properly). The victim is not the person who chose to compete knowing she had an advantage conferred to her by drugs.
Thats a lame argument. Most people consider themselves the same gender as their birth certificate precisely because they have not been diagnosed with gender issues like this young man. Your argument is lame. Its like telling a person who broke his arm not to put on a cast because most people dont walk around with a cast.
Yes the victim is the girls and the victimizer is the state of texas for having backward rules. Get with the times people !
And if your problem is the fact that he is using PEDs then blame that on texas as well. They are the ones allowing him to compete.
Texas is using the same lame rules that allow semenya to compete against women when he/she is clearly a man.
The young man in texas has stated openly that he wants to compete against boys but the state of texas would not let him.
Clearly texas wants to fight the transgender culture wars instead of using common sense.
fghrunner wrote:
*transgenger girl
*transgender
Nobody would choose to transition to a redhead.
This is insanity.....Leftist insanity....Deny reality....
derp wrote:
fghrunner wrote:
*transgenger girl
*transgender
Nobody would choose to transition to a redhead.
That would be a "transginger".
Trollin' Trollin' Trollin' wrote:
Surprised this hasn't been posted yet (or i'm just too blind to see it)
https://nypost.com/2018/02/25/transgender-boy-wins-girls-state-wrestling-title-for-second-time/
Texas is clearly on the correct side of gender participation debate.
Texas is on the wrong side of allowing PEDs in competetion and not ensuring competitive fairness.
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