How Australia stopped mass shootings.

gun laws educator wrote:

Americans aren't allowed to own automatic weapons either (with very few exceptions). Even the dreaded AR-15 is semi-automatic.

Plenty of good arguments on your side. You're either making something up or woefully ignorant of gun laws.

You are plainly ignorant of how guns work. Ever heard of "bump stocks"? Oh, those are not "considered" automatic weapons, regardless of the fact that they simulate the action of AR-15s. But wait, they are not nearly as fast shooting as an AR-15, so they do not count. Yup, being able to fire hundreds of rounds per minute was something the 2nd amendment authors knew would happen some day.

gun laws educator wrote:

Americans aren't allowed to own automatic weapons either (with very few exceptions). Even the dreaded AR-15 is semi-automatic.

Plenty of good arguments on your side. You're either making something up or woefully ignorant of gun laws.

When you say with few exceptions are you referring to the 35+ states where it is completely legal to buy a registered machine gun? Because that doesn't seem like a rare exception.

down gunder wrote:

Gun control.

https://www.facebook.com/AustralianDemocraticSocialists/videos/1416864731762991/?hc_ref=ARTRW1he7rTwTfFDnDDXg8HzRTcv9CwbeVvUgaZrxLA64-8Jh3GycMFTMSb16HwwUd0&fref=gs&dti=1534891523441903&hc_location=group

Handily put into a funny, easy to watch video for us Americans that can't be bothered to read statistics and research that every other developed nation has done, countries that coincidentally don't have their school kids being shot at every day. That isn't a hyperbole. Our schoolkids are shot at every day.

MASS SHOOTINGS WERE STOPPED OVERNIGHT. WHY HAVEN'T WE LEARNED?

Great video! Australia has done it right! This just shows you how idiotic these gun nuts are in America! They only care about themselves!

I urge CONGRESS to BAN all firearms in this country!

These acts of EVIL have got to STOP!

AMERICA has become a SLAUGHTERHOUSE for the innocent!

You can't even attend an OUTDOOR CONCERT without being SLAUGHTERED like cattle!

You can't even attend PUBLIC SCHOOL without being SLAUGHTERED like cattle!

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

CONGRESS STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND BAN ALL FIREARMS NOW!

I'm PISSED and SICK & TIRED of EVIL people having access to WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION! ?

CONGRESS DO SOMETHING RIGHT FOR ONCE AND BAN ALL FIREARMS!

BAN FIREARMS NOW AND SAVE INNOCENT LIVES!!!

Melburnian wrote:

Grew up in Australia.

Australian firearm related deaths per 100,000 roughly = 0.93

USA firearm related deaths per 100,000 roughly = 10.54

Guns in Australia are hard (not impossible) to get. Didn't know anyone who owned a gun or thought it was a good idea for civilians to own guns.

In fact, the general perception that I experienced was that if you were someone who actually wanted a gun, you were someone who shouldn't be anywhere near a gun.

I grew up in Bathurst, NSW. We owned firearms, and many people I grew up around, if not most, owned firearms. I'd left Oz by the time of the buyback, but my parents handed in all of the guns they owned.

no YOURE hilarious wrote:

wtfunny wrote:

Only a fool and/or an arrogant narcissist refuses to consider things that seem to work for others.

Only an even bigger fool refuses to acknowledge the laws that exist in this country that prevent copying the changes other countries have made. You notice I do not state what I think is correct, I am just pointing out the laws that exist in this country that we have to work around.

You want real, lasting gun control in this country? You need a constitutional amendment, end of story.

You said what other countries have done is irrelevant. I disagree. It's a perfectly reasonable to examine and consider the efficacy of their policies. And if seems to work well, we can decide whether to move towards that approach or not.

Changing laws here isn't impossible. They're called "amendments" afterall.

wtfunny wrote:

no YOURE hilarious wrote:

Only an even bigger fool refuses to acknowledge the laws that exist in this country that prevent copying the changes other countries have made. You notice I do not state what I think is correct, I am just pointing out the laws that exist in this country that we have to work around.

You want real, lasting gun control in this country? You need a constitutional amendment, end of story.

You said what other countries have done is irrelevant. I disagree. It's a perfectly reasonable to examine and consider the efficacy of their policies. And if seems to work well, we can decide whether to move towards that approach or not.

Changing laws here isn't impossible. They're called "amendments" afterall.

If you understand what is involved in passing an amendment to the constitution you must realize that it's folly/idiocy to think that the second amendment would EVER be struck down...Lets be realistic...

FOUR children and three adults have died in a suspected mass shooting at a home near Margaret River on Western Australia’s south coast. WA Police Commissioner Chris Dawson told media at a press conference today a “significant tragedy has unfolded in the south-west”.

He has confirmed that the four children and three adults were found at the scene on a property at Osmington after police were called at 5.15am local time this morning.

“Police are currently responding to what I can only describe as an horrific incident in Osmington, 20km north-east of Margaret River,” he said.

“It is early in this investigation. Based on what we do know, this is clearly a tragedy.

“At about 5.15am this morning, police were called to a rural property on the outskirts of this property at Margaret River.”

Hillary speaks in Sydney tonight wrote:

FOUR children and three adults have died in a suspected mass shooting at a home near Margaret River on Western Australia’s south coast.

It is a "mere" 2,500 miles from Perth to Sydney. Did you sleep though schools, bogan?

Lots of mass shootings in Oz recently.

2011 Hectorville, 4 shot, 3 died (meets definition of 4 shot), then shot 2 more in police standoff

2014 Lockhart, family incident, guy killed 4 others then himself

2014 Couple of months later, another family one (Wedderburn), siege with 3 dead total (maybe one was originally stabbed before shooting). Police were almost like Broward County: When officers arrived at the scene last night they found one person dead in the paddock of the Mulga Ridge Road property before police heard more gunshots, Superintendent Graham Kent said last night.'Given the circumstances, police decided to withdraw from the scene,' he said.

Not to mention, Cairns had 8 kids knived to death, Quaker Hill arson killed 11, Lin was 5 with a hammer... also like Cluedo(r) with the various weapons used.

Media doesn't highlight it 24/7 though, like in USA.

He acknowledged the impact the tragedy would have on the small regional town, well known as a surfing hotspot. ...

Margaret River is a well-known tourist destination because of its wine industry.

2500 miles wrote:

Hillary speaks in Sydney tonight wrote:

FOUR children and three adults have died in a suspected mass shooting at a home near Margaret River on Western Australia’s south coast.

It is a "mere" 2,500 miles from Perth to Sydney. Did you sleep though schools, bogan?

Who mentioned Perth??? It's like 250km away.

You failed geography? wrote:

Who mentioned Perth??? It's like 250km away.

You failed at who is the president.

You failed geography? wrote:

2500 miles wrote:

It is a "mere" 2,500 miles from Perth to Sydney. Did you sleep though schools, bogan?

Who mentioned Perth??? It's like 250km away.

The distance from where Hillary is speaking (Sydney) to Margaret River is 4100km.

Trump Owns It wrote:

You failed geography? wrote:

Who mentioned Perth??? It's like 250km away.

You failed at who is the president.

Australia doesn't have a President?!

Western Australia is rather Canberra-wary (GST especially), but I can't imagine anyone would try to blame Turnbull or McGowan anyway. It's not like USA media (even with extreme leftist state-run ABC) where Trump gets blamed, for everything nasty because unhinged losers want to overturn USA election. People still have some self-responsibility here.

Perth wrote:

Hillary speaks in Sydney tonight wrote:

FOUR children and three adults have died in a suspected mass shooting at a home near Margaret River on Western Australia’s south coast.

The distance from where Hillary is speaking (Sydney) to Margaret River is 4100km.

I can't imagine she'll miss a chance to exploit the opportunity. Probably her teleprompter guy is already cue-ing up the speechwriter's lines already.

Hahahahah wrote:

white guy 69 wrote:

(don't mention the all white population)

Don’t mention that in the US, most mass shooters are WHITE and most peadofiles are WHITE and most serial killers are WHITE.

Racist scum.

Incorrect! We American gun nuts aren’t racist!!! Just look at the solid non-racist logic we use when determining the cause of a mass shooting below....

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Deer fellow LRC liberty-minded patriots,

The following is the LRC, NRA, Dana Loesch, and Brietbart sanctioned algorithm for assigning motive to a mass shootings:

1) First step, determine the perpetrator's religion. If they're Muslim you're done! They are a radical Islamic terrorist motivated by their religion (which should heretofore be referred to as a pseudo-religion, political movement, or "death cult" in any discussion). The solution to the problem in these cases is to ban Islam and restrict immigration. It's irrelevant if the perp is a US born citizen or if said ban doesn't even include the perps or perps parents country of origin. The perps religion is the ONLY possible explanation for their motives and the above ban is the ONLY viable solution to prevent future attacks. If the perp is not Muslim move to step two in the algorithm.

2) Second step, if a non-Muslim committed the heinous act determine the perpetrator's race. If they are black you're done! The cause of the shooting is the lack or a moral compass in the black community, blacks inherent violent nature, Antifa, or black lives matter. The only possible solutions are harsher prison sentences, for-profit charter schools, reinstatement of school prayer, and tax cuts. If the perp is neither Muslim or black, move to step three.

3) Step three, is the shooter Hispanic by chance? If yes, the solutions are to build a MASSIVE border wall across our entire Southern border, permanently station US infantry / artillery / special forces along the US-Mexico border, end chain migration, deportation of all DACA recipients, and mandatory English education...TALK ‘Murican dammit! If the shooter is not Hispanic move to the next step below.

4) Is the shooter a teenager or a college kid? If yes, you’re done! The cause of the shooting is the nanny state, generational laziness, violent video games & movies, pre-marital sex, porn, and the absence of God (The Christian God) in schools. We need to ban all porn, ban all violent video games & movies, teach abstinence-only sex education, bring back school prayer, and slash all entitlement programs (except for Medicare and social security for the elderly...).

5) Can it be proven that the shooter is a registered Democrat? If yes, you’re done! The cause is the violent political ideology of the left. Didn’t you know the Nazis were Social Democrats? Didn’t you know that the Democratic Party of the early 20th century was pro-segregation? The only solution to save our Democracy is to have single party control of the Government and to make Trump & his family POTUS for life—that’s how you save Democracy!

6) Is the shooter a woman? If yes, this is a rare event but the cause is the loss of family values, no fault divorce, legalized abortion, easy access to contraception, and women’s inability to handle work related stress. We need to ban all abortion, contraception, and divorce to prevent such incidents in the future.

7) This is the final step. In this step the perpetrator is a white male that may or may not be a Christian. In these cases (which are the majority) the only possible explanation is mental illness. In these cases it is way too soon to discuss doing anything! After all we cannot overreact to these situations by passing EXTREME new laws! The only option is to turn to prayer and realize that we are helpless to prevent further similar incidents. After some time for prayer and reflection, the only reasonable possible solution is to arm every man, woman, and child with large caliber firearms and mandate open carry at all times.

Please follow the above algorithm at all times to insure a productive, reality based discussion of gun violence in America on the boards. That is all.

Let's make things simple and what they are:

The USA is THE dumbest fuckking country ever when it comes to guns. There is a cult gun culture where facts are ignored. The USA is the only 1st world country with such insane per capita gun homicide rates. And it's the only country that says they can't do anything b/c of the 2nd Amendment and the fact they have the fuckkhole NRA corrupting every Republican in office with their whore $$.

Kids and innocents will continue to be shot dead and the dumbest country on earth will continue to let it happen while countries with a BRAINS and BALLS continue to shake their head in disbelief. My neighbor left to Vegas to go to concert, as she danced with her friend outside, she gets shot in the head and her life is now over. 43yrs old. Why? Because somehow it's legal to own as many AR-15s AS YOU WANT in Nevada. Want 30? No problem. And then when someone snaps and decides to kill a bunch of people and themselves......the USA just sits and waits.

Let the carnage continue.

48yroldrunna wrote:

Kids and innocents will continue to be shot dead and the dumbest country on earth will continue to let it happen