Ban Alcohol and Wine to save lives

Stunner stonner wrote:

100m wrote:

I'm not in favor of banning ANY substances due to concerns for individual liberties, however if we are going to live in a society that bans drugs, alcohol, marijuana, and strong opiates should be chief among them (marijuana especially). In short: yes, I agree with you.

You lost a lot of credibility when you described marijuana as a “strong opiate”. Is coffee an “dangerous hallucinogenic drug”?

I am asking seriously and out of strong concern: are you literate? If so, how stoned are you at the moment? Lastly, if you truly are stoned, you are making my argument for me.

The only function of a gun is to kill. Cars, alcohol and designed for other functions and only cause fatalities with misuse. A gun causes death when used properly. This is the difference.

Weapons like the AR-15 are not designed for target practice, hunting or self defense. They were designed to take out as many humans as possible. They have no beneficial or legal designed use. That is why they should be banned.

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2017/06/15/peds.2016-3486

You are correct. Read: 2nd Amendment. Note: police kill innocent victims almost every day. Read: purpose of 2nd Amendment.

Racket wrote:

Ban_alcohol wrote:

Serious question, would you be in favor of banning alcohol to save lives?

https://www.cdc.gov/motorvehiclesafety/impaired_driving/impaired-drv_factsheet.html

I would show the CDC chart on gun deaths to counter you, but they're literally prohibited from compiling such results.

The CDC has nothing to do with the regulation or tracking of firearm related deaths. They are an entity that tracks morbidity and mortality from disease. There are plenty of places you can obtain data on firearm related deaths.

jorvack wrote:

The only function of a gun is to kill. Cars, alcohol and designed for other functions and only cause fatalities with misuse. A gun causes death when used properly. This is the difference.

Weapons like the AR-15 are not designed for target practice, hunting or self defense. They were designed to take out as many humans as possible. They have no beneficial or legal designed use. That is why they should be banned.

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2017/06/15/peds.2016-3486

On the contrary, the AR 15 is used for competition, target shooting, as well as hunting. I use one for all three. Its no different than any other semi auto in my gun cabinet. Its not even considered an "assault" weapon as it does not have a fully automatic mode.

jorvack wrote:

The only function of a gun is to kill. Cars, alcohol and designed for other functions and only cause fatalities with misuse. A gun causes death when used properly. This is the difference.

Weapons like the AR-15 are not designed for target practice, hunting or self defense. They were designed to take out as many humans as possible. They have no beneficial or legal designed use. That is why they should be banned.

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2017/06/15/peds.2016-3486

The purpose of a gun is to defend.

I'd be much more in favor of banning heart disease and cancer. That would save WAY more lives. Can we get some high school students to march in Washington to demand we ban these atrocities? Screw your prayers, the time for action is now!

CNN just reported that Republicans did NOT vote to spend 100 Trillion dollars on cancer and heart disease research next year. I hold every Republican politician responsible for EVERY cancer and heart disease death from now on. The victims blood is on their hands!

celery wrote:

I'd be much more in favor of banning heart disease and cancer. That would save WAY more lives. Can we get some high school students to march in Washington to demand we ban these atrocities? Screw your prayers, the time for action is now!

CNN just reported that Republicans did NOT vote to spend 100 Trillion dollars on cancer and heart disease research next year. I hold every Republican politician responsible for EVERY cancer and heart disease death from now on. The victims blood is on their hands!

Ha good luck with that. 80% of CHD is self inflicted, close to 50% of cancers. You'd first have to ban dietary saturated fat, cholesterol, as well as smoking. Mandate that everyone exercise at least 30 min a day and do relaxation activities the same amount of time. AND..........no more then 1500 mg of NaCl/day and no more than 1500-2000 calories food intake.

Ban This Ban THat wrote:

Ban cars if anything. They kill the most. Alcohol is good for you in moderation and guns are protected by the 2nd amendment.

Also, ban Ban, (the roll-on deodorant).

Is my bump stock protected by the 2nd?

SportySpice wrote:

Ban This Ban THat wrote:

Ban cars if anything. They kill the most. Alcohol is good for you in moderation and guns are protected by the 2nd amendment.

Is my bump stock protected by the 2nd?

No

jorvack wrote:

The only function of a gun is to kill. Cars, alcohol and designed for other functions and only cause fatalities with misuse. A gun causes death when used properly. This is the difference.

Weapons like the AR-15 are not designed for target practice, hunting or self defense. They were designed to take out as many humans as possible. They have no beneficial or legal designed use. That is why they should be banned.

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2017/06/15/peds.2016-3486

Thanks, Everytown shill!!! Don't know what we'd do without your copy/paste answers!!!

But wouldn't it all be worth it if we could save just one life? Whatever laws need to be passed, don't we owe it to our children? I'm sure there is a child somewhere who lost a parent to these diseases. That child should be on CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC so that we can raise awareness of this scourge, and demand that our politicians do something! If that doesn't work, then maybe Jimmy Kimmel can regularly cry about it on his show.

Yes perhaps George Soros, or maybe Mike Bloomberg could fund a march on Washington. I'm in.

Alcohol abuse is much worse in the UK than in the USA. The Brits need much more help than we do.

100m wrote:

Dromano19 wrote:

Give me an honest argument why weed should be illegal. I am really curious

I do not think any substance should be illegal due to concerns for individual liberties. However, as a physician, I am painfully aware of the ill effects that marijuana has on the brain. In that vein, if we are to live in a country that ignores individual liberties and bans substances based on their health and societal ill effects, marijuana should be at or near the top of the list of banned substances.

WHAT?!?!?!?!?!

NOT HEROIN, METH OR TERRIBLE PRESCRIPTION MEDS THAT KILL PEOPLE EVERYDAY?!?!?!

WEED - THAT ACTUALLY AS SOME HEALTH BENEFITS - AT THE TOP OF THE LIST?!?!?!

In a weird way of looking at this, in 2015 there were 111 million self-reports of driving under the influence and 10 thousand people died in alcohol / driving situations. This means that alcohol while driving has a correlation of a little less than .01% in regards to death in driving circumstances.

Also factor that if 111 million actually self-reported, it's likely the number was actually higher. And that you'd need to prove that alcohol was the only factor in why there was an accident in the first place (or that the absence of alcolhol would have resulted in a non-fatality).

It really makes it seem like DUI isn't all that dangerous.

Yes, ban alcohol. Ban cigarettes while you're at it. Law abiding citizens will follow the law. People who don't care about the law will still have them and abuse them. Wow, sounds like guns.

BLahhh2 wrote:

I am in favor of stricter drunk driving laws. Get caught drinking and driving and its a minimum 20 years.

Wow, head over to North Korea bro. Your perception of reasonable punishment for a crime will fit right in over there.