Tyrese Cooper to run 800m this weekend.

Mr technical........ wrote:

running commenter wrote:

You aren't that intelligent are you?

Explain to me how dnf ISN'T correct.

Thanks in advance

As some else stated.. logically you are right, but in Track we use DNS to indicate you did not start.. it’s like how you could call a square a rectangle and technically you are correct because a square is a type of rectangle... but we all call it a square because it’s more specific.

He started the EVENT Qed to move onto the next round but did not go to the line for the final therefore he did not finish the EVENT.

Some finishline systems have no way to report did not start in an ensuing round of the event.

btw this causes announcers to be confused when they look at ,say, lane three and see no athlete, They pre-printed start sheet they are given is created at the end of the previous round. There is no way to immediately report the athlete withdrew or failed to report to the starting line since the check-in time is usually only a few minutes before they line up to start

Truth be told at invitationals getting some prima donna pros to even check in for the meet, let alone on time for their events, is often difficult for officials.

wineturtle wrote:

He started the EVENT Qed to move onto the next round but did not go to the line for the final therefore he did not finish the EVENT.

Some finishline systems have no way to report did not start in an ensuing round of the event.

btw this causes announcers to be confused when they look at ,say, lane three and see no athlete, They pre-printed start sheet they are given is created at the end of the previous round. There is no way to immediately report the athlete withdrew or failed to report to the starting line since the check-in time is usually only a few minutes before they line up to start

Truth be told at invitationals getting some prima donna pros to even check in for the meet, let alone on time for their events, is often difficult for officials.

The explanation is fine however the original question of "what happened" is answered simply by stating he did not start the final which was the plan. He ran the 800 and 400 on Friday and 400 on Saturday. No 800.

asdasd wrote:

damn.. thanks for the update. the 800m is no joke, especially for sprinters that only go all the way to 400m. The lactic feeling is much more severe for those guys. if he chooses to move up to 800m... he would be world-class no doubt about it. he'll come around, eventually.

Of course he would be world class if he ran the 800m. The kid is basically world class in the 400m so the only way he moves up to 800m is if he is better in that event.:)

Seriously if you are running those 100/200m times, your choice in life is are you are 100/200m guy or a 400m one. We are talking about someone one that is basically too fast to be an 800m guy.

adsfdas wrote:

asdasd wrote:

damn.. thanks for the update. the 800m is no joke, especially for sprinters that only go all the way to 400m. The lactic feeling is much more severe for those guys. if he chooses to move up to 800m... he would be world-class no doubt about it. he'll come around, eventually.

Of course he would be world class if he ran the 800m. The kid is basically world class in the 400m so the only way he moves up to 800m is if he is better in that event.:)

Seriously if you are running those 100/200m times, your choice in life is are you are 100/200m guy or a 400m one. We are talking about someone one that is basically too fast to be an 800m guy.

Lee Evans and Edwin Moses did a few 800 races. They just did 800m races every now and then. Same with Cooper. I don't see this as an event change. Tyrese Cooper should keep bringing his 400m time down. Upside for being a 400m athlete: top six make the Olympic team. In 400m races, one has a lane the entire race. 400m runners don't get boxed-in, pushed, tripped or spiked (unless on a relay). 800m: pushed, tripped, boxed-in or forced to race in lane 3. Keep racing the 400m, Tyrese Cooper!

Considering I've coached kids whose 400m PR is 53x, who ran 1:57...that's slow for an athlete with a 45x PR. A 10.3x 100m PR indicates to me that this kid is a sprinter, which is why I wasn't expecting anything too spectacular, but he should be able to run faster than 1:57.

Back when I was in high school down there, he would have been DQed from all of his events if he didn't start the 800. Sprinters would false start out of the 100 and 200 on purpose because they wanted to focus on the other one, but needed to go ot the start line to not be dqed from their other event.

But maybe since he ran the prelim it was ok.

Happy to see people from my school and another close school running well. Piper and Plantation aren't traditionally even mediocre at 800 and up

Look at those arms! Someone has been hitting the box recently!! Hey Tyrese, I'll meet you and we can compare Cindy times, damnnn!!

Proof that crossfit makes you a better runners, folks, rihgt here!

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TrackCoach wrote:

Considering I've coached kids whose 400m PR is 53x, who ran 1:57...that's slow for an athlete with a 45x PR. A 10.3x 100m PR indicates to me that this kid is a sprinter, which is why I wasn't expecting anything too spectacular, but he should be able to run faster than 1:57.

Guess you missed the class that talked about fast twitch and slow twitch muscle fiber composition which is genetically determined.

People draw on examples all the time to make predictions. I do think it is valid to have expected cooper may have been closer than 5 seconds in the 800 to a guy he would be 15 meters in front of in their respective 400m PRs.

I would have predicted at least a second or two faster for cooper.

Also, I disagree that we would have "no clue" what he could run in the 800 if he were to train for it. Of course we have a clue. His 400m PR is absolutely a clue. I am not trying to suggest it gives us an accurate prediction, but it certainly is a "clue."

When I said Im sure he could run a fast time if he trained for it, I stand by it. Maybe we have different definitions of fast, though. I meant Im sure he could run in the 1:53 range if he trained for it. It seems basically impossible for a 46 400m runner to have poor enough endurance talent to not be able to train down to a 1:53 level. Now if your definition of "fast" is faster than that, I would no longer be sure. It is entirely possibly for a 46 400m runner to never be able to get to 1:50, as an example, no matter how hard they try.

Track Coach? wrote:

Guess you missed the class that talked about fast twitch and slow twitch muscle fiber composition which is genetically determined.

Genetic muscle twitch ratio differences amongst homo sapiens is an unproven theory. Muscle twitch ratio test are not done on infants. Muscle twitch ratio test are done on college students and by the shoe companies. Muscle twitch ratio is based on how one lives their life, especially as a youth. You're not confident in your statement. You decided not to use your registered name.

I dont think there is any doubt that he will stick with the 400 or shorter as his focus.

Anyway, not to be nitpicky, but if you are referring to the US, I cant think of a time when 6th in the 400m at trials, or even 6th fastest seasons best is chosen for the olympic 4x400m. Instead, we usually fill from the 400mhurdlers, or even a 200m runner, even if they havent run an open 400 that year, or havent run one since very early in the year, so their time is slow.

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Anyway, not to be nitpicky, but if you are referring to the US, I cant think of a time when 6th in the 400m at trials, or even 6th fastest seasons best is chosen for the olympic 4x400m. Instead, we usually fill from the 400mhurdlers, or even a 200m runner, even if they havent run an open 400 that year, or havent run one since very early in the year, so their time is slow.

USA 2016 Olympic Trials, men 400m F

1) LaShawn Merritt, 43.97

2) Gil Roberts, 44.73

3) David Verburg, 44.82

4) Arman Hall, 45.09

5) Tony McQuay, 45.30

6) Kyle Clemons, 45.39

7) Najee Glass, 45.48

8) Michael Berry, 45.90

Same six men on USA 4x400m gold 2016 Olympic Team.