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That link is posted because the last time they raced, Galen Rupp crushed Bekele over the last 400m of the 10,000m final. Bekele is too injured to be relevant right now and Rupp is the Chicago Marathon champion.
don't understand wrote:
Weird, I went to the link you provided and it had a 10,000m race. What on Earth has that got to do with the title of this thread?
Maybe he posted the wrong link? I don't get it either.[/quote]
The central point of contention in this thread seems to be that we are struggling to handle paced marathons versus championship style marathons. Kipchoge has proved himself at both. That's why he's easily the undisputed #1. After that some people are guessing Bekele (great paced runs) and Rupp (great championship runs) could be interchangeable in the second spot. They have very different marathon resumes because of the types of races they've run. Rather than insist on your mindset try to acknowledge why it's tough to compare them.
george oscar bluth wrote:
I've another question...
If it was December 2013 and Stephen Kiprotich just won the World Championships marathon, a year after winning the Olympic marathon, would he not be in your top 5 marathon runners rankings because his PR was only 2:07:20?
He would be, because there isn't a Kiprotich hate fan club on LRC. There are however people who show up to every thread to talk about how much they hate Rupp. Apparently he's ruining their lives or something.
Can’t believe it took you so long to find the list guys, here it is:
https://www.iaaf.org/records/toplists/road-running/marathon/outdoor/men/senior/2017
Galen is 108th.
Shoebacca wrote:
The central point of contention in this thread seems to be that we are struggling to handle paced marathons versus championship style marathons. Kipchoge has proved himself at both. That's why he's easily the undisputed #1. After that some people are guessing Bekele (great paced runs) and Rupp (great championship runs) could be interchangeable in the second spot. They have very different marathon resumes because of the types of races they've run. Rather than insist on your mindset try to acknowledge why it's tough to compare them.
+1
totally agree
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Here you go guys wrote:
Can’t believe it took you so long to find the list guys, here it is:
https://www.iaaf.org/records/toplists/road-running/marathon/outdoor/men/senior/2017Galen is 108th.
So I’m your world, the defending Olympic and World champion in the marathon wouldn’t have been in the top 50 marathoners in 2013. Great insight.
*in
Best post in thread so far is the guy who observed that Bekele ran a tactical 2:03 last year.
1. Mary Keitany.
2. Tirnesh Dibaba.
3. Edna Kiplagat.
4. Rose Chelimo.
5. Eunice Kirwa.
I like women wrote:
1. Mary Keitany.
2. Tirnesh Dibaba.
3. Edna Kiplagat.
4. Rose Chelimo.
5. Eunice Kirwa.
They can't even go under 2:16! Completely unknown amateur Italian kid---20yr old Alessandro Giacobazzi >>> Keitany
delusional rupp hater wrote:
Please explain to me how you think Rupp is only capable of 2:09 on a fast, rabbited course even though he ran 2:09 with a blistering 10k finish. That would be like if someone closed a 5:00 mile in 60 seconds and you argued they weren't capable of breaking 5 in an even paced race.
Reminds me of Island, saying his 5k PR is 15:xx even though he has yet to break 17. His reasoning is that at one point he was doing workouts that suggested he could run 15:xx. Except he hasn't.
Same with Rupp. I don't care if he has shown all the obvious potential in the world that he can run faster than 2:09. Until he actually DOES run faster than 2:09, he's a 2:09 guy. That's how it works.
Here you go guys wrote:
Can’t believe it took you so long to find the list guys, here it is:
https://www.iaaf.org/records/toplists/road-running/marathon/outdoor/men/senior/2017Galen is 108th.
He's definitely better than 108th. I'd give him at least top 50-60.
Parker Stinson. wrote:
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2) Parker Stinson
3) Parker Stinson
4) Parker Stinson
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They would have believed you if you had listed your name only 4 times.
Letsacknowledge wrote:
Best post in thread so far is the guy who observed that Bekele ran a tactical 2:03 last year.
Valid.
Until anyone else proves that they can be part of the 2:03-low club, then the 2:03-low guys have to occupy the top spots.
After that, I think that head-to-head match-ups and consistency should determine order among medalists vs. time-trialers.
My choices:
1.) Kipchoge
2.) Bekele
3.) Kipsang
4.) Geoffrey Kirui
5.) Galen Rupp
With another win or fast-ish time, I think Kamworor vaults himself into the #5 spot.
ouch....... wrote:
Until he actually DOES run faster than 2:09, he's a 2:09 guy. That's how it works.
That is not how it works. Until he actually runs the time, then his PR doesn't change. But he can still be a xxx guy. For example, runner A is a 2:06 guy with a 2:10 PR.
trails for life wrote:
Letsacknowledge wrote:
Best post in thread so far is the guy who observed that Bekele ran a tactical 2:03 last year.
Valid.
Until anyone else proves that they can be part of the 2:03-low club, then the 2:03-low guys have to occupy the top spots.
After that, I think that head-to-head match-ups and consistency should determine order among medalists vs. time-trialers.
My choices:
1.) Kipchoge
2.) Bekele
3.) Kipsang
4.) Geoffrey Kirui
5.) Galen Rupp
With another win or fast-ish time, I think Kamworor vaults himself into the #5 spot.
Thanks, I'm the guy who said it. I'd like to add that he beat Kipsang in that tactical 2:03. And that 2:03 was just seconds from being a 2:02. Rupp is a great runner but he has done nothing on that level yet.
Ifu wrote:
ouch....... wrote:
Until he actually DOES run faster than 2:09, he's a 2:09 guy. That's how it works.
That is not how it works. Until he actually runs the time, then his PR doesn't change. But he can still be a xxx guy. For example, runner A is a 2:06 guy with a 2:10 PR.
I see. So even though Rupp hasn't run anything faster than a 2:09, he's a 2:06, or 2:05, (or whatever) guy in your mind?
What universe do you live in? lol
In your example, runner A is a 2:10 guy. Period. End of story. Not only is that his PR, that is also "what he is." He is a 2:10 guy. He hasn't run 2:09, 2:08, 2:07, 2:06, 2:05, 2:04, 2:03, or 2:02. I don't care if he covered the last 5 miles of a 2:10 marathon in 20 minutes. He is a 2:10 guy, and always will be until he actually crosses the finish line of a marathon in a faster time than 2:10.
... you can say runner A has the POTENTIAL to run 2:06. I'm more than fine with that. But until he does, he's a 2:10 guy.
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