Corporate Nike sent out tweet congratulating Rupp but nothing for Shalane. Payback for comments?

rojo wrote:

codaayyee wrote:

Chicago is a Nike race, New York is a New Balance one...

This could be it. From a legal standpoint, are they not allowed to tweet out something they don't sponsor? Remember when Oiselle was getting trouble for tweeting at the Olympic Trials?

Wasn't that because they were blurring sponsors logos and inserting their own?

Something along those lines.

John Utah wrote:

broken arrow wrote:

NIKE only cares about one thing - $$$$$$$$$$$$. They are not nice, they support dirty athletes as long as the river of $$$$$$ is coming in.

Call me crazy, but when I own shares in a company I generally like to see said company care about $$$$$$$$. Crazy I know!!!!

If it means "$$$$" without regard to ethics, the Golden Rule, and sustaining life on Earth, yes it is crazy.

Big riff with Nike and Flanagan after Shalane's post Chicago comment. Nike social media focused on Kevin Hart today.

What comments did Shalane make...? Honestly curious.

when was this wrote:

What comments did Shalane make...? Honestly curious.

Her response when asked about Chicago:

"That program, the NOP has been under investigation for the last two years," Flanagan said in a conference call with reporters ahead of November 5's TCS New York City Marathon, which Flanagan and Keflezighi will run. "So as a fan of my own sport, it's hard to have full excitement and faith when you don't know all the facts yet. There's still an investigation going on so it's hard to truly and genuinely get excited about the performances that I'm watching.

"And I think it's really important to consider who you associate with. We don't get to choose our parents, but we certainly get to choose our friends and our coaches and who we want to include in our circle and put our faith and our trust in. I think it's really important to think about who you include in your professional circle in this sport, and I think that who you choose to allow in says a lot about you."

Completely accurate and reasonable way to answer the question but bullies want to skewer her for it.

sanchobaile wrote:

Nike posted pictures of both Shalane and Kamworor today on Instagram, along with an ad for the Zoom Vaporfly 4%. Noticeably, neither of the pictures are from the race. The pictures out there of Shalane breaking the tape don't have any visible NB logos in them, but I guess it's still reasonable to assume that pictures of the NYC finish line amount to promoting a competitor's event.

It's not a question of the photos having New Balance in them. Likely, the photos of the event can't be used for marketing purposes without permission of the NYC marathon. I'm sure the photographers sign something saying this.

Now the marathon is on the streets of New York so legally someone could stand on the side of the road, take a photo of Shalane running, and give it to Nike and Nike might try and use it (it wouldn't be a finish photo), but the athletes might also sign a waiver saying they won't allow their images from the race to be used for marketing. I doubt the latter is actually done, but it might.

Short answer-image and licensing rights are why Nike didn't send out the congratulatory instagram post with race photos.

How on earth did it take 3 pages for the most obvious, and correct, answer to finally be posted. I imagine Oiselle would be have been tweeting almost immediately to point out Nike's hypocrisy if they have tweeted pics about Shalane winning the race...

Did Nike tweet a picture of Kipchoge winning Berlin?

John Utah wrote:

broken arrow wrote:

NIKE only cares about one thing - $$$$$$$$$$$$. They are not nice, they support dirty athletes as long as the river of $$$$$$ is coming in.

Call me crazy, but when I own shares in a company I generally like to see said company care about $$$$$$$$. Crazy I know!!!!

Impeccable logic

"Hard to imagine a clean athlete dusting all these “dirty” athletes. Either the doping doesn’t work, or Shalane, past her prime, at 36 is superior or we have huge gray zone micro dosing issues"

If she was running a huge PR then I too would be suspect. But 2:26 is not worth being suspicious about.

rojo wrote:

codaayyee wrote:

Chicago is a Nike race, New York is a New Balance one...

This could be it. From a legal standpoint, are they not allowed to tweet out something they don't sponsor? Remember when Oiselle was getting trouble for tweeting at the Olympic Trials?

I think that is absolutely the case. I'm sure Nike would leap at the chance to promote their brand as the shoe that just broke a 40 year drought in our countries biggest city. Shalane didn't rip Nike after all, she blasted NOP. Athletes call each other out all the time.

PeteMesquite89 wrote:

rojo wrote:

This could be it. From a legal standpoint, are they not allowed to tweet out something they don't sponsor? Remember when Oiselle was getting trouble for tweeting at the Olympic Trials?

I think that is absolutely the case. I'm sure Nike would leap at the chance to promote their brand as the shoe that just broke a 40 year drought in our countries biggest city. Shalane didn't rip Nike after all, she blasted NOP. Athletes call each other out all the time.

The smarter thing for Nike is to promote the future, Jordan Hasay. Jordan has a much bigger fan base because she is cute and kind.

Wreckloose wrote:

Gray Zone Gary wrote:

Hard to imagine a clean athlete dusting all these “dirty” athletes. Either the doping doesn’t work, or Shalane, past her prime, at 36 is superior or we have huge gray zone micro dosing issues.

Dopers don't necessarily dope all the time, especially with the heat being turned up on Kenya and Ethiopia. They may have decided to run this one "raw". And BTW 36 is a prime age for the marathon for someone with track speed.

Dude 36 isn’t the prime age for any physical activity that’s just nonsense

Hayduke wrote:

Wreckloose wrote:

Dopers don't necessarily dope all the time, especially with the heat being turned up on Kenya and Ethiopia. They may have decided to run this one "raw". And BTW 36 is a prime age for the marathon for someone with track speed.

Dude 36 isn’t the prime age for any physical activity that’s just nonsense

36 is old for every activity but Golf. aka crying Desi.

Maybe shalane requested a lifetime contract w/ Nike like Joanie and Paula have & maybe Nike said no. Hence why she feels comfortable speaking out against nop bc she knows she won’t be w/ Nike much longer.? Also may have added extra fuel to the fire for this marathon to prove to Nike they fucked up.

No way Nike bribed anyone to throw the race - for if that ever became known it would kill the firm.

It's far more likely that others could have bribed the top runners to throw the race (ala Black Sox) due to big bets against Mary Keitany winning, or for Shalane winning. The key would be for investigators to watch her or her family's bank accounts before/after this marathon for large deposits that appear unrelated to racing or sponsorships.

Fanagan wrote:

Maybe shalane requested a lifetime contract w/ Nike like Joanie and Paula have & maybe Nike said no. Hence why she feels comfortable speaking out against nop bc she knows she won’t be w/ Nike much longer.? Also may have added extra fuel to the fire for this marathon to prove to Nike they fucked up.

Nike didn't f-up - I like Shalane, but if I worked for Nike I wouldn't put her in the "lifetime" contract category - esp after her post-Chicago comments. Much more potential in backing Hasay over the next 10 years and lifetime, than Flanagan.

BTW, just as a point of anecdotal evidence, my HS girls team all knew who Jordan was before Chicago and have been following her instagram, etc. But only a couple had ever heard even heard of Shalane prior to Sunday. Just sayin...

Anything for a buck wrote:

Nike is scum. They are just trying to figure how they can capitalize on this situation without lifting Shalane's status. The true definition of corporate greed.

Truthfully, the NOP crew will burn in hell eventually. I can't wait.

Thank you Shalane for showing us that it is possible without shortcuts.

“So as a fan of my own sport, it’s hard to have full excitement and faith when you don’t know all the facts yet. There’s still an investigation going on so it’s hard to truly and genuinely get excited about the performances that I’m watching."

Its hard to truly and genuinely get excited about Shalanes performance. Watered down field. Disrespect to other successful athletes. She aint welcome in Portland anymore.

Nike sponsors the Chicago Marathon and therefore had much more flexibility to place photographers and post content catered to their standards. NYC Marathon isn't as simple with competing sponsors.