Trump to wife of fallen Green Beret 'Well, I guess he knew what he signed up for, but I guess it still hurt"

a) They're clearly backtracking from "here's what happened", and

b) They're clearly spinning this into "Trump fighting", when he was clearly just defending himself from another fake news story.

Nice try, douchebaags.[/quote]

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/10/trump-la-david-johnson-widow-troops/543240/

The family confirmed the House Rep.'s version of the call. I believe Trump actually said it, but thought it was a big compliment because he is so emotionally tone deaf. He probably meant to say something like "your so was so brave and honorable to volunteer to serve his country knowing that he would as a marine be called to sacrifice his own life for his country and the greater good of humanity". But it came out as "He knew what he was getting into when he signed up", which sounds more like "hey, don't blame me, it was his job to get shot and killed."

This whole thing stinks and just about everybody should be ashamed of themselves. Trump had no business trashing Obama by making false or misleading statements about how he handled similar matters, and the left is even more disgraceful in attacking Trump's failure to convey sympathy appropriately. What the hell is a democratic congresswoman doing listening in on speaker phone on a call like that?

Four young men made the admirable commitment to serve and lost their lives. Acknowledge the service and sacrifice, and pick another opportunity to take your next political cheap shot.

Trump made a tactless comment, but certainly because Trump is a horrible president and a horrible person we see everything he does or say through that filter. What Trump did and said was not unAmerican and does not mean he shouldn't call families of soldiers killed in action. It was insensitive but it wasn't really that big a deal.If Obama said exactly the same thing, 'Well, I guess he knew what he signed up for, but I guess it still hurt" it wouldn't have been a story at all. Right?

On a related issue, I am 100% sure Trump lied about not saying it and about having proof that he didn't say it.

These soldiers aren't heroes.

Trump likes soldiers who weren't killed.

luv2run wrote:

What gets me even more is his claim that neither Obama or Bush contacted families of fallen soldiers. He might want to read (wait, he does not read anything except Twitter) Dana Perino's book and the part about the mom of the soldier in Walter Reed who lit into Bush and Bush's reaction.

I found the link from the Guardian story linked above.

I still can't get over how insecure Trump is. "Hey I call all the soldiers who died under me, others didn't". Do what you think is right, not because you want a pat on the back.

Man Overboard wrote:

Flagpole wrote:When a President calls someone like that, there are only two reasons to ever do it...give amazing gratitude for his service and try to offer some sort of comfort if at all possible.

No doubt Trump was trying to do exactly that.

Which do you really think is more likely: Trump was making a point about the bravery of the soldier in signing up for such a risky job, or that Trump really just wanted to blame the soldier for his own death?

Can't wait for the transcript to be 'leaked'.

I do not disagree that Trump was TRYING to do the right thing, because he does care about his own reputation (and not one bit about the families of fallen soldiers), but my point is that he is INCAPABLE of doing it properly. He is incapable of any and all duties of the President of the United States because he is completely incompetent to a degree that is not fathomable. Did he MEAN to tell this soldier's wife that her husband was partly to blame for the situation she now finds herself in? Probably not. BUT, he did do exactly that...again because he is an incompetent moron (and yes, I chose to spell it correctly despite the way here). He is a child.

Buy accepting the presidency Trump accepted that someone might try to assassinated him. I guess he would feel the pain then.

True Hero McCain wrote:

Did he say sorry I like people who weren't captured? Senator John McCain is the last Repub candidate who holds the true values this nation strives for. I'd love to see him run in 2020.

McCain is 81 years old with recently removed brain cancer. Dude...you don't want to see him run.

wejo wrote:

luv2run wrote:

What gets me even more is his claim that neither Obama or Bush contacted families of fallen soldiers. He might want to read (wait, he does not read anything except Twitter) Dana Perino's book and the part about the mom of the soldier in Walter Reed who lit into Bush and Bush's reaction.

I found the link from the Guardian story linked above.

http://dailysignal.com/2015/04/21/why-george-w-bush-let-a-soldiers-mom-yell-at-him/

I still can't get over how insecure Trump is. "Hey I call all the soldiers who died under me, others didn't". Do what you think is right, not because you want a pat on the back.

Come on Wejo (I am encouraging you here, not the other way around)! Woo Hoo! Keep getting how insecure Trump is...he is so insecure it is insane...probably clinically. He has narcissism that has never been equaled here in the US by a President...not even close. He can never look at a situation and say, "We can do better, or I can do better." He can never just take a task on and do it without taking someone else down first who (according to him) didn't do it as well as he did. Someone in this thread called him a 12-year-old...that is too kind. I have seen 8 year olds with better sense, and I'm sure there are those younger than that who have better sense than he does. He is absolutely CRAZY. The world is in peril with this man at the helm. Know that he is not really a Republican...anyone with strong Conservative Republican values should NOT vote for him again. I hope you won't. I don't believe he will still be President at the next election (impeached, resigned, or 25th Amendmented), but in the small possibility that he is, you just can't vote for him...just can't. He is a dictator in the making...strongly going after the 1st Amendment...it wouldn't take much for him to go after No. 2. BUT, the thing of it is, he isn't doing any of this with a right mind. He is not a rational human being. Dude is a loon.

President Trump is a winner and he likes winners. He knows he has to make the warm fuzzy gesture, but this guy was a loser. He wasn't smart enough to get out of army service, like President Trump, and he wasn't good enough to survive. Much like how he doesn't like people who were so bad at their job as to get captured by the vietnamese, he doesn't like people who are so bad at their job that they get killed doing it.

We need winners in our armed forces. Not losers.

First Wilson is a liar now are you saying the dead soldiers mom is a liar. Hey dumba$$....everything bad about 45 is not Fake News.

Sooo, we have a President who has expressed his countless appreciation and admiration's for our soldiers, and made the veteran's a pillar of of his Presidency, and you believe that he would say this garbage?

Yes, you are a victim of fake news... i.e. propaganda

Congressman Anthony Weiner wrote:

Whereas a President Clinton would have blamed their deaths on some infowars or breitbart video, and then told the victims' families, "no big deal; just get over it!"

Actually she would never have said that. You might guess that's what she's thinking, but no she would never say that. It would just be your own projected thoughts. Trump actually said it

Ft5666hgdeu7 wrote:

While Obama said Americans are all stupid and lazy, as he gave hundreds of billions to Iran. You'd certainly be making excuses for him if he said what Trump said. Do you leftists have any standards at all?

Amen

XY wrote:

Trump actually said it

Prove it. But, you can't. So, YOU project that he said it, as fact.

Great job, useful idiot.

Old man Trump telling it like it is. He likes soldiers who don't get killed.

HE DIDN'T READ THE SCRIPT.

dont get killed wrote:

Old man Trump telling it like it is. He likes soldiers who don't get killed.

I think it was "captured" ... he likes soldiers that don't get captured