Utah: mormon and non-mormon schools

Delusional people wrote:

Anyone who plays football is an idiot, regardless what religion they are.

Stupid remark👎And it's college football that supports these less popular sports such as XC. Without the revenue that the football teams generate, these programs would cease to exist! They don't bring in any revenue and most people could give a sh*t about them. So, for you college XC runners - when you see the networks loaded with FBS games and venues packed with 90,000+ fans, you best be thanking the Bama's, Duck's, Buffalo's, Badger's, etc., football programs that fuel your XC gig! 😉

Football brings in the dough wrote:

Delusional people wrote:

Anyone who plays football is an idiot, regardless what religion they are.

Stupid remark👎And it's college football that supports these less popular sports such as XC. Without the revenue that the football teams generate, these programs would cease to exist! They don't bring in any revenue and most people could give a sh*t about them. So, for you college XC runners - when you see the networks loaded with FBS games and venues packed with 90,000+ fans, you best be thanking the Bama's, Duck's, Buffalo's, Badger's, etc., football programs that fuel your XC gig! 😉

This is a fallacy that must stop. There might be a few colleges that raise more revenue than cost. But many cost the school money.

In addition colleges are very wasteful with what resources they do have. I know that some colleges house the entire team of 150 or so lunks into hotels the day before a HOME game. How much does that cost us and would it help out the other struggling sports if they transferred the money there instead.

Cross Country costs next to nothing and is the least costly sport.

OldManWinter wrote:

In addition colleges are very wasteful with what resources they do have. I know that some colleges house the entire team of 150 or so lunks into hotels the day before a HOME game. How much does that cost us and would it help out the other struggling sports if they transferred the money there instead.

Cross Country costs next to nothing and is the least costly sport.

Bro, those schools make huge money on broadcast contracts and they have to burn it up somehow. It's a pro sport that doesn't have to pay athletes.

Stop thinking like a penniless runner who most likely, pays to run, or get paid pennies to run.

OldManWinter wrote:

This is a fallacy that must stop. There might be a few colleges that raise more revenue than cost. But many cost the school money.

In addition colleges are very wasteful with what resources they do have. I know that some colleges house the entire team of 150 or so lunks into hotels the day before a HOME game. How much does that cost us and would it help out the other struggling sports if they transferred the money there instead.

Cross Country costs next to nothing and is the least costly sport.

Do you have any evidence to back up your assertions? No, I didn't think so...you're clueless on this subject...imagine that. 😅. And XC doesn't cost next to nothing as there are scholarships involved with both XC & TF! Who the heck pays for that? Try the revenue from the football programs! Do yourself a favor and read this article:

Here's an excerpt from the article:

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"But instead of receiving payment for their talents right now football and men’s basketball players see the revenue they produce spent on scholarships for other athletes, those in sports where the market would never pay for them to exist. *So every other sport on a college campus, whether it’s men’s and women’s tennis or swimming or soccer, exists thanks to the money produced by football and men’s basketball.*"

Football brings in the dough wrote:

Delusional people wrote:

Anyone who plays football is an idiot, regardless what religion they are.

Stupid remark👎And it's college football that supports these less popular sports such as XC. Without the revenue that the football teams generate, these programs would cease to exist! They don't bring in any revenue and most people could give a sh*t about them. So, for you college XC runners - when you see the networks loaded with FBS games and venues packed with 90,000+ fans, you best be thanking the Bama's, Duck's, Buffalo's, Badger's, etc., football programs that fuel your XC gig! 😉

That’s not true for the vast majority of schools. Most football programs lose money. Football may bring in a lot revenue but even more goes out the door on football expenses. Last time I checked I didn’t see any XC coaches making millions.

Cougar Country wrote:

FredGSanford wrote:

Jim McMahon completed his BYU degree in 2014 despite CTE, dementia, a severe percocet habit and smoking weed daily.

Nice try BYU hater! McMahon wasn't LDS...he was Catholic. 😉. Btw, the University could hardly wait to get rid of him after he graduated early! (his successor was Steve Young, decedent of *Brigham Young,* and my favorite BYU QB of all time! 👍). BYU recruits on occasion non-LDS players whom some have gotten into trouble over the years...imagine that.

Go Cougars!

Tell us about Max Hall. He was/is LDS.

Delusional people wrote:

Anyone who plays football is an idiot, regardless what religion they are.

Football brings in the dough wrote:

Stupid remark And it's college football that supports these less popular sports such as XC.

Without the revenue that the football teams generate, these programs would cease to exist! blah blah blah

See, more proof of my post.

John Utah wrote:

That’s not true for the vast majority of schools. Most football programs lose money. Football may bring in a lot revenue but even more goes out the door on football expenses. Last time I checked I didn’t see any XC coaches making millions.

Not correct Johnny Utah...it is true for many schools in the Power 5 conferences! And each conference has multiple tie-ins with the networks (e.g., PAC-12 --- FOX & PAC-12 Network, SEC --- CBS, ESPN & SEC Network, etc.). Last weekend EVERY freaking game from the Power 5 conferences was televised! (CBS, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPN-U, FOX, FOX Sports1, CBS SPORTS...plus the conference's own networks).I didn't see any XC meets televised? Why? Perhaps no viewership interest? 😁. And those XC coaches aren't making peanuts! Granted, they're not making millions, but they're not under the same pressure to win like the football coaches are, especially at the big-time programs.🏈

1. Amateur sports are not intended to be a profit center. They are funded by the school. Do any high school sports make money? No, but they are all still there.

2. Do some research. The vast majority of football programs lose money. If you see something that says otherwise then there is some Enron-type accounting going on. Remember that there are something like 120 d1 schools. Also, most of the p5 schools are not Ohio State, Texas, etc. there are more Kansas type schools in p5 than usc type schools.

Also, even at the big time schools, their expenses are over the top. Totally over the top.

John Utah wrote:

1. Amateur sports are not intended to be a profit center. They are funded by the school. Do any high school sports make money? No, but they are all still there.

2. Do some research. The vast majority of football programs lose money. If you see something that says otherwise then there is some Enron-type accounting going on. Remember that there are something like 120 d1 schools. Also, most of the p5 schools are not Ohio State, Texas, etc. there are more Kansas type schools in p5 than usc type schools.

Also, even at the big time schools, their expenses are over the top. Totally over the top.

You absolutely make no sense at all Johnny Utah.🤔 The non-revenue sports (e.g., XC, T&F, wrestling, volleyball, etc.) have to be supported by the revenue making sports which are only football & B-ball. For example, all of Nebraska's non-revenue sports lost dough last year (imagine that) and only the football team made revenue...which is supporting these non-revenue making sports. Better thank the Husker faithful that sells out 85,000 seat Memorial Stadium every fall Saturday.

And you're wrong Johnny Utah; a lot of FBS programs have made revenue. And the lower tier P5 schools for football (e.g., Kansas...that you pointed out) get revenue sharing from the bowl games that other teams from the conference go to. Go to a BCS bowl and that's a big payday for the conference. And besides, Kansas B-ball is one of the nations top programs (who would have thought) and brings in some revenue.

Newsflash: FBS football continues to support & SAVE the non-revenue making sports...nothing new there.

Dude, not true. The vast majority of the athletic departments are in the red. Go back 50 years before there was much of any money in football and basketball. There were still lots of other sports. The expenses were funded by the schools. The chemistry department doesn’t make money yet there it is.

Cougar Country wrote:

Only BYU...as in Brigham Young University 👍 (bet you didn't know that the famous retired 49er QB Steve Young is a direct decedent of Brigham Young 🤔). BYU is a private college that was founded, and is operated by the LDS Church. The others are public institutions independent of the LDS (though a lot of Mormon students attend these colleges).

I like Cougar country: the BYU campus is spectacular, and Provo is beautiful. This is a wonderful place to get an education...not a lot of trouble with alcohol & drug consumption (forbidden) that plagues so many campuses around the nation.

Go BYU Cougars! 😆

you misspelled "decadent"

do love those Utah cougars though: all those neglected wives on the prowl while their fake pious Mor-men practice polygamy with younger women AND men alike-- which would be fine if not for the gross hypocrisy etc.

Verdict: more Cougar love, vastly less "God".

plug ethyl merman wrote:

you misspelled "decadent"

do love those Utah cougars though: all those neglected wives on the prowl while their fake pious Mor-men practice polygamy with younger women AND men alike-- which would be fine if not for the gross hypocrisy etc.

Verdict: more Cougar love, vastly less "God".

You posters that point out grammatical errors on *informal* discussion forums crack me up. They've even done research on people like you:

You must either be a school teacher on fall break or a Mormon hater, or both.😉

Big Man On Campus wrote:

plug ethyl merman wrote:

you misspelled "decadent"

do love those Utah cougars though: all those neglected wives on the prowl while their fake pious Mor-men practice polygamy with younger women AND men alike-- which would be fine if not for the gross hypocrisy etc.

Verdict: more Cougar love, vastly less "God".

You posters that point out grammatical errors on *informal* discussion forums crack me up. They've even done research on people like you:

https://www.sciencealert.com/people-who-constantly-pick-up-grammar-mistakes-are-kinda-jerks-scientists-find

You must either be a school teacher on fall break or a Mormon hater, or both.😉

someday we'll be cougars

BYU ranked as the safest college campus in the U.S. 👍👏🙄

http://www.businessinsider.com/safest-college-campuses-in-america-2016-1/#2-summit-university--clarks-summit-pa-24

Echoing what he already been stated...

If it's in Utah it's a Morman school... end of discussion...

Everything in Utah revolves around the three magic sky wizards, some guy named Joe, and a handful of odd practices...

Not safe from being brainwashed.

Who can ya trust? wrote:

BYU ranked as the safest college campus in the U.S. 👍👏🙄

http://www.businessinsider.com/safest-college-campuses-in-america-2016-1/#2-summit-university--clarks-summit-pa-24

Who can ya trust? wrote:

BYU ranked as the safest college campus in the U.S. 👍👏🙄

http://www.businessinsider.com/safest-college-campuses-in-america-2016-1/#2-summit-university--clarks-summit-pa-24

If you aren't a Mormon and thinking of moving to Utah, I have one word of advice : don't . Seriously, don't. Your life will be hell. The goal of every Mormon is to convert non-Mormons. They are such total conformists that they can spot any one who isn't LDS. You will spend your life having strangers coming up to you acting fake friendly and then started taking about Joseph Smith and looking in his hat at his magic rocks. And it will happen multiple times each day. If they know where you live, they will come back again and again and again. Then 6 months later they will come back. Then 6 months they will be back again. They don't take a hint, they don't take no for an answer. Cute girls will flirt with you but only to get you to convert. Your doctor will advise you to go to the temple. Strangers will compliment you on your hat, your dog, your watch.... then bring up Bringham Young. You will become suspicious of the ulterior motives of all people. All because you moved to a Utah.

How easy is it to get laid by a hot Mormon chick?

They can't all stay virgins till their wedding night.