Wouldn't call it a 'good showing', but looking at his summer training and Crim race it'll be interesting to see what he does in his next marathon. Seems reasonable that he could run 2:12 next time.
First, after Crim (50:43), 1;06 way too ambitious for 1st half.
2nd, after whatever injury he had, his summer progressed fairly well, with a decent mix of training, but only getting in three 20 mile runs. Suspect that the positive Chicago split was just lack of fitness.
At least he is clean. He seems down to earth and he will become better. Beautiful campus --> Depauw
NYC can't get here fast enough.
There is a drastic lack of understanding around these parts, it will be good to see a legit race and another pile of fast times set down in 2017. Because ... when it comes to US marathoning, there's US marathoning, and there's everyone else.
a'pokf';sldkf'sd;l wrote:
Stoppit Smith wrote:A lot of Americans did well in Chicago, but I wanted to spotlight the very eclectic and interesting Noah Droddy here.
After a 1:06 half and a 2:16 finish, he shows a LOT of potential to be a real contender at this distance.
Since he is newer at this, I think his finish was a great debut for him.
Plus, it will be great to have runners like Noah Droddy on the marathon circuit. It's a refreshing change.
Way to go, Noah
Great run, but no chance he gets much below 2:12. You don't break 2:10 if your debut is 2:16.
2:16 is amazing for most, but not relevant to become a factor internationally.
KAWRONG Hahaha!
Grasshopper, you have not done your homework on this statistic!
Great question.Personally, the respect for Droddy comes from so many things that are right for the purity of running:1. Droddy never lost his humility despite being good2. Droddy has a great sense of humor.3. Droddy is willing to stay true to himself even though most focus is on the bigger-named athletes4. Droddy is willing to work hard to succeed even though he went to a smaller school.5. He is proof that you do not need to look a certain way, act like a king, talk major crap or have popular coaches to succeed.For those of us who have been passed over because are were not attractive enough, rich enough or whatever intangibles people wish to throw in our way,it is nice to see someone who is taking success with enough ability such that nobody can or will keep him back.Now, do you really want to trample on that?
feed the troll scraps wrote:
I'm confused, you posted a link to when he ran a 14:36 and a 29:41 to explain that he is not a no name.
While those are respectable times they by no means represent the collegiate track background of someone you would look at to become a break out star internationally. If anything I would say that further proves my point of his limited upside because of how more can he realistically expect to improve at this point and time. He has a long ways to go to close the gap on someone like Derrick who has run 27:31 or Chelenga who has run 27:08, both of whom beat Droddy in his debut.
As for the splits argument. If you can't understand how picking up roughly 20 seconds a mile is staggeringly significant at Droddy's level than you are beyond help. I'm not sure what you infatuation with him is considering many people seem to be fans solely because of his appearance with his hair but I imagine you are at the least the president of his fan club.
The past:
Paula:
Half Marathon: 1:05:40
Marathon: 2:15:25
The future:
Noah:
Half Marathon: 1:01:48
Marathon: 2:07:27
Same ratios.
Im unsure why he is claiming it is his debut. He DNF'd at the 18 mile mark of the Olympic Marathon Trials so that was his debut for the marathon. Chicago was his 2nd marathon.
It does not matter what he claims.It was a good showingSee: title of thread
Droody Drod wrote:
Im unsure why he is claiming it is his debut. He DNF'd at the 18 mile mark of the Olympic Marathon Trials so that was his debut for the marathon. Chicago was his 2nd marathon.
It does not matter what he claims? Your delusional!
2 starts: 1 DNF and 1 x 2:16.
Unsure how you get thats a "good showing for him?"
Now a good start for Chris Derrick? absolutely.. Good bounce back for Aaron Braun? yes.. But 19th and second marathon in 2:16 isn't a good showing and I am sure he would admit that too. It was solidish.
I saw the title of your thread, I'm just clarifying it for you.
Clarifying what?Those who praise Derrick, Arciniega, Rupp, etc. can do so freely.This thread is about what I view as a great showing in Chicago.This is not about a debut.This is not about a DNFBut he is new to this scene and it was a great run. Furthermore, I do not have to apologize for a thread on droddy to any runners, sponsors, or supporters.This one is for Noah. This thread. And to have this thread is.....wait for it....completely okay!!!!☺
Droody Drod wrote:
It does not matter what he claims? Your delusional!
2 starts: 1 DNF and 1 x 2:16.
Unsure how you get thats a "good showing for him?"
Now a good start for Chris Derrick? absolutely.. Good bounce back for Aaron Braun? yes.. But 19th and second marathon in 2:16 isn't a good showing and I am sure he would admit that too. It was solidish.
I saw the title of your thread, I'm just clarifying it for you.
You can write as you see fit, it is your thread. You can give your opinions as you see fit, it is your thread. But you said it was a great debut. It was not a debut, and it was not that great of a run. Can he improve, yes! Does he have the potential to be better, yes! But you wanted to cast a spotlight on something you said was a great debut performance, and it wasn't.
Now wait for it... it is completely ok for someone to not agree with what you wrote. And for the record, I think he is great for the sport but this is not about his personality but his race which you wanted to draw attention to. His run was solid with a lot of improvement possible.
But why would you fight so vividly and vehemently for what you think are facts about his race in a thread whose theme is clearly to praise and spotlight Droddy's performance??It is like going to a party and making the host uncomfortable because you do not like the decorations.It is like going to a parade and saying a band sucks because you do not like the repertoire.I firmly believe two things..It was a good showing and the time and pacing were good.Pressure does not make me quit.Dissenting opinions don't make me quit.Therefore, you have three choices, really...Keep arguing for your point and get my continual counterpoints, ignore this thread, or make your own naysayers thread about your view on Droddy's run.That is how real life works, and even if it isn't, that is how I work.
Droody Drod wrote:
You can write as you see fit, it is your thread. You can give your opinions as you see fit, it is your thread. But you said it was a great debut. It was not a debut, and it was not that great of a run. Can he improve, yes! Does he have the potential to be better, yes! But you wanted to cast a spotlight on something you said was a great debut performance, and it wasn't.
Now wait for it... it is completely ok for someone to not agree with what you wrote. And for the record, I think he is great for the sport but this is not about his personality but his race which you wanted to draw attention to. His run was solid with a lot of improvement possible.
It is great that you have an opinion, Smith. Your opinion only shows that you are a casual fan of the sport, with very little understanding elite racing.
Your opinion means squat because it isn't based on knowledge. Your opinion is based on your feelings, which are ignorant of reality.
th3bt wrote:
Your opinion is based on your feelings, which are ignorant of reality.
The only way to change reality is to be ignorant of it.
You're right, the more I think about, the splits are not even. Even splits are 1:06/1:06 = 2:12. I see now that 1:10 second half is slowing down quite a bit.
I see. So, the way you will try to win is by faking my post?I do not give you this point.It is easy to play like this because anyone can type 'stoppit smith' and type like I do. However, I, Mike from San Marcos,CA, the real 'stoppit smith' will take to the grave the notion that 1:06 and 1:10 are basically even splits no matter what any of you and your friends, dogs or what have you say or do.The more I think about IT ( the real stoppit smith would never have forgotten this valuable object pronoun), the more I know I am right.
Stoppit Smith wrote:
You're right, the more I think about, the splits are not even. Even splits are 1:06/1:06 = 2:12. I see now that 1:10 second half is slowing down quite a bit.
I wrote this with an appreciation for Noah Droddy.Other threads that I may make or join are for others.My feeling is that Droddy had a good showing in Chicago.It is all I required to make this thread.Does this boorish nature so many of you have actually work to have people's conviction of thought wrested away from them??
th3bt wrote:
It is great that you have an opinion, Smith. Your opinion only shows that you are a casual fan of the sport, with very little understanding elite racing.
Your opinion means squat because it isn't based on knowledge. Your opinion is based on your feelings, which are ignorant of reality.
You are really thick.
If you think Noah ran a great race; you are correct. If you think he has a great future; you are right. If you think he has a great future inthe sport; you are right. I am glad you feel that way.
If you think 66 minutes and 70 minutes are even splits for an elite runner in a marathon; you are wrong. That is objective fact. If that hurts your feelings, that is your problem.
My ability to run 6 seconds slower than the world record for 100 meters does not make me a world class sprinter. Remember that close only counts in certain circumstances.
Noah had trouble at the end. The clock doesn't lie. Believe want you want, but don't expect to be taken seriously when you display such amazing ignorance of the marathon.
And way to derail your own appreciation thread. Your insistence of your uninformed opinion being correct is parhetic.
Some typos, but the last one was really bad. Pathetic was the word I wanted to write.