another moran wrote:
A whole thread devoted to a question born out of ignorance, because some poor schmuck has never heard or read serious discussions about some of analogous privilege experiences?
Hopefully the OP can learn something and shed some of his ignorance.
Great argument.
Physically attractive people have amazing privilege over those who are not. And it a privilege that is accepted by people as OK.
Is white privilege good or bad? As an African, it sounds like something good and makes me want white privilege, but the tone around it kind of makes it seem negative.
Epiphany wrote:
Physically attractive people have amazing privilege over those who are not. And it a privilege that is accepted by people as OK.
Yes. It's kinda bizarre how nobody ever really mentions this, despite the impact it makes. Assumptions about friendliness, how hardworking you are, intelligence, leadership qualities, etc. are all noticeably better if you're attractive. I feel guilty with what it's possible to get away with sometimes...
Even though the 15th Amendment was ratified in 1870, blacks were essentially denied voting rights until the 1960s. The 1960s. Within my lifetime. And that's just talking about basic civil rights. If you don't understand how that plays into this conversation, then you're being ignorant or, worse, deliberately obtuse.
Old and whie wrote:
Even though the 15th Amendment was ratified in 1870, blacks were essentially denied voting rights until the 1960s. The 1960s. Within my lifetime. And that's just talking about basic civil rights. If you don't understand how that plays into this conversation, then you're being ignorant or, worse, deliberately obtuse.
^This. Agree. But many LRC conservatives (like Mr. Disco) seem to somehow think that the facts you mention are a "re-writing" of history taught by biased public schools. The are seriously ignorant and/or racist.
The current president is a perfect example of white privilege. No one from any minority class would be elected if he
- Bragged about grabbing womens vaginas
- Sexually referenced his own daughter
- Made fun of a disabled person
- Said prisoners of war are not heros while he himself was a draft dodger
- Took a purple heart after being a draft dodger.
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Where 4chan becomes reality wrote:
There are people who fit the negative SJW stereotype that you're setting up as a strawman
That said, it's a shame people have to be exposed to your piss poor logic
For one, there are certainly other 'privileges' than white privilege. And those privileges are often addressed, by people genuinely interested. For example, ableism addresses some of the stuff you being up. I know you're not actually interested in thinking or debating, but there are some people out there whose souls resemble something other than wrinkled taints with year old dingleberries dangling off them
Secondly, white privilege is a big deal in America, mainly because of chattel slavery, lynching, Jim Crow, segregation, white supremacy, red-lining (refusing to let blacks live outside dense urban areas, refusing to give mortgages to blacks), war against drugs (funneling crack and coke into black communities and then jacking up jail sentences and putting 1/3 of a black males into prison), etc etc etc
Yes, black immigrants to the US often disagree with African Americans. They hate black lives matter and stuff like that. Yes, Irish and Italians and Chinese and Japanese and Philipinos and Koreans and and Mexicans and Eastern Europeans were also discriminated against by land-owning capitalist whites and their Anglo or Dutch or German buds.. but guess what.. chattel slavery was a big freaking deal. Being raped, forced to breed, having your baby ripped away and sold to another state, etc.. then eventually being freed by people who still see you as inferior.. then being let loose but given practically no land, literally given no money, not allowed in schools or businesses because you're assumed to be inferior, being blamed for rapes when whites are just as likely to rape as you, being blamed for domestic violence when whites are just as violent to their women, being blamed for drugs when whites do just as many drugs as you..
White privilege is the deep deep internalization of ignorance and dismissal towards these historical facts that are not that far back in history at all. Your whole worldview is based on a life that does not involve being treated like African Americans have been treated in the USA. Why don't blacks live in suburbs? Why can Trump talk about them doing violence in urban areas? Well, it's never mentioned that blacks were systematically prevented from living in those areas. Not allowed. Not allowed in the schools. Not allowed to get the mortgage. Not permitted to move up in the workplace. Not just in Alabama. In Pittsburgh. In Chicago. In Portland Oregon.
White privilege is blaming blacks for their plight, which is what you are doing. Sure, some people DO need to stop blaming society and start making better decisions. Angry talk about white privilege can be divisive and can hurt solidarity. But shame on you and letsrun for promoting this garbage thinking.
Try being a chattel slave family for a few generations and then come talk to us about all you know about being white or black in america and how it influences your mind. White privilege is about having a mind and a worldview that doesn't happen to take on-the-ground social reality into account. Congratulations, your worldview is trolling garbage.. you are worthy of promotion on letsrun.com
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Boom STTTANKKY wrote:
Yeah, but that's all wrecked by the idiot asshollles who live out there.
East Coast and Midwest, all day, every day.
Dude.
I agree totally dude wrote:I am really surprised that there is not more discussion of West Coast privilege. Those of us who have grown up on the West Coast have had the advantages of sun, surf, technological superiority, craft beer, superior locally grown weed. The list of advantages over flyover country and the cold, crumbling, overcrowded East are too extensive to list.
We should have a department of fairness to correct these imbalances.
Mudhen wrote:
We should have a department of fairness to correct these imbalances.
Sure, how about quotas for everything in life. Keep crying in your milk, puddle jumper.
justthefacts wrote:
Mudhen wrote:We should have a department of fairness to correct these imbalances.
Sure, how about quotas for everything in life. Keep crying in your milk, puddle jumper.
Yeah, I was kidding.
But I bet a bunch of these SJW types would go for such a ridiculous thing as they get triggered by the world around them.
Of course there are different privilege types. But if you mad a Venn Diagram of US:
The wealthy are almost all white.
Most Jewish people are white. This circle largely overlaps the above.
The classic definition of attractiveness in the US is white.
Joplas wrote:
The current president is a perfect example of white privilege. No one from any minority class would be elected if he
- Bragged about grabbing womens vaginas
- Sexually referenced his own daughter
- Made fun of a disabled person
- Said prisoners of war are not heros while he himself was a draft dodger
- Took a purple heart after being a draft dodger.
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+1 imagine if President Obama did any of these things.
NERunner053 wrote:
Joplas wrote:The current president is a perfect example of white privilege. No one from any minority class would be elected if he
- Bragged about grabbing womens vaginas
- Sexually referenced his own daughter
- Made fun of a disabled person
- Said prisoners of war are not heros while he himself was a draft dodger
- Took a purple heart after being a draft dodger.
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+1 imagine if President Obama did any of these things.
Imagine a white person being a community organizer with no experience whatsoever in anything being President. It would bever happen.
Mudhen wrote:
NERunner053 wrote:+1 imagine if President Obama did any of these things.
Imagine a black person being a many-times bankrupt businessman with no government experience whatsoever being President. It would bever (sic) happen.
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exthrower wrote:
Old and whie wrote:Even though the 15th Amendment was ratified in 1870, blacks were essentially denied voting rights until the 1960s. The 1960s. Within my lifetime. And that's just talking about basic civil rights. If you don't understand how that plays into this conversation, then you're being ignorant or, worse, deliberately obtuse.
BS....Blacks were not denied the right to vote until the 60's....Voting was made more difficult for a small number of them in the deep south....
Once again, your racism is showing. Also, your reading comprehension sucks.
LM wrote:
Epiphany wrote:Physically attractive people have amazing privilege over those who are not. And it a privilege that is accepted by people as OK.
Yes. It's kinda bizarre how nobody ever really mentions this, despite the impact it makes. Assumptions about friendliness, how hardworking you are, intelligence, leadership qualities, etc. are all noticeably better if you're attractive. I feel guilty with what it's possible to get away with sometimes...
Along those lines, we're likely to have a President who's female, Hispanic, Asian, or gay, etc some day. Yet I doubt we'll see one with crooked teeth, awkwardly high-pitched voice, 5'2" (male), etc.
Agree...but LRC conservatives wrote:
Old and whie wrote:Even though the 15th Amendment was ratified in 1870, blacks were essentially denied voting rights until the 1960s. The 1960s. Within my lifetime. And that's just talking about basic civil rights. If you don't understand how that plays into this conversation, then you're being ignorant or, worse, deliberately obtuse.
^This. Agree. But many LRC conservatives (like Mr. Disco) seem to somehow think that the facts you mention are a "re-writing" of history taught by biased public schools. The are seriously ignorant and/or racist.
Then call it something other than "white privilege". By call it white privilege you're shaming and dividing one group into purposefully disadvantaging themselves which is bad for many reasons.
If the issue is the residual of a history of racism, call it "black historical disadvantage". Stop shaming white people.
HardLoper wrote:
Along those lines, we're likely to have a President who's female, Hispanic, Asian, or gay, etc some day. Yet I doubt we'll see one with crooked teeth, awkwardly high-pitched voice, 5'2" (male), etc.
Trump is half-Asian. Just look at his face and hardon for Asian women like Melania.
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