Which school do you go to? I go to J L Mann. Riverside is losing majority of their top runners this year and next year. They're a very top heavy team. If you look at their varsity 5-6 of them are seniors. Riverside will fall either this year or next year.
I live in New York State, so yeah...I’m in section three, with FM and Liverpool. Class D has Tully, Class C, my class, is honestly the weakest one I think. Marcellus is in our league and class, everyone loses to them, but they’re not at the same level as the bigger schools.
The more important question in my mind is, which HS programs produce runners who have the most success AFTER high school? Very often those will not be same programs.
Mostly will be the same. Since you are asking the question, who are some of the schools that you are referring to?
American Fork boys won almost every state meet since 2009
Pappy wrote:
I'm not going to count but York of Elmhurst in Illinois has won around 50% of the state meets since the early 60's.
They’ve been struggling to make it to NXN and win a state title since 2012.
A year ago York got 6th at state with 6 seniors in their top 7, so with all these graduations, this year on paper York was expected to finish lower.
But instead, York placed 4th this year at state and 3rd at NXR without a single senior in their top 7. Look for them to get another
state title and NXR title next year.
Yes, there is a large correlation.
Jesuit has dominated the Oregon girls title for years but, I think Summit is poised to takeover for the foreseeable future.
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Greatest xc team in the history of the world bar none.
Great oak in California. Though the wheels kinda fell off the girls team this season. I think more incoming talent will start choosing to go to Vista Murrieta because they have a coach who is more interested in athletes than trophies.
In New Mexico Gallup HS.
Spokane Rift Valley wrote:
the just lost their first state title in 11-years!
Correction, they just lost their 2nd consecutive title to Kamiakin, who may be the next dominant WA team.
Piedmont boys from Oklahoma
http://www.ohstrack.com/ccresults2018/ccstateedmond5a102718.htm
Wayzata is legit wrote:
Wayzata boys won a majority of the Minnesota state meets since 2007.
They also have the best JV team in MN just about every year.
For many years, a team of #8-14 Wayzata runners would have been ranked in the top 10 in Minnesota when comparing it against all of the Varsity teams at other schools.
At Milaca and Griak, Wayzata boys had the lowest finishes we’ve seen from them at least in a while at regular season meets. They lost their top 7. Their top returner (last year’s Wayzata’s 8th runner at NXR) has yet to race this season. Quite a rebuilding year for them.
rhodeislandrunner wrote:
Rhode Island has been dominated by 2 schools. Lasalle academy and bishop hendricken. the state championships the last 10 years have gone: 2017 BH, 2016 LSA, 2015 LSA, 2014 LSA, 2013 BH, 2012 BH, 2011 BH, 2010 BH, 2009 BH, 2008 BH. both teams look to be very good this year with hendricken being one of the top ranked in the northeast and lsa right there with them
My dad ran at Pilgrim in the late 60’s. Said Hendrickson was really good back then and they didn’t like them. Found his letter jacket in the attic and it had 3 state championship patches on it. Went and checked and sure enough, they won 3 in a row. Asked him about it. He said, “I said they were good. Didn’t say they beat us.”
Looked at my dad a little different after that day. Badass.
Hendricken. Sorry, autocorrect got me
3200y5000 wrote:
Piedmont boys from Oklahoma
http://www.ohstrack.com/ccresults2018/ccstateedmond5a102718.htm
Oh please, one year a domination does not make.
Now Deer Creek had a streak of absolute domination in the 5A class for a few years there until they got bumped to 6A and Every few years Jenks pulls a Dynasty out of their hats (though they clearly aren't there at the moment)
Deer Creek sure looks like something special in 6A right now though with 5 guys in the top 25 through all divisions within the state.
The Woodlands and Southlake Carroll boys usually end up being the best teams in Texas no matter how many seniors they lose.
Last year The Woodlands and SLC returned barely any of their top 7 and Woodlands won state and SLC got second. This year SLC made NXN for the 10th time in a row and won state.
What about 2017 when Bartlesville DROPPED THE HAMMER and won both boys and girls races at the state meet. Girls won from 2015-17 and guys from 2017-18.
Formula
Great coach who generates lots of participation in XC (which tracks down to the feeder middle schools) in a large middle to upper middle class suburban schools. Numbers game. Pull in lots of athletes, and with success more athletes want to run XC. Fun culture. Snowballs from there.
All about numbers