Official 2017 USATF Outdoor Nats Day 3 Live Discussion Thread

Gernandam wrote:

Montesquieu wrote:

Really? Isn't his PR 3:36.04 and the standard 3:36 flat?

3:36.2

3:36.2 was last year's Olympic Standard. 3:36.0 is for London, but his 3:53 low at Boston indoors got him the standard equivalent for the mile. He really came out of nowhere in this race though, I thought Engels had it in the bag for sure. However I did watch him beat Robby at Penn in an 800 last week so his wheels are on point this season for sure.

The only successful doubler so far has been Huddle.

So Gregorek gets in because of the indoor mile, and Blankenship gets in because of 3:53.04 in May? Is that right?

Man, I wanted Engels to nab that third spot so bad. If Andrews doesn't run the standard and Engels does, would Engels go to London?

Rankingwhere wrote:

How on earth does Blankenship finish 5th-6th or so at the Olympics but finish 12th at USA's? Things aren't adding up. Yes there are bad days but I'm sorry I'm not the type to call for doping but that Olympic race is way out of the ordinary for him. Afraid to see his name come up and getting suspsended.

Slow down, buddy. Sure he could doping at Rick James levels, but your reasoning is ridiculous. First of all, he was 8th in the OG final--in 3:51. 3:51!!! Anything can happen in a race that slow, anyone who navigated the rounds was in with a shot once the pace went out a high school pace; the 1500 is pretty easy to screw up, not as easy as the 800, but definitely doesn't always go according to form (ask El G); rounds play a significant role; honestly, I doubt he's as amped up on track after making the OG final, this is a guy who came back to the sport a couple years ago after giving it up. He's not medalling at a global championship, OG final was the peak of possible.

Rockgip wrote:

Man, I wanted Engels to nab that third spot so bad. If Andrews doesn't run the standard and Engels does, would Engels go to London?

That's usually how it works.

Rankingwhere wrote:

How on earth does Blankenship finish 5th-6th or so at the Olympics but finish 12th at USA's? Things aren't adding up. Yes there are bad days but I'm sorry I'm not the type to call for doping but that Olympic race is way out of the ordinary for him. Afraid to see his name come up and getting suspsended.

His problem isn't doping; he problem is dope. As in, "He is a dope."

Sadly, this just isn't an unusual race for him. He loves to go hard early. Unfortunately, it almost never pays off, he ends up at the back of the pack.

HardLoper wrote:

joho wrote:

Blakenship made the move that set Robbie up for the win. I was waiting for Centro to take control with 200 to go but he couldn't handle the long kick.

Yes, I wonder how fast the penultimate 200m was. Blankenship killed his own race and probably took the sting out of Centro's finish too

Centro was too stubborn in holding the lead for the 300m or so until he finally let Blankenship past. Granted, Blankenship is basically the only guy on the world stage willing to make a move like that.

But at some point it's not worth letting others force you to surge like that. Andrews back in 3rd-7th probably held a pretty even pace all the way whereas Blankenship cooked and Centro had no sprint left.

Probably was actually the best strategy for Blankenship, given he was up against guys like Murphy, Andrews, and even Engels - was Leo in there too? - who can all kick with anyone. He got a 5 meter jump on them but the rounds were probably too much and he misjudged it. I think he and Centro ran it like they would run an open race, and it was difficult to tell how much they'd have left after racing the previous days.

LOL click Gregorek's name in the results and his dad's PRs come up.

http://results.usatf.org/2017Outdoors/

joho wrote:

Blakenship made the move that set Robbie up for the win. I was waiting for Centro to take control with 200 to go but he couldn't handle the long kick.

Those blocking the field tactics are bad sportsmanship.

the old college try wrote:

Efraimson, should have gone to college, this is not the same experience. Sure she will run some fast times, but she will not have the meaningful victories a top college athletes experiences. She will never be part of a team and a big win. Never be All-American, just not the big deal. Money would have come anyways.

Banana Sam wrote:

Who the heck is Sara Vaughn?

Sarah Ensrud if I remember correctly. Gering, Nebraska track legend.

Any idea what's wrong with Murphy? Why the limp?

Rockgip wrote:

Man, I wanted Engels to nab that third spot so bad. If Andrews doesn't run the standard and Engels does, would Engels go to London?

Ah, gotta love the WC standard game of musical chairs..

I think that you only get to chase if you're top 3. So if Andrews doesn't get it, then the spot would go to Blankenship (who ended up second to last, just ahead of DFL Murphy, the only other guy in the final with the standard).

I couldn't agree more. Not here to debate if there is a God or Gods, etc., but I'm pretty sure a supreme being has better shit to do than be invested in getting you top 3 in a race to be able to do another race... smh. God isn't favoring you, you're just more talented/worked harder/raced smarter/got luckier than the other competitors.

However, when they are thankful for the ability to run, and live in a place where they can pursue sports etc. regardless of the outcome, then that's fine by me.

I'm glad Andrews won wrote:

joho wrote:

Blakenship made the move that set Robbie up for the win. I was waiting for Centro to take control with 200 to go but he couldn't handle the long kick.

Those blocking the field tactics are bad sportsmanship.

sanchobaile wrote:

I think that you only get to chase if you're top 3. So if Andrews doesn't get it, then the spot would go to Blankenship (who ended up second to last, just ahead of DFL Murphy, the only other guy in the final with the standard).

Not this year:

The top 8 place finishers in events at the USATF Outdoor Track & Field Championships, who have not achieved the IAAF World Championships Qualifying Standard for that event, may “chase” the standard until midnight July 21, 2017.

Is Really Sick Of wrote:

I'm really sick of these winners and qualifiers thanking God. Yeah, I'm sure his "plan" extends to who gets the top three in a track race.

He watches over me in such a way that not a hair can fall from my head without the will of my Father in heaven.

Some People Must wrote:

Vaughn's the happiest moment of the championships so far. Frankly, I didn't know she was still in the game. After all these years, to have this payoff.

On the track for the later finals. Simpson so classy after the race talking to Sara. She was as happy for Sara as herself. Coburn passed out several waters to competitors and. Saw her sign at least thirty autographs.

Both mobbed in the media zone. More men and women like them who care as much for the sport as their own performance. Great ambassadors.

I wish I could say the same for a certain 400 runner who was an ass after finishing off the podium. Total selfish dick.