Brodey Hasty 4:01.75

Without any doubt. The proof is in years’ worth of results.

However, they are really playing different ball from other schools in the TSSAA Large School division, and that’s not ok when they are actually participating in TSSAA events and representing Brentwood High. Those schools agree to adhere a set of rules that the private coaches don’t have to adhere to.

I like the model that Avery’s group used this year, competing all over the place during the XC and track post season and indoor at USATF and NSSF “club” events. Hard to argue that’s unfair to anyone.

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All true statements and were proven in a 15 week investigation at the county with signed documents by said "volunteers". It's over. Just trying to clean up the rest of the mess. We will see how they rebuild their programs without the influence of being on the coaching staff that fed their club business. I think the numbers are dwindling. I know Avery has lost a few to graduation and a few to the school team. He is down to a handful of runners.

And then what was not vastly publicized in the media was that the investigation was admittedly biased and poorly conducted and the superintendent admitted that behind closed doors. However, the private coaches moved on in another direction.

That is why it continues with Kinder.

Anyway, do what you feel you need to do. Not many really care about this here . It’s only one or two people arguing over this , just changing their names.

Good luck.

Gary Kinder has done nothing but give to the BHS program, even buying much of the equipment, poles and hurdles with his own money. The school should be thankful he gives his time. He led fundraisers, willingly gave his time, and helped on average of 3 Williamson County athletes per year get a scholarship they otherwise would have not gotten. With as poor as HS track programs are undercoached and underfunded, it takes parents and men like Gary to step up. He could also choose to do other things with his personal and professional time, but he doesn’t. Check my username and you will see exactly who I am and will deduct who my son is. Also, why slander a great coach on a college coach board amongst his peers he helps to attract to Williamson County athletes....unbelievable. One time I ought to go on your professional LinkedIn group and slander you in front of your peers. And for how parents spend choose to spend our money- what’s it to you? Also, if Gary earns 6 figures (which nobody has any idea what all his expenses are)- that is the minimum of what it takes to live in Brentwood and attend Brentwood schools...he deserves every red cent. He and his wife both are elite individuals that develop others to greatness. Gary always coaches BHS kids voluntarily that are not helping fund his program. Do you know what BHS ever paid him for his time? I bet if you asked Gary or Any of their administration, you would be amazed. Careful what you wish for- he (and his kid with 35-50 points) will end up at BA or Ensworth...and BHS would never even score points at the state meet. Gary Kinder is a fine man doing whatever he can within the rules (yes, within the rules) to help push along the sport. Also, Brodey Hasty- keep killing it. Love watching you compete. We are all cheering for you!!

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I am glad your son from BA enjoyed his private training at the BHS facility. That was with the previous AD at the helm and allowed a system of for- profit businesses to operate out of the school facility. Kinder could become a coach at the school? And make what other public school coaches make? And most people in the community are more interested in a team to compete on and have fun than watching the private coach's son get points at state meet. I honestly don't think most people care about a state championship won with an unlevel playing field. Once again, you miss the point. But these are the county rules and every other school seems to abide by them. Except Brentwood High....

So a kid from BA trains with a private coach 2 years ago on the BHS track while that private coach is on the BHS roster as an assistant track coach??? Wow! How screwed up is that? Not only is the privately paid track coach shooting fish in a barrel at Brentwood high school to pay him to train as an assistant coach, he is allowed to train kids from other schools on the BHS track. Why not just let him operate his private club from the beautiful Brentwood Academy Track? Oh, because BA would never allow a private coach to make a living on their awesome million dollar track. But BHS will. Interesting.....,,

Trust me, as a Brentwood resident, I personally paid more than my fair share of property taxes (and personally donated enough of BHS poles and track equipment) to justify any time spent there by my sons. Same with Coach Davies, who volunteered many hours of his time at BHS track while also helping as a BA coach over many years. Careful on spouting off on what you think you know... Second, if you think private coaches are an issue, then you mind as well start getting on private trainers in all sports like Basketball (many BHS boys/girls trained at Ensworth by the way), Football (which, yes we do train yalls kickers and many others that come over to train with Ramsey’s dad and others). Think BA doesn’t allow BHS distance runners on our facilities over the years? I can assure you I have seen them more than once. As for Gary, I am not even going to comment. He is his own man, and BHS is fortunate to have him (and his family) around their facilities in whatever capacity they can. Arguably the best at what he does anywhere- he does what he does out of loyalty to many at that school- whether they deserve it or not. Also, if you knew what BHS ever even paid Coach Kinder, you wouldn’t even be talking. Anyhow, we look like fools talking local business on a national board. Give me a shout, and look me up on LinkedIn- we will have lunch in Brentwood. Cheers! Oh, since this thread has Hasty’s Name on it- I would be remiss if I didn’t say (again)...keep killing it young man and all your teammates that pursue excellence however they can get it. If the public school system limits your ability to get your college future lined out- then there are many ways in USATF and AAU to get the recognition and performance times needed.

Also, you think other “rule following” Williamson County public school athletes (especially Ravenwood, Independence, Franklin, Centennial) didn’t train at BHS? Check The Kindersport webpage scholarship list you will see it is very diversified across the board. Also, why whine about BHS’ facility- that track is an awesome place to train, mostly because Gary Kinder led the fundraising and did most of the work himself out there. Why even live in Williamson County if you don’t try to set the bar at the highest levels anywhere in the country- that is why we moved here. It is a shame when people try to take away one’s ability to succeed and gain a competitive advantage within the rules. It is why I get up every day, go to work and earn money....so that I can Gain a competitive advantage for my family and those we love. What are we going to go after next- SAT prep classes- since they give an advantage versus the others? Summer Camps? Let’s go after the AAU club basketball teams. How about the DC Dance Studios, D1 sports that are giving cheerleaders and dance programs an advantage. I personally think we got a slice of heaven here- and I just don’t see how anyone that chooses to live in 37027- would care a bit about a level playing field in academics or sports.

Wow, buddy. Self-focused much? There’s a whole state outside of Williamson County, and none of the rest of the state has the aggregate resources you have. Rules apply to everyone, even to you.

Did anybody receive any TSSAA sanctions? The people that sets the rules are the TSSAA and no rules were broken. As for self focused, maybe- but if someone attributes my son’s 11 individual state titles (or BHS winning a state title on the shoulders of Kinder’s son) to breaking any rules- then I will respond with my personal opinion. If that makes me self-focused, then maybe I am. Big difference between breaking TSSAA rules and whether someone disagrees with how an athletics program is run. Some counties and programs know how to win more than others. In the same breath, Elite track and field has never been a sport of facilities or resources- it is about hard work, intelligent training, and focus.

Also, I don’t think we are buddies since I am the only one that has the courage to not post anonymously. I respect your opinions- but my view is just to show the other side. You seem like a passionate guy about track- which I always like to meet. My man Gary is the best though!

We have somewhat of a similar issue up here in Washington State where you have HS school soccer and Select soccer. Obviously high school soccer is not nearly as competitive as a select team. Sometimes you have certain select soccer teams that request that their players do not play HS soccer and only play for their club. Of course these coaches of the select teams are paid coaches and usually don't have relatives or family members on the teams. The schools themselves do make a lot of money in renting out the fields, including lighted fields, to the various organizations and clubs that use them.

Oh, and one other thing. Now that the Powell's have left Oregon and have come up to the University of Washington I would hope that Brodey Hasty would reconsider his situation and possibly consider enrolling at the UW. I did meet Brodey, very briefly I might add, but he came across as a good kid. Would love to see him up here at the UW with the Powell's.

I know many of the same people you know, but, yes, “buddy” is just an expression.

Gotcha- sorry, wasn’t familiar with the slang. Come find me sometime- confident we can have a fruitful conversation. Gotta 9th grader coming up- so hopefully will be at some of the same meets.

Gary Kinder coaching at Ensworth private school and transferring his son from Brentwood? Rumor or true? Interesting.,.i guess he couldn't build a clientele to pay him without being a "volunteer" at Brentwood. I wonder if Brentwood High School will allow a private school coach to come to the Brentwood track to train his private club? And is it still a non profit if Kinder is taking a salary from Ensworth? This just gets better with time! Knowing the Brentwood principle, he will. I hear Keidel has Tennesse Titans season tix. Wait a minute....doesn't Gary Kinder's wife work for the Titans?