Cas Loxsom no longer a Beast?

Or Ashton.

Wait. Oh, ok. My bad.

Cas Loxsom cried after failing to break the state record in the 1k at his conference meet. He even refused to shake hands with his competitors. My son was in that race and I've never had any respect for that shitbag ever since.

I'll agree with your #'s but if you are going to post #'s to determine the success of each group then you should include all #'s to be fair. I'll estimate team salary as best I can to provide a little more clarity. You pay for medals

BTC: 1.5-2 million

ORPJT: 2-2.5 million (not counting the $$ they spend on resources for the team)

OTC: 1.2-1.5 million?

BB: 600-800k?

Then you should also add how many years the club has existed to be fair for development-

BTC: 9 years?

ORPJT: depends on how far you go back but they had the bubble house in 2004 so 12 years?

OTC: 11 years

BB: 4 year

Just helps to have all of the date if you are going to use data.

Data points wrote:

I'll agree with your #'s but if you are going to post #'s to determine the success of each group then you should include all #'s to be fair. I'll estimate team salary as best I can to provide a little more clarity. You pay for medals

BTC: 1.5-2 million

ORPJT: 2-2.5 million (not counting the $$ they spend on resources for the team)

OTC: 1.2-1.5 million?

BB: 600-800k?

Then you should also add how many years the club has existed to be fair for development-

BTC: 9 years?

ORPJT: depends on how far you go back but they had the bubble house in 2004 so 12 years?

OTC: 11 years

BB: 4 year

Just helps to have all of the date if you are going to use data.

TAKE THAT FOR DATA

KrisKrinkle wrote:

Cas Loxsom cried after failing to break the state record in the 1k at his conference meet. He even refused to shake hands with his competitors. My son was in that race and I've never had any respect for that shitbag ever since.

Wow. Can't believe you call your son a shitbag over a HS race. Great parenting.

Data points wrote:

I'll agree with your #'s but if you are going to post #'s to determine the success of each group then you should include all #'s to be fair. I'll estimate team salary as best I can to provide a little more clarity. You pay for medals

BTC: 1.5-2 million

ORPJT: 2-2.5 million (not counting the $$ they spend on resources for the team)

OTC: 1.2-1.5 million?

BB: 600-800k?

Then you should also add how many years the club has existed to be fair for development-

BTC: 9 years?

ORPJT: depends on how far you go back but they had the bubble house in 2004 so 12 years?

OTC: 11 years

BB: 4 year

Just helps to have all of the date if you are going to use data.

I have no idea if any of those numbers are accurate and neither do you. But I will also say that you put runners like Loxom or Symmonds on any of those Nike teams and I would bet they make the team. Hell Symmonds made the team every year until his first full year with Brooks. For someone like Loxom, with his speed, not to make that 800 team every year is rediculous.

How do you figure he make the team each year? There are studs in all of these programs that never work out and all have huge credentials. Greer? Fernandez? Fleet?

When Nick left the OTC he was 30

in the no wrote:

KrisKrinkle wrote:

Cas Loxsom cried after failing to break the state record in the 1k at his conference meet. He even refused to shake hands with his competitors. My son was in that race and I've never had any respect for that shitbag ever since.

Wow. Can't believe you call your son a shitbag over a HS race. Great parenting.

No I was referring to Cas

KrisKrinkle wrote:

in the no wrote:

Wow. Can't believe you call your son a shitbag over a HS race. Great parenting.

No I was referring to Cas

No, we all heard what you said. You said "my son was in that race and I've never had any respect for that shitbag ever since." Whatever Loxsom did, there's really no reason to blast your son about the whole thing.

in the no wrote:

KrisKrinkle wrote:

Cas Loxsom cried after failing to break the state record in the 1k at his conference meet. He even refused to shake hands with his competitors. My son was in that race and I've never had any respect for that shitbag ever since.

Wow. Can't believe you call your son a shitbag over a HS race. Great parenting.

Best laugh I've had today. And I read the Top Ten Marathon Tips thread.

we heard you say it wrote:

KrisKrinkle wrote:

No I was referring to Cas

No, we all heard what you said. You said "my son was in that race and I've never had any respect for that shitbag ever since." Whatever Loxsom did, there's really no reason to blast your son about the whole thing.

I was actually very proud of my son thank you very much. He set a PB and then tried to congradulate the winner of a the race. A true show of sportsmanship. Unlike Cas, he's never been kicked off a team -- no surprise there.

Will someone please confirm the Cragg/uceny/Hastings love triangle?

Scott Tenorman wrote:

Will someone please confirm the Cragg/uceny/Hastings love triangle?

Yea. Look at Hastings' current last name.

sults wrote:

Scott Tenorman wrote:

Will someone please confirm the Cragg/uceny/Hastings love triangle?

Yea. Look at Hastings' current last name.

Also mentioned (albeit "reportedly") in this RW article:

Brooke and Cas are both being very, very clear to say it is "not drug or alcohol related."

So it probably is?

Brooks does say he broke "team conduct rules" on several occasions.

Knowing something about HR, this sounds like talking around someone having issues with drinking/partying but the employer not wanting to hang the dismissal on those grounds. (Risk of libel, implication of employer duty to provide support, etc.)

I should not bite because this board is a wasteland but I cannot stand the errors...Cas and Symmonds both did make a team in 2015.

The year before both Loxsom and Katie Mackey podiumed.

Mackey also coaches Justine Fedronic, injured for

2 years before joining. Then broke 2:00 and made the Rio team . He also coaches that NZ gal (Angie Petty) who ran 1:59 and made the Rio team.

Brie Felnagle was last in the 2012 Trials before joining. She was up and down there, but PR'd and made a US team with him.

Garrett Heath joined at the end of his career and got way better there.

He's gotten people like Riley Masters that were never an all-american to 13:17 in the 5k.

Nike trolls are out in full force today! Come on people. Lol.

what it is wrote:

Brooke and Cas are both being very, very clear to say it is "not drug or alcohol related."

So it probably is?

Brooks does say he broke "team conduct rules" on several occasions.

Knowing something about HR, this sounds like talking around someone having issues with drinking/partying but the employer not wanting to hang the dismissal on those grounds. (Risk of libel, implication of employer duty to provide support, etc.)

Call me crazy but it sounds like they want to keep people from jumping to a reasonable conclusion of it being drug or alcohol related because it's not.

KrisKrinkle wrote:

Cas Loxsom cried after failing to break the state record in the 1k at his conference meet. He even refused to shake hands with his competitors. My son was in that race and I've never had any respect for that shitbag ever since.

Just because your son lost, it doesn't make him a shitbag. You must be the worst, least supportive parent ever.

As for Cas, he got kicked off the beasts for dating/hooking up with the girls on the team.

Parenting 101 wrote:

As for Cas, he got kicked off the beasts for dating/hooking up with the girls on the team.

Does that make him a hero to all the people on Letsrun not doing this? Letsrun should sponsor him.