Kenenisa Bekele disses Mo Farah and Galen Rupp: "Times are very important,"

You know he did wrote:

Bekele ran 12:37 and 26:17. There are literally billions of human beings. How come nobody has come even close?

What does the population of Earth have to do with this?

Do you know how probability works? Do you know what the law of large numbers is? No? Oh ok, I was just wondering.

Watchin wrote:

What are you Ruppsters going to say after London, when Rupp's best time is something like 9 minutes behind the world best?

Facts

Still the slowest marathoning sub-27 10K runner.

Um, ever hear of Zersenay Tadese?

Watchin wrote:

What are you Ruppsters going to say after London, when Rupp's best time is something like 9 minutes behind the world best?

Facts:

Ran away from Meb in the trials. Big whoop.

Faded in the Olympics.

Faded at Boston.

Still slower than Rodgers was in 1975.

Still slower than Clayton was in 1967.

Still the slowest marathoning sub-27 10K runner.

Can't judge him by time from 3 non paced races.

Still, he needs to a big win that isn't in a domestic race and over a masters athlete.

Ihhihi wrote:

You know he did wrote:

Bekele ran 12:37 and 26:17. There are literally billions of human beings. How come nobody has come even close?

What does the population of Earth have to do with this?

I don't even have to check for the random letter handle anymore when question period starts.

In the 5000, Bekele is about 100m ahead of Mo and farther ahead of Galen. In the 10000, he's about 150m ahead. In the marathon, he's more than a mile ahead of both of them.

So he's not only better than them, he's even more better than ever before. He gets better and they get worse. He could run a 2:02 and neither of them will ever break 2:08.

bronze medal. second attempthe's not a marathon runner yet (he's by far best in USA), he was a 5k/10k guy. look at his times. he's only tried 3 marathons tooi don't think he'll ever run 2:04, but he's good at competing. like Farah. that's how it is these days, medals not times are what is importantyou think rupp and cetro will deny that they don't have the fastest times out there?! yet, they have gold, silver, bronze between themtimes don't matter in this little pocket of time. medals, brah

Watchin wrote:

What are you Ruppsters going to say after London, when Rupp's best time is something like 9 minutes behind the world best?

Facts:

Ran away from Meb in the trials. Big whoop.

Faded in the Olympics.

Faded at Boston.

Still slower than Rodgers was in 1975.

Still slower than Clayton was in 1967.

Still the slowest marathoning sub-27 10K runner.

Renato Canova wrote:

Never did you hear about his bad injuries, and the anticipated attempts to come back in 2010 and 2011 without proper preparation, fact that provoked new injuries ? After his deep injury in the calf at the end of 2009, Kenenisa

tried to come back on track, but after every training of speed using spikes had to stop more than two weeks before being able to run again.

Only when decided to cancel high speed and spikes, looking at marathon, he was able to restore a valid training.

The only drugs are the ones all people working in LR with their imagination go to take, in order to make real in their disturbed minds what they go to invent, without any foundation and against any evidence.

It is true that there's no evidence that Bekele doped. You have to understand why people are skeptical of amazing performances though, right? Especially those that happened 10+ years ago.

There have been so many doping scandals in the last few years - to say that people have "disturbed minds" for being skeptical of Bekele is taking it a bit too far.

That said, all of you being excessively mean to Canova are jerks.

It's hard to say if any specific runner is clean or dirty. I hope Bekele was and is clean. On the other hand, it's not hard for a certain coach to admit that EPO use is a problem in the countries that produce the most top runners or that even the best trained and most gifted runners would likely benefit from EPO use. Let's hope some top names did not use.As for the thread topic. It's an I nterestjng point of view but I prefer non- rabbitted races and am most impressed by Bekele's 2008 5000. It's not a record but a great performance.

No disrespect wrote:

Bekele is stating facts. There are easily 40 to 50 Kenyans and 40 to 50 Ethiopians faster than Rupp. Bekele is far better than Rupp and he must be frustrated at the attention and press Rupp gets. A 2:10 marathon is something Bekele can do in training and Rupp has never run faster.

I'm just stating facts

2 out of Rupp's 3 marathons have been championship style races. Bekele has never run a championship style race, only races where there were rabbits to go for a fast time. Rupp has never ran London, Dubai, Berlin or Chicago. Bekele has never ran Boston, specifically in mid 70 degree temps. Rupp has done a 20 mile tempo run at 2:07 pace in practice. Rupp has an Olympic medal in the marathon.

Paying attention wrote:

Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:

if Bekele gave up running in spikes, why did he spend US$1.5 million building his own track at his home just outside the Addis Ababa?

That was quite a few years ago, before he turned to the marathon.

Anyway he would still like to race on the track, but preparing to do so is not likely.

2012 or 2013 I think, he was injured in 2010.

You know he did wrote:

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Bekele ran 12:37 and 26:17. There are literally billions of human beings. How come nobody has come even close? How come nobody has come even close to Barry Bonds single season homerun record yet we continue to advance every year as human beings? Doping error. Don't be naive. Humans can and will continue to do anything they can to reach the top. Just because a "wise" coach like Renato won't agree and says differently doesn't mean that humans don't lie. Lance Armstrong. Marion Jones. Sumgong. And on and on and on and on

You don't understand athletics at all. By your logic, Bob Beamon must have used rockets in Mexico City.

I think this is great, Mo's moving up to the marathon, Galen's there, he's trash talking them as there will probably be loads of hype when Mo move's up. The sports needs stuff like this to make it exciting.

howie8 wrote:

You know he did wrote:

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Bekele ran 12:37 and 26:17. There are literally billions of human beings. How come nobody has come even close? How come nobody has come even close to Barry Bonds single season homerun record yet we continue to advance every year as human beings? Doping error. Don't be naive. Humans can and will continue to do anything they can to reach the top. Just because a "wise" coach like Renato won't agree and says differently doesn't mean that humans don't lie. Lance Armstrong. Marion Jones. Sumgong. And on and on and on and on

You don't understand athletics at all. By your logic, Bob Beamon must have used rockets in Mexico City.

Beamon was helped massively by the altitude of Mexico City, roids also began arriving in the sport around this time.

Bekele is not disrespecting anyone, its all in your head.

He is stating facts.

Most runners in the west are trying to "PR", all racing

is about winning period, and in the marathon you have to be ready to drop

a 2:06 at least.

No disrespect wrote:

Bekele is stating facts. There are easily 40 to 50 Kenyans and 40 to 50 Ethiopians faster than Rupp. Bekele is far better than Rupp and he must be frustrated at the attention and press Rupp gets. A 2:10 marathon is something Bekele can do in training and Rupp has never run faster.

Where exactly does Rupp get attention? In the local US press? In the LR threads?

Sayer of Um wrote:

Watchin wrote:

What are you Ruppsters going to say after London, when Rupp's best time is something like 9 minutes behind the world best?

Facts

Still the slowest marathoning sub-27 10K runner.

Um, ever hear of Zersenay Tadese?

Classic response- even nearly rhymes

Bekele is at another level than Salazar's epo-elf, I just like that Hall is also at another level than Rupp when it comes to distance

Watchin wrote:

What are you Ruppsters going to say after London, when Rupp's best time is something like 9 minutes behind the world best?

Facts:

Ran away from Meb in the trials. Big whoop.

Faded in the Olympics.

Faded at Boston.

Still slower than Rodgers was in 1975.

Still slower than Clayton was in 1967.

Still the slowest marathoning sub-27 10K runner.

The dude has run like 3 marathons...

He ran 3 seconds slower than Rodgers in his 3rd marathon vs. rodgers 6th marathon

You cannot tell me the few races he has done at this distance are a good representation of what he is capable of