Lance Armstrong handed defeat by federal judge

Beware Walter Mitty's wrote:

you're not A Duck are you?

Could be or just another wanker down in the basement fantasizing and playing with himself.

Dial it up wrote:

Beware pleasant entertainers. wrote:

In the democratic free world most crooks, liars, con men, whatever you want to call them, are pleasant and entertaining, how the feck do you think they survive?

Yea it could just be that he's a normal dude raising his kids and living his life or he's a psychopath with a current agenda against angry 20 minute 5kers from letsrun.

My friend you need to do a bit of research.

What are the characteristics of a psychopath?

Psychopaths display different traits depending on their disorder, but common signs include superficial charm, a grandiose notion of self-worth, the need for stimulation and impulsiveness, pathological lying, the ability to manipulate others and a lack of remorse and empathy.

Research wrote:

Dial it up wrote:

Yea it could just be that he's a normal dude raising his kids and living his life or he's a psychopath with a current agenda against angry 20 minute 5kers from letsrun.

My friend you need to do a bit of research.

What are the characteristics of a psychopath?

Psychopaths display different traits depending on their disorder, but common signs include superficial charm, a grandiose notion of self-worth, the need for stimulation and impulsiveness, pathological lying, the ability to manipulate others and a lack of remorse and empathy.

Yes, I'm familiar. I'm also not irrationally angry and triggered by every cyclist from the 90's who doped. Not saying you personally are but many on the thread are.

And the federal judge denied the government's motion for summary judgment. Both sides lost their bid to obtain summary judgement. Case goes to trial and jury.

Beware Walter Mitty's wrote:

Dial it up wrote:

Yea it could just be that he's a normal dude raising his kids and living his life or he's a psychopath with a current agenda against angry 20 minute 5kers from letsrun.

haha says the no name achieved nothing wannabe

yeah yeah we know you've competed in running at a higher level than 99% of the idiots on LR and now you're a cyclist

in your mind pal or out yourself so we can verify

you're not A Duck are you?

What does you stalking my personal life have to do with this topic?

My 20 min 5k comment stems from the truth that the larger the difference between someone's actual athletic ability and what they perceive themselves as being worthy of is, the more angry people get over others who are better than them. That's why you get so much anger over lance from turds on this thread but don't get it in places where the larger majority of people were or are good athletes.

xcrnrz wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1Z6xGu7oIQ

Hope the court gets to see that.

Jury especially.

Dial it up wrote:

Beware Walter Mitty's wrote:

haha says the no name achieved nothing wannabe

yeah yeah we know you've competed in running at a higher level than 99% of the idiots on LR and now you're a cyclist

in your mind pal or out yourself so we can verify

you're not A Duck are you?

What does you stalking my personal life have to do with this topic?

My 20 min 5k comment stems from the truth that the larger the difference between someone's actual athletic ability and what they perceive themselves as being worthy of is, the more angry people get over others who are better than them. That's why you get so much anger over lance from turds on this thread but don't get it in places where the larger majority of people were or are good athletes.

haha you're an idiot

"anger" lol

"What does you stalking my personal life have to do with this topic?" - huh

idiot

google:

Dial it up site:letsrun.com

select link

Ctrl+f

Find: Dial it up

seconds later...hey presto, not real hard even for an idiot like you

Tis easy, the man himself

"Then you don't know any real cyclists. I've run at a higher level than 99% on this site and now am a competitive cyclist and cycling is MUCH more difficult both physically and mentally."

Read more:

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=7779680#ixzz4YhxJIzk5

Yowsers wrote:

What government stuff did people buy? Cycling fans, who know about doping, bought team gear and do so for every team they like...even though they know there is doping.

Priority Mail, Express Mail, Parcel Post, etc. USPS competes against FedEx and UPS in package delivery. I supported the USPS services over FedEx and UPS in part because they sponsored a visible US sports team.

Dial it up wrote:

My 20 min 5k comment stems from the truth that the larger the difference between someone's actual athletic ability and what they perceive themselves as being worthy of is, the more angry people get over others who are better than them. That's why you get so much anger over lance from turds on this thread but don't get it in places where the larger majority of people were or are good athletes.

Talking about anger, you mad bro?

zzzz wrote:

I agree with Armstrong's argument that the USPS suffered no damages and got what they wanted in terms of exposure, so I hope he wins the court case. The USPS Cycling team was highly visible through those years, and certainly got the kind of attention that that kind of advertising aspires to. They certainly got way more advertising value from winning the TDF than if the USPS was a run-of-the-mill team. And they want ALL that money back? Free, top-level advertising for years?

I disagree.

I thought it was great that the USPS invested in advertising in a competitive market by sponsoring a US based pro cycling team. Better than advertising in Playboy or with billboards IMHO.

I did not mind so much paying a little more and more for stamps and packages. I liked supporting their service because I was supporting this team.

After one of the biggest organized doping programs ever was exposed, my confidence in the ability of the US Postal Service to make sound decisions was shaken. How could they be so unprofessional so as to be deceived? What was my money being used to support? Would my letter be delivered?

Would my packages be delivered in the empty briefcases of drug runners on the return trip?

I, for one, did not want to support cheating in sports. I felt deceived by the USPS. Given the choice, I started to use other methods of shipping and I will continue to do so.

I know I am just one person, and USPS has not/will not suffer $100 mil in damages because of me alone, but there must be others like me. Yes they benefitted from the positive exposure before things blew up, but long term the association with LA is a black eye and will cost them much more than they made.

More people know about and associate LA in connection with cheating than for winning. Cheating is a bigger story than winning. I do not recall him being in Oprah just for winning. Much more media exposure for drug use than for winning.

I believe responsible parties should be punished for their actions, especially when they egregiously deceive people to gain an advantage. I do not know if this can be factored in, but I would feel much better/more confident about using USPS if they are successful in making responsible parties accountable.

I believe that if USPS does not pursue this, it could indicate that they had knowledge of and condoned the actions of LA.

Beware Walter Mitty's wrote:

Dial it up wrote:

What does you stalking my personal life have to do with this topic?

My 20 min 5k comment stems from the truth that the larger the difference between someone's actual athletic ability and what they perceive themselves as being worthy of is, the more angry people get over others who are better than them. That's why you get so much anger over lance from turds on this thread but don't get it in places where the larger majority of people were or are good athletes.

haha you're an idiot

"anger" lol

"What does you stalking my personal life have to do with this topic?" - huh

idiot

google:

Dial it up site:letsrun.com

select link

Ctrl+f

Find: Dial it up

seconds later...hey presto, not real hard even for an idiot like you

Ironic.

Tis easy. wrote:

Tis easy, the man himself

"Then you don't know any real cyclists. I've run at a higher level than 99% on this site and now am a competitive cyclist and cycling is MUCH more difficult both physically and mentally."

Read more:

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=7779680#ixzz4YhxJIzk5

That's a factual statement. What does it have to do with this thread?

I think it's meant to show that you're a should be ignored fantasizing wanker who thinks nearly all posters on LR are idiots, but doesn't stop you from interfacing with those said idiots, which ironically you've been doing for years, so says something about you which you are yet to grasp. Sad middle aged never has been perhaps?

Q. "What does it have to do with this thread?"

A. That an idiot like you should be ignored, which I haven't done, but it's been fun.

It's been fun. wrote:

I think it's meant to show that you're a should be ignored fantasizing wanker who thinks nearly all posters on LR are idiots, but doesn't stop you from interfacing with those said idiots, which ironically you've been doing for years, so says something about you which you are yet to grasp. Sad middle aged never has been perhaps?

Q. "What does it have to do with this thread?"

A. That an idiot like you should be ignored, which I haven't done, but it's been fun.

Cute story bud.

Dial it up wrote:

Beware Walter Mitty's wrote:

haha you're an idiot

"anger" lol

"What does you stalking my personal life have to do with this topic?" - huh

idiot

google:

Dial it up site:letsrun.com

select link

Ctrl+f

Find: Dial it up

seconds later...hey presto, not real hard even for an idiot like you

Ironic.

To quote you:

"Need a better effort than that."

Dial it up wrote:

It's been fun. wrote:

I think it's meant to show that you're a should be ignored fantasizing wanker who thinks nearly all posters on LR are idiots, but doesn't stop you from interfacing with those said idiots, which ironically you've been doing for years, so says something about you which you are yet to grasp. Sad middle aged never has been perhaps?

Q. "What does it have to do with this thread?"

A. That an idiot like you should be ignored, which I haven't done, but it's been fun.

Cute story bud.

Thanks, but as I'm not monitoring this thread 24/7 like yourself, and biting, that's it from me, I leave one idiot, you, to interface with all the others you believe are idiots.

It's been fun. wrote:

I leave one idiot, you, to interface with all the others you believe are idiots.

now that is ironic