What is the most untouchable outdoor record?

ginormal wrote:

Lilesa wrote:

Bekele's 26:17 and 12:37

Don't overestimate Bolt

100m- Tyson Gay and Blake got to 9.69 - so it's possible to get Bolt.

Noone besides is close.

Farah is way way far

Please do you really think 9.69 is CLOSE to 9.58?

The faster you run the harder it us to even take a hundreth of a second off

you heard it first wrote:

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM wrote:

Wrong.

Do you realized the HEG's 1500m WR is stronger than his mile WR???

Both are weaker than Komen's 3k record

Elgs 3:26:00 was not legit. Clocks didnt appear on screen. Everyone so badly wanted to see a WR and I believe that whoever was in charge fabricated that time. Elg probably ran in the 326's in that race but not 3:26.00. Their was an issue with the timing system and they had to come up with something.

I'm going to assume there's not a single clean female record where the runner hasn't been doped. That includes FloJo, and the Great White Hope Paula. Thus, women's records will remain static for a long, long time.

Again, the 100, 200, 400, 800, 1500, 3000, and 5000 are safe for the next 10 years

Mo has no shot at 5000. He's past his prime.

Kiprop too. He's a head case and lost his juice after Jama's come under scrutiny.

WVN's WR was a once-in-a-lifetime thing. Lane 8 in the OG. He won't be jacked up on adrenaline like that ever again. Nobody else is coming close to 43.03.

Those WRs are safe.

Wasn't the javelin record like 7% father than anyone else had ever thrown? Maybe it was less than that but it was something crazy where nobody has ever even approached the same distance...

98+ was chucked in ancient stadium likely very open & windy

his next best that year was 94.64m in more enclosed arena, a more likely measure of his ability in 0 wind

7'20.67 is far from strongest WR

it's just infrequently & unambitiously run with guys happy to run 7'29 when they are capable of 7'22 - 7'24

some mathematical tables i use have the nearest clocking to 7'20.67 as these :

7'20.46 =

9.82

19.64

43.78

1'41.56

2'10.97

3'27.43

4'44.13

12'39.00

26'14.57

Komen was peak career shape in '97/'98 indoors when he couda run probably 7'16 / 7'17 but we have to go with 7'20.67

Not Legit wrote:

you heard it first wrote:

Do you realized the HEG's 1500m WR is stronger than his mile WR???

Both are weaker than Komen's 3k record

Elgs 3:26:00 was not legit. Clocks didnt appear on screen. Everyone so badly wanted to see a WR and I believe that whoever was in charge fabricated that time. Elg probably ran in the 326's in that race but not 3:26.00. Their was an issue with the timing system and they had to come up with something.

I agree with this alternative fact.

Not Legit wrote:

you heard it first wrote:

Do you realized the HEG's 1500m WR is stronger than his mile WR???

Both are weaker than Komen's 3k record

Elgs 3:26:00 was not legit. Clocks didnt appear on screen. Everyone so badly wanted to see a WR and I believe that whoever was in charge fabricated that time. Elg probably ran in the 326's in that race but not 3:26.00. Their was an issue with the timing system and they had to come up with something.

Of course, you are talking absolute shit but El G also ran 3:26.12 so I wouldn't worry your little head about it.

The mile WR is still much weaker than that. El G had the ability to be a mid 3:42 miler.

Your conclusion assumes that doping has stopped.

Karl Hungus wrote:

I'm going to assume there's not a single clean female record where the runner hasn't been doped. That includes FloJo, and the Great White Hope Paula. Thus, women's records will remain static for a long, long time.

Why stop now? wrote:

Your conclusion assumes that doping has stopped.

Karl Hungus wrote:

I'm going to assume there's not a single clean female record where the runner hasn't been doped. That includes FloJo, and the Great White Hope Paula. Thus, women's records will remain static for a long, long time.

Doping is better controlled now (until a new drug comes up): you can only use EPO to raise your hematocrit by 10% - 20% depending on your starting value, and testo up to a T:E ratio of 3:1. 10 years ago, you could go farther with EPO, 20 years ago, EPO was undetectable, and 30 years ago, steroid doping was unlimited.

That the athletes went along with that is human and reflected in the decay of various race times.

Don Ritchie's 100km in 6h10m20s in 1976.

That's just under 6 minute miles for 6 hours straight!

Very few have come close. Undoubtedly some of the East Africans could challenge this, with the right training, but they're not going to do that now as the marathon distance is where the money is for them.

Feet and inches Guy wrote:

Still only one person has gone over 8 feet in the HJ (Sotomayer 89 & 93) and one has gone over 20 feet in PV (Bubka 92, 93 & 94) outdoors.

They are only 2 cm away in the high jump. Could go any day.

I think we all can see why Athletics is a dead sport in the eyes of most sports fans.

People want to see records broken or at least a reasonable attempt.

Doping killed the sport in the 1980's and 1990's by setting records that will never be broken again.

Here's a brash idea......allow doping again so records will be broken, people will be become interested again and the sport will grow. Does anyone care about the Tour de France now? Nope.

This is all very true and well put. Except that when "gene doping" becomes feasible all of those test will be irrelevant.

controls wrote:

Doping is better controlled now (until a new drug comes up): you can only use EPO to raise your hematocrit by 10% - 20% depending on your starting value, and testo up to a T:E ratio of 3:1. 10 years ago, you could go farther with EPO, 20 years ago, EPO was undetectable, and 30 years ago, steroid doping was unlimited.

That the athletes went along with that is human and reflected in the decay of various race times.

The 3:38.12 mile I ran on an outdoor cinder track last summer in my training shoes. Also I never used any rabbits.

This thread is stupid. The statistics have been done. Paula's marathon is far and away the strongest record. This is a bit dated, but no way have any new records come as close to the theoretical limit.

https://web.archive.org/web/20090716204739/http://footloose.runnersworld.com/2009/02/mark-denny-a-ge.html

Karsten Shulz's age 17 1977 JFK 50 Miler record, 6:16:25 7:31.7 average.