This is a great post in a good thread. Thanks for this.
This is a great post in a good thread. Thanks for this.
from wiki:
Curry was adopted and anglicised from the Tamil word kari meaning "sauce", which is usually understood to mean vegetables and/or meat cooked with spices with or without a gravy.[5] Cury (from French cuire, meaning to cook) appeared in the 1390s in an English cookbook, The Forme of Cury,[5] and kari was first described in a mid-17th Century Portuguese cookbook[5] by members of the British East India Company trading with Tamil (Indian) merchants along the Coromandel Coast of southeast India,[6] becoming known as a "spice blend used for making kari dishes ... called kari podi or curry powder".[6] The first curry recipe in English was published in 1747 by Hannah Glasse.[5]
Origins and dissemination[edit]
Archaeological evidence dating to 2600 BCE from Mohenjo-daro suggests the use of mortar and pestle to pound spices including mustard, fennel, cumin, and tamarind pods with which they flavoured food.[7] Black pepper is native to South Asia and Southeast Asia and has been known to Indian cooking since at least 2000 BCE.[8]
Similarly the oldest surviving Roman cookbook, Apicius, details numerous recipes that require meats to be seasoned with vinegar, honey and ground herbs and spices including pepper, cumin, lovage, marjoram, mint, cloves and coriander.[9]
The establishment of the Mughal Empire, in the early 16th century, influenced the Indian cuisine, especially in the north. Another influence was the establishment of the Portuguese trading centre in Goa in 1510, resulting in the introduction of chili pepper to India from the Americas, as a byproduct of the Columbian Exchange.
Curry was introduced to English cuisine starting with Anglo-Indian cooking in the 17th century as spicy sauces were added to bland boiled and cooked meats.[10] The 1758 edition of Hannah Glasse's The Art of Cookery contains a recipe "To make a currey the Indian way".[11] Curry was first served in coffee houses in Britain from 1809, and has been increasingly popular in Great Britain, with major jumps in the 1940s and the 1970s.[12] During the 19th century, curry was also carried to the Caribbean by Indian indentured workers in the British sugar industry. Since the mid-20th century, curries of many national styles have become popular far from their origins, and increasingly become part of international fusion cuisine.
Fish and chips is also not native to Old Blighty, which itself is derived from Hidustani. Buffalo wings are not native to Buffalo, nor French fries to France.
Nevertheless, I am learning much from this thread.
Ginger beer is what red heads drink.
Very interesting, but of course curry was from Asia first. There are all kinds of currys across Asian countries, and the spices crucial to currys (and rice) grow there.
Britain adopted curry when we started getting involved in Asia. Especially India.
The poster saying curry was invented in the UK is also partly correct. Tikka Masala and other similarly anglicised curry dishes do not exist outside of the UK. They were created here to suit our tastes. I believe deep fried aromatic duck in 'Chinese' cuisine is another example of this. They just aren't traditional.
All are delicious I might add.
It kind of goes unnoticed, but there are over 10 millions Brits who work and/or live in the U.S. as non-citizen nationals. In fact Brits can stay in the U.S. up to 6 months without a VISA. When I go to my local tavern on a night when there is a big premier league soccer match, there are more Brits than Americans. My small city has a k-12 British International School where the kids receive a British-based education. We focus on Mexicans, but there are almost as many British and Indians who come to the U.S. each year.
Kind of like how the burrito is not a Mexican food item.
GhostofTedKennedy wrote:
Fish and chips is also not native to Old Blighty, which itself is derived from Hidustani.
Everything made from potatoes comes from the Incas who invented them. Old World people were woefully ignorant when it comes to food science. They sailed westward only when they destroyed their own fisheries through destructive agriculture.
The Incas also figured out how to build earthquake-proof castles on mountain tops out of stone blocks carved to fit together perfectly without mortar. Nobody else can do that, even today.
Oh and ginger ale is disgusting, probably the least popular carbonated beverage in America.
I was talking to a British lady recently and asked her if she missed any particular food items and she surprisingly said baked beans. Heinz baked beans in the green can. American baked beans she said were too sweet and barbecuey. And yeah, she was big on curries and basmati rice and of course, good tea.
Les wrote:
I was talking to a British lady recently and asked her if she missed any particular food items and she surprisingly said baked beans. Heinz baked beans in the green can. American baked beans she said were too sweet and barbecuey. And yeah, she was big on curries and basmati rice and of course, good tea.
They actually had those baked beans in the green can at my grocery store… But the can just said "baked beans", so it didn't fit too well into my thread title (without a weird name). Interesting to know that they are apparently very different from our baked beans :-)
Original Posta wrote:
Les wrote:I was talking to a British lady recently and asked her if she missed any particular food items and she surprisingly said baked beans. Heinz baked beans in the green can. American baked beans she said were too sweet and barbecuey. And yeah, she was big on curries and basmati rice and of course, good tea.
They actually had those baked beans in the green can at my grocery store… But the can just said "baked beans", so it didn't fit too well into my thread title (without a weird name). Interesting to know that they are apparently very different from our baked beans :-)
That explains why British farts smell so bad vs. American sweet farts!
TrackCoach wrote:
It kind of goes unnoticed, but there are over 10 millions Brits who work and/or live in the U.S. as non-citizen nationals. In fact Brits can stay in the U.S. up to 6 months without a VISA. When I go to my local tavern on a night when there is a big premier league soccer match, there are more Brits than Americans. My small city has a k-12 British International School where the kids receive a British-based education. We focus on Mexicans, but there are almost as many British and Indians who come to the U.S. each year.
Since the population of GB was 64.1 million in 2013 then 1 in every 6 Brits was over working in the US. That only leaves 5/6th of Britain to populate the Middle East.
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=population+of+britainBased on Brits on US tv & film, you are correct. Bet there are no Yanks on British TV.
Bad Wigins wrote:
Oh and ginger ale is disgusting, probably the least popular carbonated beverage in America.
Sir Badley, I find ginger beer to be too strong....and gingery???? I mix it half & half with ginger ale. Hope this helps. Trader Joe's sells ginger beer.
Hold on there, mate. Renee Zellweger played a British cow in Bridget Jones Dairy.
Also, Americans only know of fve or six English actors since they're all in every English movie ever made: Hugh Grant, Emma Thompson, Helen Mirren, Hugh Dancy, Sean Connery, Keira Knightley, Benny Hill and the guys on Top Gear.
GhostofTedKennedy wrote:
Fish and chips is also not native to Old Blighty, which itself is derived from Hidustani. Buffalo wings are not native to Buffalo, nor French fries to France.
However, Freedom Fries did originate in the land of the Free.
Dark and Stormy
In a tall glass filled with ice add 4 – 5 oz of Barritts Ginger Beer and top with Gosling's Black Seal Rum (2oz or to taste). You must garnish with a lime wedge
Bermuda Dark and Stormy wrote:
Dark and Stormy
In a tall glass filled with ice add 4 – 5 oz of Barritts Ginger Beer and top with Gosling's Black Seal Rum (2oz or to taste). You must garnish with a lime wedge
Ah yes, I've had many, many of those on my yacht. I never even left the dock.
Man overboard! Oh, never mind, just another intern.
Try a steak and cheese pie (whilst hot).
Hey, Top Gear (Clarkson, Hammond and May) now the Grand Tour is the best show on Telly.