pretty good post from Alan, from April 2019. 2019.
Oh I agree head to head polls don’t matter much at this point. At this point in 2007 Guilliani and Clinton were ahead by 10+ pts and they both lost. At this point in 2015 Trump was still just a joke and under 10%.
What should worry the GOP is that just about EVERY candidate is polling ahead of Trump in the majority of polls. Yes it’s early but it’s a bad sign. What’s also a bad sign is the consistent DROP in popularity in states he won by a razor thin margin to begin with. His popularity has dropped in EVERY state since the election, even red states. Even if you adjust the close states +5% R he still loses the three states he can’t afford to lose, WI, MI, PA.
I still stand by my prediction from a while back....he loses WI, MI, PA and will lose the election in a landslide. Probably losing OH and AZ. FL is questionable. GA or NC will flip. That’s the death knell. If Beto is the nominee Trump will lose TX.
About Beto. He’s been quietly going about doing his thing. Putting some 4000+ miles on his van. He’s doing town halls and I believe has visited more cities than anyone. He lacks a big idea but really so did Obama and Clinton early on. He’s been hesitant to do the cable news shows and town halls, which has hurt his position in the short run because the other meandering candidates like Buttigieg get a little more name recognition. He doesn’t have wonky ideas and his record is more conservative than 75% of Dems. I still believe we will see more of a shifting of the guard after the first debates and half of these candidates will drop after the first two primaries. I don’t think Buttigieg makes it out of Iowa.
I mean really....are we going to see the second election in a row with the oldest candidates ever?
Alan
From "Agip" april, 2019. Also good.
agip wrote:
re; Biden
My biggest short term interest is how his candidacy plays out in the arena. The reporters love Pete and Warren...they get those people. Rich white people with lots of ideas and who speak well. but that's just not a huge part of the democratic party.
Biden is old and moderate and not surprising. Reporters and pundits don't much like that. But that is a very large portion of the dem and indie electorate. And maybe even some Rs. So Biden will probably poll higher than the reporters understand.
Will be interesting.
BOOM
from Agip, April 2019:
agip wrote:
Right now I'm thinking the ticket should be Biden/Harris. That would tic all the identity politics items, and would get the black vote.
Rigged, April 2019.
oops.
Biden & Bernie are your front runners. Both are too old. One is a socialist; the other represents the establishment with foot-in-mouth disease. Trump will wipe the floor with these two clowns in any debate.
KAG2020
Fat Hurts, April 2019
oops
Tiny will not enter any debates this time around.
Will you still vote for him after he refuses to debate?
Rigged got something right
April 2019
Trump will debate the nominee, whoever that will be (after the Dem Convention).
Alan, April 2019
major oops.
Speaking of Biden and Bernie:
Neither will win the primary. Who was the party leaders in April 2015? 2007?
I believe at this point a paper bag could beat Trump.
You keep overestimating how conservative the country is. People like free stuff. People actually like socialism. Agree they are too old, then again so is Trump and so was Clinton.
My bet is on Beto, same age as Clinton and Obama when they ran.
Alan
Sally Vix wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
You are so outrageously stupid.
1) Trump was an unindicted co-conspirator with Michael Cohen. He is Individual-1. He would have been sent to prison if he hadn't been elected. No proof? Shut up, idiot.
2) Our country is not ready for a woman President. Sorry. You might not like Hillary's stances on things, but she is a very smart woman and very qualified. At least 3 women in the Democrat side this time are smarter than Biden...Warren, Klobuchar, Harris...and yet the top two vote getters were both white men. Democrats aren't even ready for a woman President yet. I am, but the Party and the nation aren't. You're just wrong, again.
3) Hillary did not commit any felonies. She has not been charged with any felonies. She is not "Individual-1" anywhere like Trump is.
Sally, just go away. You are always wrong, and no one here respects your views. We don't take kindly to people who berate their wives and then brag about that on the internet.
Garbage, garbage, garbage.
INCORRECT! The only one of those three points that is an opinion is #2 (pretty clearly shown to be true though by the voting record of the American public). #1 and #2 are just facts. Go away wife berater.
L L wrote:
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Coming from Mister Zero Percent Chance, you can take that to the bank! LOL
I'll give you credit, Rigged.
He did earn the name Mister Zero Percent Chance.
And every time he makes a confident call, I feel it's a jinx.
Flagpole just ruined Minnesota for Biden.
Well, you are doomed. He called the entire election for Dementia Joe too- the kiss of death.
sense and sensible wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
4) I agree that slut shaming is misogynistic. I didn't do that. A slut is a slut is a slut. It's a word that has a meaning, and that meaning is - "a person, especially a woman, who is sexually promiscuous." Note that a slut does not have to be a woman. I never shamed anyone. I actually never even called anyone a slut. I just told Alan that the word he probably meant was "slut" unless they were getting paid.
The very act of using the term "slut" is misogynistic. So, yes, you did do that. The fact that " It's a word that has a meaning" does not make it OK to use. Niqqer is also a word that has a meaning. It is not OK to use.
From Meriam-Webster: "Definition of niqqer: offensive; - used as an insulting and contemptuous term for a black person".
From Meriam-Webster: "Definition of slut: disparaging + offensive - a promiscuous person : someone who has many sexual partners —usually used of a woman"
See any similarities?
Not the same. A slut or a whore is a term that is earned by behavior. The "n" word is just applied to a race of people...no bad behavior on their part needed.
If I went around calling ALL women sluts and whores, that would be the same thing. I did not do that here and in fact didn't call anyone in this case either thing.
The words "slut and whore" are used pejoratively, but as they can apply to both men and women, I disagree that their use (even when used about a woman) makes them inherently misogynistic.
What that there was is called a schooling. Let me know in the future if you need clarification on something else.
Armstronglivs wrote:
To be clear, unless your sisters were paid to have those children, they are just sluts, not whores. Words matter.
Both terms are misogynistic. Words do indeed matter.[/quote]
Well, whether they are misogynistic is debatable, but even if I were to agree with you on that, you have to pick the right misogynistic word if you are indeed going to go down that road.[/quote]
I would prefer that we didnt. I don't think there is a "right misogynistic word" - like there isn't a right racist word.[/quote]
Again, I was just giving Alan an English lesson. He's the one who used one of those words in context, not me. If you're going to be a misogynist, you should at least pick the right word. Note - a misogynist might very well use either of those words, but the using of either word does not make the person using them a misogynist.
Armstronglivs wrote:
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
I have heard that Trump rallies have helped people with voter registration.
They also help with super-spreading, as we shall see in Wisconsin.
What the Trump people are helping their voters do in swing states is showing them how to register to vote multiple times. If only a few manage to make it and get two ballots they are supposed to notify the Trump camp and provide "proof" that the vote is being rigged to vote against Trump. That is just one of Trump's game plans to openly steal the election.
Trollminator wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
You are so outrageously stupid.
1) Trump was an unindicted co-conspirator with Michael Cohen. He is Individual-1. He would have been sent to prison if he hadn't been elected. No proof? Shut up, idiot.
2) Our country is not ready for a woman President. Sorry. You might not like Hillary's stances on things, but she is a very smart woman and very qualified. At least 3 women in the Democrat side this time are smarter than Biden...Warren, Klobuchar, Harris...and yet the top two vote getters were both white men. Democrats aren't even ready for a woman President yet. I am, but the Party and the nation aren't. You're just wrong, again.
3) Hillary did not commit any felonies. She has not been charged with any felonies. She is not "Individual-1" anywhere like Trump is.
Sally, just go away. You are always wrong, and no one here respects your views. We don't take kindly to people who berate their wives and then brag about that on the internet.
Everything you said and I will add that many of us also don't take kindly to cretins.
Word, brother!
L L wrote:
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Coming from Mister Zero Percent Chance, you can take that to the bank! LOL
I'll give you credit, Rigged.
He did earn the name Mister Zero Percent Chance.
And every time he makes a confident call, I feel it's a jinx.
Flagpole just ruined Minnesota for Biden.
That is crazy talk, brother! First of all, I qualified my 2016 call just like I have for 2020 -- can't cheat. Trump cheated. I shouldn't even have had to add that in, but I in fact did.
Secondly, you think I just ruined MN for Biden? Seriously? I didn't know I had that kind of power. MN wasn't even won by Trump last time, and Biden is way up in the polls there. What chu talkin' 'bout L L?
L L wrote:
Flagpole likely roots for the Cleveland Browns, which explains their abysmal record over the decades.
INCORRECT! I am not an NFL fan. I have no favorite NFL team. I am an Ohio State Buckeye football fan, though I just don't watch any of the major sports like I used to. These days, I couldn't care less if the Buckeyes win or not.
Flagpole wrote:
sense and sensible wrote:
The very act of using the term "slut" is misogynistic. So, yes, you did do that. The fact that " It's a word that has a meaning" does not make it OK to use. Niqqer is also a word that has a meaning. It is not OK to use.
From Meriam-Webster: "Definition of niqqer: offensive; - used as an insulting and contemptuous term for a black person".
From Meriam-Webster: "Definition of slut: disparaging + offensive - a promiscuous person : someone who has many sexual partners —usually used of a woman"
See any similarities?
Not the same. A slut or a whore is a term that is earned by behavior. The "n" word is just applied to a race of people...no bad behavior on their part needed.
If I went around calling ALL women sluts and whores, that would be the same thing. I did not do that here and in fact didn't call anyone in this case either thing.
The words "slut and whore" are used pejoratively, but as they can apply to both men and women, I disagree that their use (even when used about a woman) makes them inherently misogynistic.
What that there was is called a schooling. Let me know in the future if you need clarification on something else.
I am going to be optimistic and assume that you actually possess the ability to learn even though you clearly lack the character to admit that you have learned.
Try not to be misogynistic. You have been exposed multiple times on this thread for misogynistic remarks. Try to be better (I realize that you cannot admit it, but do try to be better).
Flagpole wrote:
L L wrote:
Flagpole likely roots for the Cleveland Browns, which explains their abysmal record over the decades.
INCORRECT! I am not an NFL fan. I have no favorite NFL team. I am an Ohio State Buckeye football fan, though I just don't watch any of the major sports like I used to. These days, I couldn't care less if the Buckeyes win or not.
The Bosa family are Trump voters. Suck on that, democrat.
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