Armstronglivs wrote:
Cuomo.
Which one? Fredo? ; )
Armstronglivs wrote:
Cuomo.
Which one? Fredo? ; )
Fat hurts wrote:
agip wrote:
yeah I wouldn't be the first to point out that the virus has affected blue places far, far more than it has affected trumplandia. WIll help the president.
Although the recession will hurt trumplandia also.
If people living in Trumplandia don't practice social distancing, then the virus will still spread out of control in those areas. It will just happen later.
If you think the virus won't spread in more sparse areas, consider Dougherty county Georgia. It's a fairly isolated county in southwest Georgia. It has a population of 89,500 and already has 164 confirmed cases. They are already shipping patients to alternate hospitals outside the county.
Compare that to the metro Atlanta county where I live. We have over 225,000 in population but only 29 confirmed cases.
Trumplandia will get hit hard because they actually believe Trump's happy talk.
Snickers Marathon and Half - March 7th.
Just sayin'
Yonsinglerct wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
If people living in Trumplandia don't practice social distancing, then the virus will still spread out of control in those areas. It will just happen later.
If you think the virus won't spread in more sparse areas, consider Dougherty county Georgia. It's a fairly isolated county in southwest Georgia. It has a population of 89,500 and already has 164 confirmed cases. They are already shipping patients to alternate hospitals outside the county.
Compare that to the metro Atlanta county where I live. We have over 225,000 in population but only 29 confirmed cases.
Trumplandia will get hit hard because they actually believe Trump's happy talk.
Snickers Marathon and Half - March 7th.
Just sayin'
Ran my PR there even though I made a wrong turn and had to backtrack. Fast course.
Yonsinglerct wrote:
L L wrote:
Biden seems better at messaging. And being realistic and truthful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXvXauw9jf8Here is what Biden wrote in January regarding Trump's preparedness for this:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/01/27/coronavirus-donald-trump-made-us-less-prepared-joe-biden-column/4581710002/"To be blunt, I am concerned that the Trump administration’s shortsighted policies have left us unprepared for a dangerous epidemic that will come sooner or later."
Well, it's sure as hell not Sanders.
Who else we got?
Refreshing to hear someone talk like an adult.
I have been in Florida for 3 weeks now with my family and working remotely. Trumpers here are totally ignorant of his horrendous leadership and management of this crisis. They simply don’t care and remain supportive. It is what I expected but still interesting to observe the total disconnect.
Fat hurts wrote:
agip wrote:
ok P - my memory is that you had a long set of dire assertions with the word 'fact' after them...I'll never find it but I'll withdraw if you say my memory is wrong.
According to my memory, P did say "FACT" several times in all caps. However, he did say that these were based on some "if's". That is, these these things will happen "if" we don't do what is needed to gets us off our current trajectory.
The accuracy of P's models are less important than his overall conclusions. P is absolutely correct that we need to shut down the whole country now. We should have shut it down two weeks ago.
Like all exponential threats, the longer you wait, the harder it will be to mitigate the problem. This is true for coronavirus. It is true for the climate crisis.
The questions we need to ask about coronavirus response are:
"Do we want 100,000 dead Americans or do we want 1,000,000 dead Americans?"
"Do we want a recession from shutting down or do we want a depression from not shutting down?"
Looks like Fat Hurts has a very good memory.
Also, spot on in his analysis.
Ciro wrote:
Yonsinglerct wrote:
Well, it's sure as hell not Sanders.
Who else we got?
Refreshing to hear someone talk like an adult.
Joe Biden on the View said that the cure would be worse than the pandemic itself. He needs to be asked about this.
Also, Bush II stockpiled 150 million masked during his administration. in 2009 with the Swine Flu and 60 million affected, the Joe Biden and Obama administration went through most of these 150 million masks. In the 7 years post the Swine flu, why did the Joe Biden administration not replenish all these stockpiled masks that were used??? President Trump is mercilessly railed against for not having enough masks but it was Joe Biden and Barack who used up all the masks and failed to replenish.
So 2 very important questions needs to be asked of Joe Biden:
1) Joe, why did you say the cure for the Coronavirus would be worse than the virus itself?, and
2) Why did your administration not replenish the 150 million stockpiled masks that the Bush II administration gave you as a gift? I would say it is criminal and resulted in 1000's of deaths that you and Barack did not replenish the stockpile of 150 million masks.
P...
Awesome! Thanks.. While some folks get upset at your calculations because of assumptions related to them. I still enjoy the effort.
Armstronglivs wrote:
[
I might suggest that you guys email each other rather than bury a message board with your private penchant for mathematics. Or maybe summarise what you think - in English.
Your models are all very well but presume a predictability in biology that can't be guaranteed - viruses aren't mathematical entities - and figures for rates of infection that are inexact because testing has been limited - there are many in the population likely to have the virus that we - and they - don't know about. This certainly applies in different countries, where testing protocols vary considerably. The best you can offer is approximation with such limited data we have to produce an educated guess - like the epidemiologists are doing. You aren't an epidemiologist so it's not even an educated guess. You're playing with numbers.
I get your point and agree.
But does it really matter what is posted on this thread? It's become a jumbled mess of Covid-19 predictions and Trump love/Trump hate.... it's all for entertainment purposes at this point anyway!
P wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
According to my memory, P did say "FACT" several times in all caps. However, he did say that these were based on some "if's". That is, these these things will happen "if" we don't do what is needed to gets us off our current trajectory.
The accuracy of P's models are less important than his overall conclusions. P is absolutely correct that we need to shut down the whole country now. We should have shut it down two weeks ago.
Like all exponential threats, the longer you wait, the harder it will be to mitigate the problem. This is true for coronavirus. It is true for the climate crisis.
The questions we need to ask about coronavirus response are:
"Do we want 100,000 dead Americans or do we want 1,000,000 dead Americans?"
"Do we want a recession from shutting down or do we want a depression from not shutting down?"
Looks like Fat Hurts has a very good memory.
Also, spot on in his analysis.
Unless I missed it, you didn't post numbers for your model the last couple of days. Numbers not fitting your model anymore? Time to manipulate that data again. Perhaps take out that hotspot US. ;)
Ciro wrote:
Partisanship aside, this crisis just looks way too big for Trump to handle.
He looks scared, very scared in the moments when he’s not bluffing for the cameras.
https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/president-donald-trump-arrives-for-a-briefing-on-the-news-photo/1208287364?adppopup=true
But he does not take any responsibility at all. So it MUST be someone else's fault.
Fat hurts wrote:
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
The USA has tested more people in 7 days than S.Korea has in 8 weeks. More tests lead to higher case totals which result in a higher death count. However, this gives us a lower mortality rate which gets lower with every test.
As usual, Rigged is lying. This time he is lying with statistics. In terms of total tests, South Korea has done far fewer than the US per population.
Based on the available data and the population of each country, 1 in 142 South Koreans and 1 in every 786 Americans have been tested for the coronavirus.
Are you calling Dr Birx a liar?
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/489274-birx-us-has-done-more-testing-in-8-days-than-south-korea-in-8-weeksWe are still WAAAAY behind South Korea.
Here is the truth: The moron in chief fired the pandemic response team. We wasted weeks and weeks not testing people when we could have been using those tests to find out where the virus is and where we should take action.
Yonsinglerct wrote:
P wrote:
Looks like Fat Hurts has a very good memory.
Also, spot on in his analysis.
Unless I missed it, you didn't post numbers for your model the last couple of days. Numbers not fitting your model anymore? Time to manipulate that data again. Perhaps take out that hotspot US. ;)
Which numbers - US or World would you like to see posted today? I tend to simply move from one to the other every few days.
But, manipulate data? Straight from WHO
Hotspot? Surely you jest
Anyway, please feel free to let me know if you prefer US or World today.
P wrote:
Yonsinglerct wrote:
Unless I missed it, you didn't post numbers for your model the last couple of days. Numbers not fitting your model anymore? Time to manipulate that data again. Perhaps take out that hotspot US. ;)
Which numbers - US or World would you like to see posted today? I tend to simply move from one to the other every few days.
But, manipulate data? Straight from WHO
Hotspot? Surely you jest
Anyway, please feel free to let me know if you prefer US or World today.
Also, I only missed one day. Yesterday's response to "have to ask...." took a fair bit of time to put together so I skipped one day.
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
As usual, Rigged is lying. This time he is lying with statistics. In terms of total tests, South Korea has done far fewer than the US per population.
Are you calling Dr Birx a liar?
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/489274-birx-us-has-done-more-testing-in-8-days-than-south-korea-in-8-weeksWe are still WAAAAY behind South Korea.
Here is the truth: The moron in chief fired the pandemic response team. We wasted weeks and weeks not testing people when we could have been using those tests to find out where the virus is and where we should take action.
I made it clear I was calling YOU a liar. I said, "As usual, Rigged is lying. This time he is lying with statistics."
Trump approval continues to tick up: 47.3% The gap is now 2.0%
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Trump approval continues to tick up: 47.3% The gap is now 2.0%
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html
My wife is a big-time Liberal but she is supporting him. This is going to be a landslide. Sleepy Joe said that the cure was worse than the cure. Seriously Sleeping Joe? Are you just a dumbfuc!
Yonsinglerct wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
Cuomo.
Which one? Fredo? ; )
"Fredo" is a racial snipe. I don't think you want to do that.
Fat hurts wrote:
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
I made it clear I was calling YOU a liar. I said, "As usual, Rigged is lying. This time he is lying with statistics."
I simply quoted Dr Birx, then you are also accusing her of lying. Try again.
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
I made it clear I was calling YOU a liar. I said, "As usual, Rigged is lying. This time he is lying with statistics."
I simply quoted Dr Birx, then you are also accusing her of lying. Try again.
Fat Hurts is a clown. Quit replying to him. He brings nothing to the table except Global Warming nonsense. He is a joke.