Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

agip wrote:

interesting to think about how spanky would compete against Amy K. It's like evil vs good...his vileness would be thrown into high contrast by her nomalcy and decency. What nickname could be bestow? 'boring amy?' or maybe something ugly and sexualized. But she's perfectly normal looking, not short, not tall, etc.

It's easy to see how spanks would fight against bernie, joe, bloomberg, pete. But amy? She doesn't have any of the characteristics he can hammer away at.

although he is a genius at finding weaknesses in opponents.

It would indeed be evil versus good. Yet, you have the two mixed up. Trump has never been accused of being mean or vindictive towards his staffers. It seems he treats them with decency and kindness. Klobuchar, on the other hand, has a deserved reputation of treating her staffers like sh%t.

For those who are touting Amy of being a saint MIGHT read the following (warning: IT IS NOT PRETTY):

Earlier in February, Minnesota senator Amy Klobuchar was accused of mistreating her staff in reports published by HuffPost and BuzzFeed News. The allegations against the Democratic senator, which emerged shortly before she announced that she was running for president in 2020, were alarming; she was accused of throwing papers and hurling objects — including a binder — at staffers, and of regularly berating employees to the degree that many of them were left crying. It was also reported that Senator Harry Reid even once admonished Klobuchar for her behavior toward staff.

In turn, Klobuchar told reporters, “Yes, I can be tough. And yes, I can push people … I have high expectations for the people that work for me. But I have high expectations for this country.”

However, the allegations against Klobuchar paint a picture of a far more troublesome work environment than simply one of “high expectations” and being tough. Moreover, new accusations against her continue to emerge. Here’s a running list of all allegations so far.

The disturbing allegations of staff maltreatment against Klobuchar began to surface in early February.

In a pair of stories, HuffPost uncovered the accusations of staff mistreatment against Klobuchar. Before she announced her then-rumored 2020 campaign, HuffPost reported that at least three people withdrew from consideration to lead her presidential bid because of persistent rumors that she mistreated her staff.

Former staffers said the senator was “habitually demeaning and prone to busts of cruelty” towards her employees, HuffPost reported. Additionally, it was reported that former Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid spoke to Klobuchar privately in 2015, urging her to change her behavior towards her staff. HuffPost also reports that complaints about Klobuchar behavior date back at least to 2006 during her time as the Hennepin County attorney in Minneapolis.

Additional accusations of Klobuchar’s alleged behavior — including leading a workplace of fear and anger, which left employees in tears — started popping up after.

Four former staffers told BuzzFeed News that the senator was prone to bouts of “explosive rage” and subjected them to regular humiliation. In one instance, a staffer says they were hit by a flying binder that the senator threw (though the staffer said the senator did not intend to hit anyone with it). The staffers spoke of crying “all the time,” and said that Klobuchar reportedly berated them over minor grammatical errors and threatened to fire them (even on email threads that included many of their colleagues).

Some former aides, however, say that Klobuchar’s behavior as a leader didn’t just affect her employees but limited their ability to conduct Senate work, creating a chaotic environment where staff were forced to devote as much time to managing their boss’s unpredictable anger as they did to governing.

From the get-go, the senator and her campaign have denied the allegations against her, claiming that she is merely “tough” but that she “loves her staff.”

Speaking with BuzzFeed News in early February, a spokesperson for her campaign says, “Senator Klobuchar loves her staff — they are the reason she has gotten to where she is today. She has many staff who have been with her for years … and many who have gone on to do amazing things.” Several of her former staffers spoke out in support of Klobuchar, including one who said they found her to be “incredibly fair and extremely effective.” And the day of her presidential announcement, Klobuchar told reporters that she has high expectations of her staff and of the country:

Trollminator wrote:

P wrote:

It's a weakness in an opponent if it resonates with his base. And "grade school level stuff" resonates with his base (as we've seen on this thread).

Unfortunately this is true and everyone else is still incorrectly assuming that voters are better than that but they really aren't. There are many Dems that are attracted to similar stuff - childish jokes to trigger the other side. I honestly don't know if Dems are better off trying to stay above it all. People love reality tv and want to see it in politics too. It's a sad situation.

It's really difficult for Trump's opponents to fight back at the same level. Rubio tried to and failed miserably. It shows a lack of dignity and it's only appealing to Trump's base.

And just like clockwork, agent orange goes on twitter to try to destroy Kelly. I have zero sympathy for Kelly since he took his sweet time to speak the truth, but trump cannot handle ANY truth about himself.

P wrote:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

He doesn't find weaknesses; he just makes up stupid nicknames. It's all grade school level stuff.

It's a weakness in an opponent if it resonates with his base. And "grade school level stuff" resonates with his base (as we've seen on this thread).

You all make valid points. P hits the nail on the head as long as it resonates with his base it’s useful. Agree he’d struggle with Klobuchar in this regards.

Sally Vix wrote:

[quote]agip wrote:

interesting to think about how spanky would compete against Amy K. It's like evil vs good...his vileness would be thrown into high contrast by her nomalcy and decency. What nickname could be bestow? 'boring amy?' or maybe something ugly and sexualized. But she's perfectly normal looking, not short, not tall, etc.

It's easy to see how spanks would fight against bernie, joe, bloomberg, pete. But amy? She doesn't have any of the characteristics he can hammer away at.

although he is a genius at finding weaknesses in opponents.

Trump has never been accused of being mean or vindictive towards his staffers.

what would you say, sally vix, if i could prove to you that Trump is awful to his staffers?

Would you change your mind?

Trollminator wrote:

And just like clockwork, agent orange goes on twitter to try to destroy Kelly. I have zero sympathy for Kelly since he took his sweet time to speak the truth, but trump cannot handle ANY truth about himself.

And Hope Hicks saw that the coast is clear and no one is going to do time, so she's returning. Revolving door between FOX and the WH.

agip wrote:

what would you say, sally vix, if i could prove to you that Trump is awful to his staffers?

Would you change your mind?

Then is has to be that the staffers deserve it or everyone is just lying and out to get the president.

About "that" Iowa.

Sure Pete won Iowa. But now Iowa Republican are trying to pass an anti-Pete law. Schools are not allowed to mention any LGBTQ person without FIRST telling parents. That would allow parents to withdraw their kids from the class PRIOR to any discussion.

A Republican bill sponsor stated: "Not all students, parents or families agree with the viewpoint held by many schools regarding sexual orientation or gender identity issues. And they should be allowed to opt out of instruction that contains that."

A rebuttal to the above: "What if we’re having a discussion on current events and there’s a presidential candidate — somebody who’s running for the nomination — who’s gay? Can we not have that conversation in a government class, then, without first notifying the parents and allowing them to withdraw their child from the class?"

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/2020/02/10/iowa-bill-requires-parental-notification-of-gender-identity-sexual-orientation-curriculum/4713497002/

Trollminator wrote:

And just like clockwork, agent orange goes on twitter to try to destroy Kelly. I have zero sympathy for Kelly since he took his sweet time to speak the truth, but trump cannot handle ANY truth about himself.

Classic. Just classic. Here Trollminator has a cute nickname for Trump: "Agent Orange."

This is verbatim what Aztec said on the previous page: "He doesn't find weaknesses; he just makes up stupid nicknames. It's all grade school level stuff."

Agip has a nickname for Trump. I think FAt Hurts calls him "Tiny" and other cute names. Other Dems have their own cute nicknames for Trump. Aztec just called you out on your "stupid nicknames." He said it is "grade school stuff."

Clean up your acts! No need to continue with the "grade school stuff" nicknames. Let your arguments rest on their content. Nice one Aztec!

The alpha males ?

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/matt-gaetz-having-bad-hair-120023786.html

agip wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

[quote]agip wrote:

interesting to think about how spanky would compete against Amy K. It's like evil vs good...his vileness would be thrown into high contrast by her nomalcy and decency. What nickname could be bestow? 'boring amy?' or maybe something ugly and sexualized. But she's perfectly normal looking, not short, not tall, etc.

It's easy to see how spanks would fight against bernie, joe, bloomberg, pete. But amy? She doesn't have any of the characteristics he can hammer away at.

although he is a genius at finding weaknesses in opponents.

Trump has never been accused of being mean or vindictive towards his staffers.

what would you say, sally vix, if i could prove to you that Trump is awful to his staffers?

Would you change your mind?

If you could prove it, I would add to his already sh$tload of undesirable traits. But, how could you prove it? So many lies about him have already been spread throughout. Remember Collusion? Trump obviously colluded with Russia. Everyone, and I mean, EVERYONE was told that Trump colluded with the Russians. Only one problem, and thanks to Robert Mueller, Trump was proved to have NEVER colluded with Russia. That is just ONE lie about Trump that was shot down.

Trollminator wrote:

And just like clockwork, agent orange goes on twitter to try to destroy Kelly. I have zero sympathy for Kelly since he took his sweet time to speak the truth, but trump cannot handle ANY truth about himself.

And to get at Kelly, Trump goes after Kelly's wife.

Trump screeched via Tweet: His incredible wife, Karen, who I have a lot of respect for, once pulled me aside & said strongly that 'John respects you greatly. When we are no longer here, he will only speak well of you.' Wrong!”

Sure, try to drive a wedge between wife and husband. Just what an immature bully would do.

Trumped wrote:

A Republican bill sponsor stated: "Not all students, parents or families agree with the viewpoint held by many schools regarding sexual orientation or gender identity issues. And they should be allowed to opt out of instruction that contains that."

Democrats need to introduce their own version of that bill to exclude Tiny from the classroom.

A Democratic bill sponsor stated: "Not all students, parents or families agree with the viewpoint held by many schools regarding adulterers. And they should be allowed to opt out of instruction that contains that."

agip wrote:

interesting to think about how spanky would compete against Amy K. It's like evil vs good...his vileness would be thrown into high contrast by her nomalcy and decency. What nickname could be bestow? 'boring amy?' or maybe something ugly and sexualized. But she's perfectly normal looking, not short, not tall, etc.

It's easy to see how spanks would fight against bernie, joe, bloomberg, pete. But amy? She doesn't have any of the characteristics he can hammer away at.

although he is a genius at finding weaknesses in opponents.

It is amazing how Trump always seems to relish in taking the mean and heartless side of issues. If its automobile emissions standards to protect health, regulation to protect the environment, concern about the future with global warming, health coverage he loves to take the selfish and really the evil side of issues. Its an uncanny pattern.

OK as Sally brought up, Amy K does have the background of being brutal to her staff at times. I am not sure how much of that is embellished and whether it is a current issue or not. But part of me, doesn't mind if Amy has a little bit of a biatch in her. No one is more unethical and dirty in campaigning than Trump. Maybe we don't want someone who is too nice to face down Trump.

I want someone who can look Trump in the eye during the debate and tell him that everyone knows he is a liar and also to call him an idiot. If he starts to stalk a candidate from behind during a debate like he did to Hillary, I want someone to stop, look behind right at him, and ask him, "What the hell are you doing?" Yes its low ball politics but its needed in today's market.

I agree with a lot of what you say. Hillary, despite the final outcome, was very adept at appearing nice to Trump and even Obama during the debates and the campaigns, and then she would then allow her surrogates to ravage their opponents behind the scenes. Hillary kept her hands clean. Amy would benefit from doing the same.

Not defending that behavior at all but it absolutely pales in comparison to spending $85,000 calling for the execution of innocent teenage boys, some as young as 14 years old.

Even years later when all the evidence in the world proves Trump got it wrong he refuses to accept his mistake. An absolute coward and rat of a “man”.

Hillary did have surrogates to ravage opponents. Trump had surrogates too but he also did it himself too. In our current election market, I think Amy would do better to let people see her get her hands a little dirty as far as attacking Trump. That how you get sound bites that the media plays. That's how Trump got all the coverage and beat his Republican rivals for the nomination.

Already notice the tendency for politicians to use more vulgar or swear words or to do or say more outlandish things for media coverage. Its the Trump effect.

Trollminator wrote:

P wrote:

It's a weakness in an opponent if it resonates with his base. And "grade school level stuff" resonates with his base (as we've seen on this thread).

There are many Dems that are attracted to similar stuff - childish jokes to trigger the other side.

Like calling the supporters of the "other side" names?

Who here does that?

shut up, half breed wrote:

Trump was not on the ballot in 2018, you uneducated democrat piece of trash.

I honestly can't figure out you are a liberal just trolling just to make trump supporters look really bad.

If you are a liberal trolling, you doing a good job, because many would think you actually are a trump supporter.

I will give you credit, for working hard. You post frequently.

Thanks and keep up the good fight! I think your posts and doing what you want them to. Many Republicans are embarrassed.