Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Yeah, about that... wrote:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/01/15/climate-change-2019-ended-earths-warmest-decade-scientists-say/4470004002/?fbclid=IwAR1ibQ346Ad_aiK4brHjkJoA5DgWi0YQf8j7QDekyEDCvrDXxz1NdTNm2PEhttps://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/01/15/climate-change-2019-ended-earths-warmest-decade-scientists-say/4470004002/?fbclid=IwAR1ibQ346Ad_aiK4brHjkJoA5DgWi0YQf8j7QDekyEDCvrDXxz1NdTNm2PE

Those who accept the science need to wake up.

This is an emergency.

Parnas states that only an investigation announcement was required from Ukraine because no one trusted them to actually do one anyway.

Trollminator wrote:

agip wrote:

This is not a new rumor. Apparently he was disgruntled after being fired and only sounded the alarm after. How could his account be corroborated?

the point I am making is simply that if Trump believed that the Bidens were criminals, then his behavior might not be impeachable. And he had reason to believe exactly that.

Anyone with a decent brain knows your version is correct, trollminator, but trump is a complete moron.

I agree it could be a beneficial excuse for him. However, it would require acknowledging that he was trying to get Biden investigated. It would still be an impeachable act though, as he did it for personal gain. How else to explain that of all the nations out there and all the US politicians potentially involved in some corrupt scheme he focuses on Ukraine (which US has massive leverage over) and Biden which just happened to announce he is running.[/quote]

why, because Trump was very, very concerned that the next president of the USA was a corrupt lackey of Ukrainian energy interests. He felt a special neccessity to check out Biden since he could sit in the oval office next year.

Fat boy’s concerned that he is a corrupt lackey of putin. Everything else is frosting on his corruption cupcake. They call in his loans & it ends.

agip wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

the point I am making is simply that if Trump believed that the Bidens were criminals, then his behavior might not be impeachable. And he had reason to believe exactly that.

Anyone with a decent brain knows your version is correct, trollminator, but trump is a complete moron.

I agree it could be a beneficial excuse for him. However, it would require acknowledging that he was trying to get Biden investigated. It would still be an impeachable act though, as he did it for personal gain. How else to explain that of all the nations out there and all the US politicians potentially involved in some corrupt scheme he focuses on Ukraine (which US has massive leverage over) and Biden which just happened to announce he is running.

why, because Trump was very, very concerned that the next president of the USA was a corrupt lackey of Ukrainian energy interests. He felt a special neccessity to check out Biden since he could sit in the oval office next year.[/quote]

That argument could help his case but still doesn’t justify not going through the right channels. Also, the corroborating evidence points to him simply wanting an investigation on the Bidens opened.

Ukraine launches its own investigation of Yovanovich spying. This could get ugly quick.

jesseriley wrote:

Ukraine launches its own investigation of Yovanovich spying. This could get ugly quick.

That is bad news for trump... couldn't get his fake corruption investigation but is now going to be ultimately implicated under an Ukrainian investigation - the irony. Ukraine has to look into this as it involved official diplomatic channels. My guess is the spying was paid for by Parnas who obviously was given the money by Rudy who funded with his salary from agent orange. It's another Cohen type situation... "I don't know what Rudy did with his own time and money"

Btw it's very ironic that Ukraine, who is supposed to be the corrupt country, is the one opening an investigation into illegal surveillance on a US diplomat. You would think the US would be all over this to protect it's diplomat, but no it's the Ukraine coming to the rescue.

An investigation of trump's henchmen and none of Biden - this is brilliant... wait for it... here come the deep state conspiracy theories!

And Kellyanne was on CNN last night saying she had no idea who he is...trumpers, seriously?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOY5MVBU4AAOdEV?format=jpg&name=small

Looks too high to remember!

Gov’t watchdog says withholding Ukraine aid broke the law.

Trump's bill clinton moment will be: "I did not have criminal relations with those men"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOZ2ifzWkAEm7BD?format=jpg&name=360x360

Trollminator wrote:

Trump's bill clinton moment will be: "I did not have criminal relations with those men"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOZ2ifzWkAEm7BD?format=jpg&name=360x360

“I did not have sex with those women.

I did not accept loans from putin.

I did not evade taxes.

I did not use the presidency as a piggy bank.”

So many attractive choices!

and on this I would not be surprised if russia is actually trying to plant dirt to help trump. Russia has done so well with trump in office. They won in Syria, they are getting a pass on Crimea, they got to do more business with China to fill the void created by trump. They got to sell more arms to Turkey and KSA, amazing.

https://www.politicususa.com/2020/01/13/russia-caught-hacking-burisma-to-help-trump-find-election-dirt-on-the-bidens.html

Trollminator wrote:

and on this I would not be surprised if russia is actually trying to plant dirt to help trump. Russia has done so well with trump in office. They won in Syria, they are getting a pass on Crimea, they got to do more business with China to fill the void created by trump. They got to sell more arms to Turkey and KSA, amazing.

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yeah and even more important to them is to stoke discord in the US. Their ideal world would be a contested election in the US, where hackers affect the vote in a key district in Milwaukee and the WH refuses to accept the result. There is some evidence that hackers have been practicing doing just that, hoping the US will descend into chaos.

Then Russia can do what it wants, Europe and the US will work less together, and maybe even most importantly Putin can point to our chaos and ask his people 'is that what you want? Chaos and dissension? Just keep me in charge so you don't have to worry about politics.'

Trollminator wrote:

and on this I would not be surprised if russia is actually trying to plant dirt to help trump. Russia has done so well with trump in office. They won in Syria, they are getting a pass on Crimea, they got to do more business with China to fill the void created by trump. They got to sell more arms to Turkey and KSA, amazing.

https://www.politicususa.com/2020/01/13/russia-caught-hacking-burisma-to-help-trump-find-election-dirt-on-the-bidens.html

Not to mention putin is making some bold moves at home. There would normally be some strong opposing statement from the white house on something like this, but of course impotus will be radio silent on it... he may even applaud putin for the move.

geez I had no idea that russians were selling so much in arms to KSA. Good call.

Plus he props up fossil-fuel prices (Russia happy to sell theirs): climate denier; high debt devalues dollar; chaos in ME; etc.