What is the source regarding the June 18th call? For Trump haters, including me, it sounds too good to be true.
What is the source regarding the June 18th call? For Trump haters, including me, it sounds too good to be true.
kibitzer wrote:
Meanwhile, in the "real" poll of polls, DJT's job approval is at 43.2%--10+ points below his disapproval.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html
Trump is nearly 13 points underwater on 538. And headed downward like the Titanic.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/At war with eurasia wrote:
Well, this is getting absolutely nuts. Sally, I think Schiff’s performance at the DNIs hearing was disgraceful and unprofessional.
What do you think of Trump publicly saying China should investigate Biden? Or the story that was just reported that he directly asked Xi Jing Ping to investigate Biden back in June? Or that he also told Xi that he would stay quite on Hong Kong in exchange for a Biden Investigation? Or the recently revealed texts between Diplomats his past summer that it was “crazy” for Trump to withhold congressional appropriated funds for Ukraine until Ukraine agreed to investigate Biden?
Quid Pro Joe's reluctance to launch a forceful defense over Ukraine- which is his best bet to get in front of because it pits him directly against Trump. He hasn't done this because he knows it's game over. And now you can throw in China.
He can't explain/defend in depth makes Biden a dead man walking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHZ-f5A7xYQKAG2020
Whistleblower has hearsay information. The transcript of the conversation appears benign. Schiff’s staff involved in recommending Democratic operative law firm to whistleblower. Reporting whistleblower form revised to permit second hand information. Democratic leadership planning not to hold a vote on impeachment inquiry. Nothing to see here? What are you afraid of? All the cards on the table, including the Bidens. All transparent, for all to see.
You are, of course, right on the money with facts Flagpole. But we live in the age of truthiness. What we know to be true will be lost in the fray when the 2000 general election descends into tragic farce.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Whistleblower has hearsay information. The transcript of the conversation appears benign. Schiff’s staff involved in recommending Democratic operative law firm to whistleblower. Reporting whistleblower form revised to permit second hand information. Democratic leadership planning not to hold a vote on impeachment inquiry. Nothing to see here? What are you afraid of? All the cards on the table, including the Bidens. All transparent, for all to see.
Correct!
When is Pencil Neck going to release all his communications with the whistleblower from BEFORE the complaint was made?
SDSU Aztec wrote:
Conundrum wrote:
Trump brought up investigating Biden to Xi on a June 18th phone conversation. He mentioned that he would stay quiet about the crackdown against pro-democracy protesters in Hong Kong. This explains his reluctance to speak out on this this summer frustrating the national Security council and the State Department.
Everything is adding up fast and Trump's behavior, and increasing threats, lies and irrationality show a man in fast decline. Its obvious to so many that he needs to go. Even Republicans have to start admitting it.
He is becoming increasingly dangerous and his enablers will have a special place in hell waiting for them.
What is the source regarding the June 18th call? For Trump haters, including me, it sounds too good to be true.
CNN based on two different sources
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Whistleblower has hearsay information.
YAWN.
Linda Tripp was hearsay information, and the more than enough for Republicans to start impeachment against Bill Clinton.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Whistleblower has hearsay information. The transcript of the conversation appears benign. Schiff’s staff involved in recommending Democratic operative law firm to whistleblower. Reporting whistleblower form revised to permit second hand information. Democratic leadership planning not to hold a vote on impeachment inquiry. Nothing to see here? What are you afraid of? All the cards on the table, including the Bidens. All transparent, for all to see.
An impeachment inquiry will result in interviews of first hand knowledge from the people mentioned in the whistle blower report. That will get the truth out which is a goal we both have.
The lack of vote was to protect house members in pro trump districts.
Conundrum wrote:
Trump's new plan.
Obviously he asked a foreign government to help to dig up dirt on Biden per the transcript. He can't deny it so the best thing to do is to do it again to show there its OK to do.
He knows he will be impeached for for it. That's a given. But his goal is to fire up his base and to make it politically risky for the republican senate to vote him guilty. It also continues to associate his number one rival with corruption. And recent polls show 46% of voters think Biden did something wrong so its working. Trump will continue making that false association.
Expect the far right rags to come up with stories to support this.
He is slime but people are catching on to him.
His new tactic reminds me of a Stevie Ray Vaughan comment about playing a wrong note. You just play it again and the audience doesn't notice.
Yeah, the Russians really let Ghost down. They delivered in 2016, but couldn’t steal the midterms!
Traitors, watch and weep. You’re clueless about the Constitution, but Professor Nancy’s gonna ring the bell. Coach knows how to give the orders, but he can’t listen. No problem, it’ll take awhile the way prez-o stonewalls. There’ll be a test later.
Putin knows what he is doing. And that is why he is letting Trump hang in 2020. And that is why Trump is desperately seeking election rigging help from anyone. What Putin knows is there is more chaos created by Trump gyrating like an idiot than in Trump gloating he will win again, thank Putin.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Whistleblower has hearsay information. The transcript of the conversation appears benign. Schiff’s staff involved in recommending Democratic operative law firm to whistleblower. Reporting whistleblower form revised to permit second hand information. Democratic leadership planning not to hold a vote on impeachment inquiry. Nothing to see here? What are you afraid of? All the cards on the table, including the Bidens. All transparent, for all to see.
You can't really believe what you just typed there.
Benign? He is asking Ukraine to investigate his political rival...not corruption in general, specifically Joe Biden and his son's seat on a board from a few years ago. Get serious, brother! He has admitted doing it. He just did it again on camera and added China. No evidence that the Bidens have done anything improper. We don't just investigate people when there isn't cause. You conservatives used to be against that sort of thing.
And a vote on the impeachment inquiry is just a conservative talking point. Pelosi said they might have one just to keep people like you from thinking it's a thing. When you can't properly defend the crime, you attack the process.
You are wrong in your opinion here and you should be ashamed of yourself. It's anti-American.
Here's a quote from the story mentioning Trump's call to Xi in June:
"During a phone call with Xi on June 18, Trump raised Biden's political prospects as well as those of Sen. Elizabeth Warren, who by then had started rising in the polls, according to two people familiar with the discussion. In that call, Trump also told Xi he would remain quiet on Hong Kong protests as trade talks progressed."
Well, just when you think the desperate Dems can't get any more ridiculous, they go and gin up a fake scandal to begin a fake impeachment inquiry (before actually having any evidence- AGAIN)..... but then Trump ruins it by releasing a record of the conversation, which is far worse for Biden than Trump. So the whole "he's hiding something/cover-up tactic" falls apart immediately. It was classic Trump.
But to then take it to yet another level of ridiculousness, the Dems then actually defend the Biden's blatant corruption. Yes, while Biden was Vice President of the United States, his black sheep son (fired by the Navy for being coke head, for Christ's sake!, and then leaves his wife for his dead brother's wife) is hired by a Ukrainian Petroleum Company to sit on their board, for a measly $600K/year. With zero- that's right- ZERO experience in the field. Hmmm. And then Biden is caught ON TAPE bragging about withholding money from the Ukraine unless they get a prosecutor to stop investigating the company. Unbelievable. Biden is done, in case you aren't aware of it yet.
Let's not forget how silly the CIA "whistleblower" story is. Second and third hand information? Are you kidding me? Or how silly it is that the form that the "Whistleblower" used was just recently modified to not include a "first hand information" section, which typically carries the bulk of the weight toward making the account credible. It was changed in August. LOL. Nothing to see here though- totally normal- just a big coincidence I'm sure.
Then Adam Schiff literally makes up what he wanted people to think the transcript says, and reads it to Congress and the American people as what Trump said. It was amazing. Crazy times we're living in. It was great to watch Nunes sit right next to Schiff and call him out for being a lying scumbag, and congratulating he and the Dems on their "latest information warfare campaign against the president".
Following up on last month's IG recommendation to indict Comey, early this month the same IG also recommended indicting McCabe for his role in misleading investigators regarding the HRC Foundation probe. Little by little, it's all being proven what we on the Right have known for 3 years now- The FBI worked to help HRC elude charges for actually breaking the law, and worked to harm the Trump administration by spying and setting up Trump allies. This should offend any honest American. Unfortunately, TDS has infected much of the country, so they simply deflect and lie.
Lewandowsky testimony was hilarious. Even the CNN/MSNBC talking heads were saying Nadler and Co. "look like they don't know what they're doing" and have "allowed Lewandowsky to embarrass them again." How many more of these idiotic shows are we going to have to endure?
You guys see Avenatti is now suing Stormy Daniels? LOL! Some of the wackos on this thread thought he should run for president. Another good call that they're now surely just blocking out of their tiny minds.
Mueller did NOT come (despite several opportunities, and a lot of desperate begging, to do so).
Barr and Durham ARE coming.
The Clown is STILL Flagpole.
Current status of Flagpole’s Flagpole streak: 44+ months
Just for transparency, here are my main predictions with regard to Trump:
1) Couldn't win in 2016 unless he cheated. He cheated, so I was RIGHT about that one.
2) The House will impeach him. This is a certainty now.
3) Trump would have to resign or be removed by the Senate or some other legal way (25th Amendment for example).
4) Trump will go to prison.
#3 is the least likely of the 4, but I am sticking to that call. He will also go to prison.
Mueller is STILL coming too.
There will be no "Barr tab" - that was a ridiculous call and a stupid saying.
The clown is done.
Barr, Giuliani, and Pompeo may face prosecution. Pence isn't out of trouble either.
Carry on.
Notorneys wrote:
Conundrum wrote:
Question for anyone:
If the whistle blower testifies how will they keep his identification secret. Someone will leak his name to the president.
No attorneys allowed. In fact it is likely only a couple of people will know the person's identity. What congress people will hear is a masked voice with the person in a secret room--not even at the capitol--and answering questions live. But no actual face-time. Trump minions have already offer a $50,000 bounty to out the whistleblower.
$50,000?!? That's it? Not only is Trump wicked and incompetent but he's cheap too. I thought he was this multi-billionaire rich boy. That's what he keeps telling us. His very freedom could hang in the balance and that's all he offers? (Or his minions, whatever; I assume he only knows the best, most bigly richest people).
Well, don't say that I didn't tell you, "Trumpettes are NOT Americans!"
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