Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

and it gets worse wrote:

Image, Trump just make the Ukraine situation worse than it already was.

He was caught on audio saying:

"I want to know who's the person . . . who's the person who gave the whistle-blower the information? Because that's close to a spy. You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart? Right? The spies and treason, we used to handle it a little differently than we do now."

[The penalty for treason is death.]

I heard about that but haven't found the audio. Do you know if it is posted somewhere?

If true, that makes this even more urgent. Tiny can't be allowed to threaten whistleblowers like that. We've got to get him out of office NOW!

Calyope wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Take your foul mouth back to the Aussie trailer park, mate.

Then clean up the foul language, mate. You still have the trailer park written all over you. You are a gutter mouth Kiwi, who wishes he were an Aussie.

I don't think my doc wife would be up for that, mate. Idiot racist wanker.

Breaking Back wrote:

Sorry, son. But you are lying, ignorant or stupid. Possibly all three.

Please point out the exact sentence or phrase wherein he "claims (to be) speaking for everyone."

Can't do it? That makes you a liar, an ignoramus or a moron. Possibly all three.

^Hardloper

PS. You are supposed to be working, troll.

and it gets worse wrote:

Image, Trump just make the Ukraine situation worse than it already was.

He was caught on audio saying:

"I want to know who's the person . . . who's the person who gave the whistle-blower the information? Because that's close to a spy. You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart? Right? The spies and treason, we used to handle it a little differently than we do now."

[The penalty for treason is death.]

This is the character of the man that smart people have seen for a long time. It is absolutely INSANE that people still support that.

He is threatening DEATH for those people who spoke up about his improper behavior.

That is witness tampering! That is yet another broken law...that's a felony and yet another impeachable offense.

Wake up and smell the coffee Trumpers. You supported the wrong guy. He's a bad guy. He's a criminal.

Flagpole wrote:

celery wrote:

You are right Agip, the President should be impeached for using foreign aid to manipulate other countries politics. As should every President and Senator and Congressmen who has ever facilitated foreign aid in any way. They are all traitors. We are drowning in foreign entanglements. The Republic has been dead for at least 150 years, maybe longer. So spare us your selective outrage.

That's a BS position. There is no evidence that other Presidents have done what Trump did here...Nixon did it domestically, but even he didn't have the bad sense to involve foreign powers. There is NO equivalency. You can be upset with how government works, but for the most part, there isn't anywhere near this kind of corruption. Outrage about Trump and his behavior is warranted.

True that no sitting president is known to do something like this.

But Nixon actually did something similar before his election. He secretly worked with North Vietnam to kill peace talks so that Johnson and Humphery couldn't take credit. It's quite possible that Nixon's treachery caused the war to last 5 years longer.

Pencil neck Schiff proclaimed he had indisputable evidence of Trump colluding with the Russians. He never produced it and you know the rest. This is the guy who lied to the American public for the last 2 years when he said he had evidence—beyond circumstantial—of collusion. He is the Clownpole of Congress. Always making stupid promises.

There was no collusion found by Mueller

Just as there will be no impeachment

You Dems will lose again

KAG2020

There you are wrote:

Breaking Back wrote:

Sorry, son. But you are lying, ignorant or stupid. Possibly all three.

Please point out the exact sentence or phrase wherein he "claims (to be) speaking for everyone."

Can't do it? That makes you a liar, an ignoramus or a moron. Possibly all three.

^Hardloper

PS. You are supposed to be working, troll.

So, you admit that you are a liar, an ignoramus or a moron (possibly all three).

Good job!

All true, but Biden is to blame for making himself vulnerable to these types of accusations. If he couldn't prevent his son from pursuing international business opportunities he should have, at least, recused himself from any of the U.S.'s dealings with Ukraine. By not doing so, he created the appearance of a conflict of interest.

peanut butter wrote:

celery wrote:

If you've watched the video of Biden bragging about withholding the funds, he addresses your point. He says that Ukraine pushed back and said "you can't do that." To which Biden replied "you wanna call Obama?"

So in Biden's own words he was bragging about how he applied enough pressure to get what he wanted that day.

You proved I was correct. Obama would have the power, NOT Biden.

So you are saying that Obama should have been impeached?

celery wrote:

peanut butter wrote:

You proved I was correct. Obama would have the power, NOT Biden.

So you are saying that Obama should have been impeached?

This has been explained multiple times.

You have been exposed as a troll.

Have fun under that rock.

By the way, when Tiny threatened whistleblowers today he committed yet another crime.

Tiny is going to prison.

Flagpole wrote:

If he were to come up to be confirmed, I'm not sure many Democrats would do so based on his behavior here. This whole "Acting Director" thing that Trump has going on is ridiculous and should not be allowed.

Should not be allowed? How?

Do you mean the Senate should be required to confirm the nominee after x number of days not matter what? If the only requirement is that the nomination should be made after x days, then we will still have an acting director until that person is confirmed. Then the president can keep nominating people who cannot be confirmed, and thus retaining the acting director. How can you prevent that?

Ciro wrote:

Obvi wrote:

Fair question. I am not sure if the following will be new information for you.

1) Biden was carrying out the orders of Obama. Biden on his own had no authority.

2) Obama (and many others in the international community) wanted the removal of the Ukrainian Prosecutor because he was not prosecuting corrupt corporate officers, including the head of the company that Biden's son worked for, vigorously enough. Read that again to let it sink in.

Here is the link that you should probably be reading:

https://thebulwark.com/truth-lies-and-the-nonsense-trump-biden-ukraine-false-equivalency/?fbclid=IwAR2eytAzSaDvcpm9kB3Bz4fde7T_XbB6bQswYCRcCn43mb1z5XKxelD3oGU

+1

So it all comes down to trusting what Biden says about his motivation for wanting the Ukrainian prosecutor fired. You take it for granted that the Prosecutor was in fact corrupt, even though I doubt any of us are really well versed on Ukrainian politics from 2016.

But if you trust Biden's word that he thought the Prosecutor was corrupt, isn't there just as much evidence to trust Trump's word that he thought the Prosecutor was not corrupt, and it was the induced firing of the Prosecutor that Trump thought was the corrupt activity. Even if you think Trump is wrong, if this is his state of mind, then what he did is no different than what Biden did.

Whether Trump or Biden is correct in their opinion of whether the Prosecutor should have been fired is something none of us can really know for sure. We can pick and choose the news outlet that confirms our opinion and pretend it is evidence, but none of us really know. We would have to be insiders in the Ukrainian government in 2016 to really know.

If you think you really know the truth, and you think this impeachment circus is something that deserves your emotional investment, you are being tricked.

Fat hurts wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

That's a BS position. There is no evidence that other Presidents have done what Trump did here...Nixon did it domestically, but even he didn't have the bad sense to involve foreign powers. There is NO equivalency. You can be upset with how government works, but for the most part, there isn't anywhere near this kind of corruption. Outrage about Trump and his behavior is warranted.

True that no sitting president is known to do something like this.

But Nixon actually did something similar before his election. He secretly worked with North Vietnam to kill peace talks so that Johnson and Humphery couldn't take credit. It's quite possible that Nixon's treachery caused the war to last 5 years longer.

Or that one time when George Bush and his administration lied to the UN, lied to the American people, and then started a war on premises that knew to be false.

Fat hurts wrote:

By the way, when Tiny threatened whistleblowers today he committed yet another crime.

Tiny is going to prison.

A very Fatpolian statement. You have been wrong for over 2 years and will continue that streak of misery.

Obvi wrote:

celery wrote:

You are right Agip, the President should be impeached for using foreign aid to manipulate other countries politics. As should every President and Senator and Congressmen who has ever facilitated foreign aid in any way. They are all traitors. We are drowning in foreign entanglements. The Republic has been dead for at least 150 years, maybe longer. So spare us your selective outrage.

Ah, and here you had me believing that you were posting as something other than an ignoramus or a liar. Kudos to you!

Agip said nothing about "the President should be impeached for using foreign aid to manipulate other countries politics." So you are either monumentally stupid to post that or you are a liar.

Good job!

He said "Rather, he appears to have wielded the entire economic, military and moral authority of a great nation to, effectively, extort another democratically elected head of state."

I paraphrased that as "the President should be impeached for using foreign aid to manipulate other countries politics."

What's the difference?

celery wrote:

Ciro wrote:

+1

So it all comes down to trusting what Biden says about his motivation for wanting the Ukrainian prosecutor fired..

This would totally be true...

...if you ignore the fact that Biden's motivation was in step with the Obama administration, the EU, the IMF, and pretty much all of NATO that wanted to get rid of Russian influence in Ukraine.

I agree with that. The "appearance of a conflict of interest" that has been investigated and found to be fine though is WORLDS away from what Trump has done here -- conspiring with a foreign country to dig up dirt on his political rival and using the power of his office to illegally withhold Congress-approved money that they need to defend themselves against Russia.

He's a traitor.

Racket wrote:

celery wrote:

So it all comes down to trusting what Biden says about his motivation for wanting the Ukrainian prosecutor fired..

This would totally be true...

...if you ignore the fact that Biden's motivation was in step with the Obama administration, the EU, the IMF, and pretty much all of NATO that wanted to get rid of Russian influence in Ukraine.

Celery is getting absolutely schooled here, it’s fun to sit back and watch the tantrums.