Ya'll funny wrote:
Trump's approval has just popped over 45% now, which is higher than it's been in two years. Coincidence that it's after the Russia Hoax was exposed and the economy is rocking?
The economy is rocking? Have you looked at the DJI.
Ya'll funny wrote:
Trump's approval has just popped over 45% now, which is higher than it's been in two years. Coincidence that it's after the Russia Hoax was exposed and the economy is rocking?
The economy is rocking? Have you looked at the DJI.
agip wrote:
Ya'll funny wrote:
Trump's approval has just popped over 45% now, which is higher than it's been in two years. Coincidence that it's after the Russia Hoax was exposed and the economy is rocking?
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html538 agrees, for the most part.
America is getting used to having a felon in the white house.
but still, Trump is right down with the least popular presidents of the postwar era. Less than Jimmy Carter.
Ach, I messed up.
538 shows trump approval at the high end of the range of the last year, but not breaking out.
And carter was a hair less approved at this time than Trump. It's all within the margin of error of course.
Trump is tied with Gerald Ford also.
WTF^n wrote:
agip wrote:
anonymous poster, calling out hypocrisy is totally fair game. Ol' Sally here has no problem tut-tutting when Dems criticize Rs in personal terms, but he would never take finger to keyboard against the terrible insults flung by Rs at Ds. So he has not gained the ability to tut-tut.
anonymous agip, but what about Hillary's emails?
Not sure what your point is here, but I have always criticized HRC for her email mistakes. Any honest dem should agree that she made bad mistakes in the act itself and then covering it up.
But Comey was also right to say no prosecutor would ever indict, given what she did.
So, since I am perfectly willing to criticize Dems, I have the right to criticize Rs too.
Unless you had some other point that I could not discern.
Racket wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
1) Oh...he is also a whore...I agree. He doesn't have the "gold-digging" label, but he's a whore for sure...in more ways than Melania is even.
2) I have no motive in calling her a gold-digging whore other than being factual. Even if that aspect of her being didn't exist, she wouldn't really have any "status" to degrade. She doesn't work. She wasn't elected to anything. She happens to be the wife of the President. Same status as any other woman who is also a wife who doesn't work. She though is ALSO a gold-digging whore.
3) Your 'n word' thing is ridiculous. No one can choose the color of their skin. People CAN though decide not to be a whore. Melania chose what she chose.
4) Melania is ALSO a bad person because she supports her criminal husband...makes her a bad person. But, she is ALSO a gold-digging whore.
5) Sally is the one who asked us to comment on the Trump family. I did. Obviously the bulk of my words is against the worst president in the history of the United States.
6) It is clear you don't believe her to be a gold-digging whore. You and I will have to disagree.
I don't know who taught you to argue by OCD-like enumeration like this but seriously, read some Demosthenes or Cicero.
The simple fact of the matter is (in what appears to be a unironic invocation of the classic Scarlet Letter) that you've decided to shame her through intentionally charged language in a way that reduces her status as a person and as a woman simply because she had an affair once. This, it would seem to you, is worthy of the permanent label "whore," and would seemingly, in your made up world where everyone is destined to carry the weight of their worst mistakes for all eternity both publicly and humiliatingly, apply even if she had atoned for this sin. Your presumption on her personal relationship with Trump, whether it involves simple motivations of money or not, stands.
Honestly I could go on but it's like arguing with you is much like arguing with a Trump supporter. Their mind is made up, built on a presumption of whatever preconceived notions originating within themselves must be correct, dominated by a single monolithic ideal that the universe is black and white and is the way I perceive it and nothing less with an almost Candide-like conviction.
"I have 100% integrity 100% of the time" has become as much of a trope as "I'm not racist, I have black friends."
DAMN. Good on you, Racket. Clownpole is insufferable (wouldn't you be if you were 5'4")?
You have to understand what's driving him though- he's been wrong for 3 years now. No denying that. He is in a constant doubling-down stage, because all his doomsday scenarios fail to come true. His biggest hope has now been crushed, as Mueller said there was absolutely NO collusion. Not even that there wasn't enough evidence- he said there was none. And even on obstruction, he said there was no case. Not to mention that the idea of obstructing a fake investigation is absurd. Aaaaand, ZERO indictments related to either charge.
That was Mueller's job: bring indictments. He couldn't. Game over.
But every few days more seeps out about the origins of the hoax. Trump is biding his time, and then BOOM, he's going to declassify everything and Barr-Horowitz are going to expose Brennan, Lynch, Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Page, Ohr, Ohr, Baker, Preistep, and anyone else in that HRC orbit as the frauds that they are. We have the texts. We have the emails. We have the payment schemes (Perkins-Coie, Fusion, etc). We have the leaks. There's nowhere to hide (except on CNN and MSNBC, of course).
Mueller did NOT come.
The Clown is still Flagpole.
Barr IS COMING.
agip wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
1) Her label of Gold-Digging Whore has nothing to do with any affairs that may or may not have happened (rumors of affairs on her part since their marriage, but I'm not considering any of that).
2) Enumeration makes things clear, but also, it's part of my persona...like calling people "brother", having HUGE biceps, etc.
3) Why is it that my view of her is monolithic, but yours is not? You agree with me on subjects we agree on, but you disagree with me when we disagree (obviously by definition). Why is YOUR view correct when we disagree? Why is it that YOU are not just like a Trump supporter with YOUR mind made up?
4) Again, if Melania isn't a Gold-Digging Whore, then Gold-Digging Whores do not exist.
I prefer semi-prostitute trophy wife, but opinions can vary.
Semantics or putting lipstick on a pig, but I'm ok with you doing that.
Fat hurts wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
She clearly supports Trump in all interviews, so I don't know if she hates her life or not. I do not wish for her to hate her life, for she hasn't done anything in my estimation to deserve hating her life. Nothing I have said shows a lack of compassion for her. I have compassion for all people, even if they are gold-digging whores.
Calling someone you don't even know a horrible name like that does not show compassion.
It's pretty clear that Melania did not want to be first lady. She seems like a very sad person.
And while we would love to see her turn against her husband and call him out for the things he has done to her personally, she does have a son to think about. I believe that as a mother she is trying hard to do what is in the best interest of Barron.
Dumping Trump and taking Barron out of the WH and back to NY would be great for him. Tiffany got away from Trump and she is by far the least moranic adult Trump child. The reason she doesn't divorce him is that it would devastating to Trump for that to happen.
There have been many young, beautiful women that have married old rich guys, so it's not fair to single out Melania just because she is the first one to become FLOTUS.
agip wrote:
WTF^n wrote:
anonymous agip, but what about Hillary's emails?
Not sure what your point is here, but I have always criticized HRC for her email mistakes. Any honest dem should agree that she made bad mistakes in the act itself and then covering it up.
But Comey was also right to say no prosecutor would ever indict, given what she did.
So, since I am perfectly willing to criticize Dems, I have the right to criticize Rs too.
Unless you had some other point that I could not discern.
Not her "e-mail mistakes" but her e-mail CRIMES. She was sending classified e-mails over unsecured servers. THOSE ARE CRIMES. She kept her server in an EFFING BATHROOM CLOSET. She was the most influential diplomat in the WORLD and kept her work server in a bathroom closet. She was asked to turn over e-mails and she destroyed 30,000 emails. THAT IS A CRIME. She was asked to turn over the server and the bleached it, and attempted to smash it to smithereens! Those are very serious crimes. Those are not "mistakes." Those are crimes! God bless you all and Happy MOther's Day!
Sally Vix wrote:
agip wrote:
Not sure what your point is here, but I have always criticized HRC for her email mistakes. Any honest dem should agree that she made bad mistakes in the act itself and then covering it up.
But Comey was also right to say no prosecutor would ever indict, given what she did.
So, since I am perfectly willing to criticize Dems, I have the right to criticize Rs too.
Unless you had some other point that I could not discern.
Not her "e-mail mistakes" but her e-mail CRIMES. She was sending classified e-mails over unsecured servers. THOSE ARE CRIMES. She kept her server in an EFFING BATHROOM CLOSET. She was the most influential diplomat in the WORLD and kept her work server in a bathroom closet. She was asked to turn over e-mails and she destroyed 30,000 emails. THAT IS A CRIME. She was asked to turn over the server and the bleached it, and attempted to smash it to smithereens! Those are very serious crimes. Those are not "mistakes." Those are crimes! God bless you all and Happy MOther's Day!
as always, do some reading from non-Republican sources and then get back to me. You don't understand the issues, are stating falsehoods/half truths, and leaving out key points.
agip wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Like I said, she is in an impossible situation where she tries to figure out what is best for her son. You can't know unless you have walked in her shoes.
Maybe I'm cynical because I live in a big city with tons of Melanias, and because of my life position I have dealt with them for decades. But a fashion model who becomes the third wife of a rich old man, quickly has one child, doesn't mind when the rich old man cheats on her publicly...she is not a normal person whom one should feel sorry for. I wish the best for Barron, but she knew exactly 1000% what she was doing and what she was getting herself into. She did it for the money and she put her son into this mess knowing something like this would happen.
I mean really. She is not an innocent party here.
No one is innocent, but this is a discussion on how much Trump sucks, not your personal inclinations regarding the personal lives of others. Besides, you yourself are guilty of USURY!
A reasonable person recognizes it contributes nothing to the conversation to begin with. And it's one thing to speculate she's in it for the money, and another to straight up call her a whore (which invokes slut shaming). Maybe Trump wants some hot arm candy and is cool with paying up for it. Plenty of mutually beneficial arrangements like that. In fact, I'm sure even he knows the score on their relationship.
agip wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
Not her "e-mail mistakes" but her e-mail CRIMES. She was sending classified e-mails over unsecured servers. THOSE ARE CRIMES. She kept her server in an EFFING BATHROOM CLOSET. She was the most influential diplomat in the WORLD and kept her work server in a bathroom closet. She was asked to turn over e-mails and she destroyed 30,000 emails. THAT IS A CRIME. She was asked to turn over the server and the bleached it, and attempted to smash it to smithereens! Those are very serious crimes. Those are not "mistakes." Those are crimes! God bless you all and Happy MOther's Day!
as always, do some reading from non-Republican sources and then get back to me. You don't understand the issues, are stating falsehoods/half truths, and leaving out key points.
I don't get my news from conservative sites. Everything I said was true. Point out ONE thing that was not true. Bring it on!
agip wrote:
WTF^n wrote:
"But Hillary's emails?"
WTF is wrong with you? Admit that you pulled a classless act piling on top of FP's classless act. Then move on. Don't pull this, "But what about the GOP?" crap.
anonymous poster, calling out hypocrisy is totally fair game. Ol' Sally here has no problem tut-tutting when Dems criticize Rs in personal terms, but he would never take finger to keyboard against the terrible insults flung by Rs at Ds. So he has not gained the ability to tut-tut.
Everyone already knew that Sally is a hypocrite and 2/3 troll. What people did not necessarily realize prior to now is that you are classless. So, I guess there is some value in you having now made that clear.
SilIy WiIly wrote:
Racket wrote:
I don't know who taught you to argue by OCD-like enumeration like this but seriously, read some Demosthenes or Cicero.
The simple fact of the matter is (in what appears to be a unironic invocation of the classic Scarlet Letter) that you've decided to shame her through intentionally charged language in a way that reduces her status as a person and as a woman simply because she had an affair once. This, it would seem to you, is worthy of the permanent label "whore," and would seemingly, in your made up world where everyone is destined to carry the weight of their worst mistakes for all eternity both publicly and humiliatingly, apply even if she had atoned for this sin. Your presumption on her personal relationship with Trump, whether it involves simple motivations of money or not, stands.
Honestly I could go on but it's like arguing with you is much like arguing with a Trump supporter. Their mind is made up, built on a presumption of whatever preconceived notions originating within themselves must be correct, dominated by a single monolithic ideal that the universe is black and white and is the way I perceive it and nothing less with an almost Candide-like conviction.
"I have 100% integrity 100% of the time" has become as much of a trope as "I'm not racist, I have black friends."
DAMN. Good on you, Racket. Clownpole is insufferable (wouldn't you be if you were 5'4")?
You have to understand what's driving him though- he's been wrong for 3 years now. No denying that. He is in a constant doubling-down stage, because all his doomsday scenarios fail to come true. His biggest hope has now been crushed, as Mueller said there was absolutely NO collusion. Not even that there wasn't enough evidence- he said there was none. And even on obstruction, he said there was no case. Not to mention that the idea of obstructing a fake investigation is absurd. Aaaaand, ZERO indictments related to either charge.
That was Mueller's job: bring indictments. He couldn't. Game over.
But every few days more seeps out about the origins of the hoax. Trump is biding his time, and then BOOM, he's going to declassify everything and Barr-Horowitz are going to expose Brennan, Lynch, Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Page, Ohr, Ohr, Baker, Preistep, and anyone else in that HRC orbit as the frauds that they are. We have the texts. We have the emails. We have the payment schemes (Perkins-Coie, Fusion, etc). We have the leaks. There's nowhere to hide (except on CNN and MSNBC, of course).
Mueller did NOT come.
The Clown is still Flagpole.
Barr IS COMING.
5'2"
Sally Vix wrote:
Flagpole, didn't your parents teach you the old adage: "If you have nothing good to say about someone, say nothing at all?" Do you really think a classy gentleman would call a middle-aged woman a "gold-digging whore?" You claim that you are chained to the truth and you must speak the truth, but why not just say nothing at all if the "truth" is going to make you look like a classless individual?
I can not control how you or anyone else views me. I can only control how I view myself, and I would be denying the truth and thus lying if (when asked by you to defend the Trump family) I did not state the truth about everyone in the Trump family...which I did...three criminal and horrible adult children, one criminal President, one adult child of Trump who is neither criminal nor horrible, one innocent minor child, one law-breaking gold-digging whore.
I would rather keep my integrity and tell the truth than put up a fake front so that you or anyone else might like me.
You are free to disagree that Melania is a gold-digging whore, as I have already said to Racket. We will just have to disagree on that point. I'm fine with disagreements. I'm not trying to convince you or anyone.
Maybe you shouldn't have asked us to defend a mostly criminal horrible family. The gold-digging whore is the least objectionable of them all (Tiffany and Barron excluded).
agip wrote:
WTF^n wrote:
anonymous agip, but what about Hillary's emails?
Not sure what your point is here, but I have always criticized HRC for her email mistakes. Any honest dem should agree that she made bad mistakes in the act itself and then covering it up.
But Comey was also right to say no prosecutor would ever indict, given what she did.
So, since I am perfectly willing to criticize Dems, I have the right to criticize Rs too.
Unless you had some other point that I could not discern.
My point? Are you really too stupid to understand my point?
Here, let me spell it out for you. My point begins with "class", ends with "less" and right smack in the middle resides "agip".
Try not to be classless.
Trumpers act like an illegal immigrant wife is great news, impeachment is great news, shooting Mexicans is great news. GOP has lost it, but go ahead and campaign with a dog’s breakfast. Few will eat.
Flagpole wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
Flagpole, didn't your parents teach you the old adage: "If you have nothing good to say about someone, say nothing at all?" Do you really think a classy gentleman would call a middle-aged woman a "gold-digging whore?" You claim that you are chained to the truth and you must speak the truth, but why not just say nothing at all if the "truth" is going to make you look like a classless individual?
I can not control how you or anyone else views me. I can only control how I view myself, and I would be denying the truth and thus lying if (when asked by you to defend the Trump family) I did not state the truth about everyone in the Trump family...which I did...three criminal and horrible adult children, one criminal President, one adult child of Trump who is neither criminal nor horrible, one innocent minor child, one law-breaking gold-digging whore.
I would rather keep my integrity and tell the truth than put up a fake front so that you or anyone else might like me.
You are free to disagree that Melania is a gold-digging whore, as I have already said to Racket. We will just have to disagree on that point. I'm fine with disagreements. I'm not trying to convince you or anyone.
Maybe you shouldn't have asked us to defend a mostly criminal horrible family. The gold-digging whore is the least objectionable of them all (Tiffany and Barron excluded).
I will ask again. Is your wife a gold-digging whore because you earlier stated she married you who had a big bankroll. Is she a gold-digging whore?
Sally Vix wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
I can not control how you or anyone else views me. I can only control how I view myself, and I would be denying the truth and thus lying if (when asked by you to defend the Trump family) I did not state the truth about everyone in the Trump family...which I did...three criminal and horrible adult children, one criminal President, one adult child of Trump who is neither criminal nor horrible, one innocent minor child, one law-breaking gold-digging whore.
I would rather keep my integrity and tell the truth than put up a fake front so that you or anyone else might like me.
You are free to disagree that Melania is a gold-digging whore, as I have already said to Racket. We will just have to disagree on that point. I'm fine with disagreements. I'm not trying to convince you or anyone.
Maybe you shouldn't have asked us to defend a mostly criminal horrible family. The gold-digging whore is the least objectionable of them all (Tiffany and Barron excluded).
I will ask again. Is your wife a gold-digging whore because you earlier stated she married you who had a big bankroll. Is she a gold-digging whore?
I really wish I could retract that last question. I know your wife is a very fine lady.
Flagpole wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
Flagpole, didn't your parents teach you the old adage: "If you have nothing good to say about someone, say nothing at all?" Do you really think a classy gentleman would call a middle-aged woman a "gold-digging whore?" You claim that you are chained to the truth and you must speak the truth, but why not just say nothing at all if the "truth" is going to make you look like a classless individual?
I can not control how you or anyone else views me. I can only control how I view myself, and I would be denying the truth and thus lying if (when asked by you to defend the Trump family) I did not state the truth about everyone in the Trump family...which I did...three criminal and horrible adult children, one criminal President, one adult child of Trump who is neither criminal nor horrible, one innocent minor child, one law-breaking gold-digging whore.
I would rather keep my integrity and tell the truth than put up a fake front so that you or anyone else might like me.
You are free to disagree that Melania is a gold-digging whore, as I have already said to Racket. We will just have to disagree on that point. I'm fine with disagreements. I'm not trying to convince you or anyone.
Maybe you shouldn't have asked us to defend a mostly criminal horrible family. The gold-digging whore is the least objectionable of them all (Tiffany and Barron excluded).
Doesn't matter what your opinion is or that you disagree with others. The fact is that your statements about her is low class. No arguing that point. It is a fact. People with integrity don't make statements like that.
Do you happen to have tourettes? If so, I can excuse your actions. Otherwise, you have low moral character.
jesseriley wrote:
Trumpers act like an illegal immigrant wife is great news, impeachment is great news, shooting Mexicans is great news. GOP has lost it, but go ahead and campaign with a dog’s breakfast. Few will eat.
GOP has lost it? Your party is all for killing viable babies who survived botched abortions. That is LOSING IT. And No FAt hurts - that is a fact.
jesseriley wrote:
Trumpers act like an illegal immigrant wife is great news, impeachment is great news, shooting Mexicans is great news. GOP has lost it, but go ahead and campaign with a dog’s breakfast. Few will eat.
How much meth do you mainline on the daily? I mean you gotta be pushing like 50g a day
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