Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

P wrote:

L L wrote:

Man the Dow went over 26,000 in January 2018.

It's now below 26,000 more than a year later.

Remember when he kept pointing at the stock market as a result of his success?

This is a dumb thing to focus on wrt POTUS.

Further, the Dow is up 35% since Trump's win and 24% since he has been in office. Those are very strong numbers. So please stop with talk of the Dow as somehow indicating Trump's terrible, horrible, no good, very bad presidency.

If it's dumb to focus on when stock growth is zero for over a year then it's dumb to focus on it when it's going up.

But he and is supporters kept pointing at it then.

The Dow isn't an indicator of success or failure of his presidency, but his rhetoric about it is when it's convenient to him.

All of that build up of the Dow was about a potential forthcoming tax cut for corporations.

And the exact same month that the tax cut went into effect, coincides with the general peak of the market with no real net gains since for over a year.

We have unemployment under 4% combined with very low tax rates yet our 401ks aren't growing.

I'm not talking about a bad week or a bad month here but a flat full year with a president who is supposed to be a financial hero.

Quick check of the scoreboard has:

ZERO Russian collusion.

ZERO obstruction of justice (hard to obstruct a fake investigation).

MOUNDS of evidence of DOJ/FBI/DNC conspiring against the Trump campaign and subsequent presidency. 20+ individuals from DOJ/FBI being fired, demoted, or resigning in disgrace. It's only going to get worse for them, as the counter-investigations will come right after the Mueller FLOP drops.

Over 3 years of failed predictions and crying from Libs here on LRC.

The Dems are now resorting to changing all rules, all the time. Get rid of the electoral college! Get rid of voting restrictions for scumbags! Let more teens vote! Let illegal aliens vote! Add more judges to the Supreme Court! Abolish the Senate! Tear down the wall that's there! Let everyone in! Abolish ICE!

It is seriously one of the most entertaining things I've ever watched devolve in my entire life. It has been awesome.

Mueller? No, no.

Clownpole? Ho, ho!

A Trump supporter sent a message to the late John McCain's wife yesterday.

The message said the sender was "glad" the late Arizona Republican is dead, and called him a "traitorous piece of warmongering s***." The message also attacked her daughter, Meghan McCain, criticizing her appearance and saying she hopes she "chokes to death."

Obviously this message was inspired by Trump's recent and random attacks on John McCain.

Yesterday a reporter directly asked Trump why he is now attacking McCain again.

His response:

“I’m very unhappy that he didn’t repeal and replace Obamacare, as you know,” Trump said, referring to McCain’s vote against overhauling the Affordable Care Act in July 2017. “He campaigned on repealing and replacing Obamacare for years, and then he got to a vote, and he said thumbs down.”

Trump asserted that McCain had told the White House hours before his no vote that he would support the president.

“I think that’s a disgrace, plus there are other things,” Trump said. “I was never a fan of John McCain, and I never will be.”

By the way, that vote did not include a replacement for Obamacare. Add that to the lie list.

Quick questions:

How many trumpers have been convicted of federal crimes of pleaded guilty to federal crimes?

And how many of these were prosecuted by the Mueller team?

Asking for a friend.

Are you being serious?

2015 was a negative year, with the Dow losing about 1000 points, down to 16,100ish.

At the time of the election, the Dow was under 19,000.

The 14 months after the election, the market exploded and gained close to 40% (in anticipation of tax relief from the Republican controlled government). That's a completely unsustainable trend, though. Imagine if that happened at any other point in history. For instance, if it happened now, it would put us around 35,000. So, a lot of people made a lot of money, and their 401K's grew substantially.

Yes, last year ended up being quite volatile, almost hitting 27,000, and then finishing the year with the unexplained dip under 22,000.

Yet it's currently back close to 26,000. Relax. We could have a 28,000-30,000 Dow next year at this time.

data hurts wrote:

desperation wrote:

^ The desperation is obvious in old man Rigged.

Hillary easily crushed Trump in the popular vote. Only a few states gave tRump the EC win by incredibly narrow margin. Drop Bernie and Jill out of the race and tRump remains a failing "businessman" on Apprentice.

Drop Gary Johnson out of the race, and Trump wins Minnesota, too.

Hillary only won the popular vote due to one state, period. Keep telling yourself differently. I deal with stats 5 days a week. Obviously many of you don't. Had Trump won the popular vote by 2 percent and had won 1 state by well over 4 million votes, the same would apply to him if that one state would have literally reversed the popular vote from one candidate to the other by the same percent.

This simple fact will confuse many of you libs and you'll look for a smart comeback, but there isn't one. Comparing Texas or New York for either candidate, which one poster has tried to do in the past, is clearly a ridiculous comparison.

Bottom line, Hillary was suppose to crush it in both the electoral and popular vote, she did not. Trump, as many wise posters have already explained, won by a larger percent in the electoral college than Hillary did by the entire popular vote, including California. If things were reversed, you'd all be touting that over and over, she won the electoral college by almost 20%---but she didn't.

***Add up Ohio, Michigan, North Carolina, Florida, Wisconsin & Pennsylvania and Trump won them all with just less than 1 million more votes than Clinton got in the same states, but he won each state. That's just one easy example and these were states that she was suppose to win, remember. Yet she won California by over 4.1 million votes. Add up how many states Trump won to get to 4.1+ million more votes than Hillary got in California (1 state) and you'll be surprised. All of those states combined are more important than one state's results. If you don't agree, well then, think about it...? Hint: You've proven my point.

One state cannot decide the election, hence the electoral college that Democrats loved so much, until they cried and whined when California's votes were put in near the end and then exclaimed, "But she won the popular vote, she won the popular vote!". She absolutely did, but only because of one predominantly liberal state.

The main 5 lib posters on here can't accept the fact above facts and have tried to compare California to previous elections with Texas. These are the same posters who tell others, it's 2019, join us. Yet they cherry pick when they feel it will benefit them.

Sorry, I truly look at this thread and laugh. 5 or 6 left wingers that have spent months of their lives on here actually think they have all of the world's answers in their small craniums. Accept it, you lost an election that was suppose to be a landslide.

And remember this.

Trump is not getting impeached.

Trump is not resigning before the end of his first term.

Flagpole is so delusional with politics that I'm embarrassed for you followers. But wait for it, as he'll have a comeback of how he's right and everyone else is wrong. Stay tuned.

p.s. To the bozo who said it was only a few states that gave Trump the win in the electoral college, think again. That kind of thinking has many options, quite a few that would have given Trump even more.

Sounds like Obama to me.

Yes, I'm serious.

This president brags about the market when it is up and doesn't mention it when it is flat or has drops.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LJ6cPuFKqg

Well, if your friend isn't a moran, she'd know that NONE of the crimes committed by the "Trumpers" you're referring to were related to the objective of the COUNTER-INTELLIGENCE investigation that the Special Counsel is "performing". In fact, nearly ALL of the offenses took place prior to 2015, and had been on-going for years prior.

Ask your friend why the FBI themselves, or the IRS for the tax-related offenses, didn't do their job prior to the COUNTER-INTELLIGENCE investigation?

Thank you.

Baby Alan wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

Define “modern times”?

Bush wasn’t bad. He just let his VP run all over him when it came to Iraq.

Alan

BS you little 5'5" wuss! Hush, stay quiet sissy!

Ha! I’m 5’6”!...uh with shoes on.

Also I’m pretty sure I meet the Letsrun Real Man criteria.

Agip,

Bush didn’t cause the recession. His heart was in the right place, he was a decent leader, he was just wholefully ignorant at times.

Alan

I repeat: This is a dumb thing to focus on wrt POTUS.

And what you should be talking about is NOT a "flat full year with a president who is supposed to be a financial hero" but rather a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad presidency. And using the DOW as part of that is moronic (highlighted by the moron in chief trying to do the same).

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Here's a quick hint for you: If a moron is known for doing something then that something is likely to be moronic and it is a good idea to avoid imitating it.

Silly Willy wrote:

agip wrote:

Quick questions:

How many trumpers have been convicted of federal crimes of pleaded guilty to federal crimes?

And how many of these were prosecuted by the Mueller team?

Asking for a friend.

Well, if your friend isn't a moran, she'd know that NONE of the crimes committed by the "Trumpers" you're referring to were related to the objective of the COUNTER-INTELLIGENCE investigation that the Special Counsel is "performing". In fact, nearly ALL of the offenses took place prior to 2015, and had been on-going for years prior.

Ask your friend why the FBI themselves, or the IRS for the tax-related offenses, didn't do their job prior to the COUNTER-INTELLIGENCE investigation?

Thank you.

Nope. The chairman of the trump campaign was convicted of crimes he committed all the way up to 2018. Get your facts straight. You are upsetting my friend

"“Manafort committed an array of felonies for over a decade, up through the fall of 2018. Manafort chose repeatedly and knowingly to violate the law—whether the laws proscribed garden-variety crimes such as tax fraud, money laundering, obstruction of justice, and bank fraud, or more esoteric laws that he nevertheless was intimately familiar with, such as the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA). His criminal actions were bold, some of which were committed while under a spotlight due to his work as the campaign chairman and, later, while he was on bail from this Court. And the crimes he engaged in while on bail were not minor; they went to the heart of the criminal justice system, namely, tampering with witnesses so he would not be held accountable for his crimes.”"

Um...Flynn was convicted of lying about meetings with Russians. That sure sounds plenty counter-intelligency to me.

My friend is telling me that you don't know very much, and are just flailing about.

And anyway, crimes are not limited to spy type stuff or collusion. Many, many trumpers are guilty of serious crimes. What a corrupt krew you are supporting.

They are NOT corrupt! They have been faithfully karrying out my boss's orders since day one!

Runningart2004 wrote:

Baby Alan wrote:

BS you little 5'5" wuss! Hush, stay quiet sissy!

Ha! I’m 5’6”!...uh with shoes on.

Also I’m pretty sure I meet the Letsrun Real Man criteria.

Agip,

Bush didn’t cause the recession. His heart was in the right place, he was a decent leader, he was just wholefully ignorant at times.

Alan

Look, all bad leaders have the heart in the right place. No one *sets out* to make disastrous decisions for his or her nation. They all think they are doing the right thing. Freaking Madero in VZ thinks he is doing the right thing.

As it turns out, Bush2's decisions were disastrous for our nation.

We're not talking bad luck here - we're talking decisions made by his administration.

Where his heart was...ok fine...I dunno. Seems less than relevant to anyone but him and his maker.

It's not just idiot Trump that points to the Dow.

The Dow makes news all of the time.

Like it or not, pundits and candidates will reference it leading up to Nov 2020.

The references to the Dow had a big impact on 2008 election as the effects of the recession weren't really felt until 2009.

I do realize that the market is mostly subject to free market changes.

But it is also affected sometimes by policy or anticipation of policy.

Anticipation of the tax cut had a huge affect on the Dow's value.

The tariffs are having an affect.

And honestly fears that a Democrat president may raise taxes will send the Dow down if it looks like that will happen.

I am reporting on the Dow here because it is news and it does get tied to the presidency in rhetoric like it or not.

But mostly I like needling Trump fans who liked to bring it up in the past.

L L wrote:

The tariffs are having an affect.

Tariffs are fake and everyone knows it. Trump will lift them at the first sign of real trouble because he's desperate to pump the market. He watches CNBC all day (in addition to Fox) and is obsessed with day to day price action on major indices, as reported from various sources in the White House. He threatened to fire Jerome Powell (lol) and probably threatened to fire Steve "Ample Liquidity" Mnuchin on Christmas Eve.

Look at all the bullsh!t tweets and news that gets thrown around everyday. You know how many times China has supposedly been close to making a deal with us (hint : it's literally a headline every day since November)? You know how many times the White House has rolled out Larry Kudlow and propped him up in front of a camera? This is an administration that cares more about the Dow than any president in history (probably, whatever) so I think it's fair to pin Trump on the Dow going up or down.

Also, who said their 401k wasn't growing? The Dow has basically tripled (inflation adjusted) since 2008. Just ask Flagpole and his Retirement Fund To End All Retirement Funds.

agip wrote:

Look, all bad leaders have the heart in the right place.

Strong disagree. Trump is a horrible leader and doesn't give a sh!t about the country, just wants to make himself rich and his brand immortal (which I guess he's doing).

Also Cheney as evidenced by the fact he barely has a heart to begin with.

data hurts wrote:

desperation wrote:

^ The desperation is obvious in old man Rigged.

Hillary easily crushed Trump in the popular vote. Only a few states gave tRump the EC win by incredibly narrow margin. Drop Bernie and Jill out of the race and tRump remains a failing "businessman" on Apprentice.

Drop Gary Johnson out of the race, and Trump wins Minnesota, too.

Then you need to drop Evan Mullins out of the race and Hillary still wins Minnesota.

evan mullin wrote:

data hurts wrote:

Drop Gary Johnson out of the race, and Trump wins Minnesota, too.

Then you need to drop Evan Mullins out of the race and Hillary still wins Minnesota.

Evan McMullin.