Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Wow!!! wrote:

Cafe Press has been right all of 4 times? Me too!

More accurate than Nate Silver's hilariously wrong 538 model in 2016 which you libs cited , ha! He was right, all of 2 times.

I didn't cite anything about which you speak yet I do find it funny that when faced with an obstacle you choose to deflect and change the focus of my point... is that what you conservs do?

Pookie Washington wrote:

Why does Mr Bone Spurs have such an obsession with the late John McCain?

John McCain was a Man - something Trump knows he can never be.

P wrote:

Pookie Washington wrote:

Why does Mr Bone Spurs have such an obsession with the late John McCain?

John McCain was a Man - something Trump knows he can never be.

Everytime I think Trump has gone as low as he can go........he goes even lower. He truly is a vile, disgusting excuse for an human being. I was never a McCain fan but what Trump is doing is slimy! I have ABSOLUTELY no respect for anyone who supports this man.

The Burgh wrote:

P wrote:

John McCain was a Man - something Trump knows he can never be.

Everytime I think Trump has gone as low as he can go........he goes even lower. He truly is a vile, disgusting excuse for an human being. I was never a McCain fan but what Trump is doing is slimy! I have ABSOLUTELY no respect for anyone who supports this man.

His voters don’t care. He can say or do what we he wants, not build the wall, sexually harass women, there could even be evidence of collusion, bank fraud, tax evasion, obstruction, it just wouldn’t matter to most of his voters.

Like I’ve said, it’s all about turnout. When decent Republican voters stay home on election day then the immoral, win at all costs, death to Democrats, insidious, vicious, and vile take to the voting booths. Others have convinced themselves that the alternative, a Democrat president, is worse than an immoral felonies crooked Republican. Christians as well. Blame the sin, not the sinner right?

The same can be said for the other side as well.

When you only have 50-60% turnout this is what happens. You don’t have that same 50-60% each time as some simply stay home this time but vote next time.

Alan

Fat hurts wrote:

72% is not high confidence. Go back to school.

Depends on what you're sampling

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

If you actually took the time to look into how Cafepress determines their presidential prediction, you wouldn't look so ignorant. They track sales metrics in each state for items promoting the presidential nominees. Every item such as mugs, tee shirts, pens, banners, posters, etc are tabulated daily for all 50 states. Trump merchandise outsold Hillary's in 2016. Obama's outsold McCain's in 2008 and Romney's in 2012. It is all tracked on their website. It has been a 100% correct predictor of presidential elections.

I was wondering what the "Cafepress" poll was. I will admit, that is an interesting metric to look at but I highly doubt it's predictive since a) anyone can buy merchandise including non-voters and b) anyone can buy a lot of it multiple times. Compare that to an actual poll of registered voters who can, you know, only vote once.

Correlation vs causation

Racket wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

72% is not high confidence. Go back to school.

Depends on what you're sampling

Voters

Racket wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

If you actually took the time to look into how Cafepress determines their presidential prediction, you wouldn't look so ignorant. They track sales metrics in each state for items promoting the presidential nominees. Every item such as mugs, tee shirts, pens, banners, posters, etc are tabulated daily for all 50 states. Trump merchandise outsold Hillary's in 2016. Obama's outsold McCain's in 2008 and Romney's in 2012. It is all tracked on their website. It has been a 100% correct predictor of presidential elections.

I was wondering what the "Cafepress" poll was. I will admit, that is an interesting metric to look at but I highly doubt it's predictive since a) anyone can buy merchandise including non-voters and b) anyone can buy a lot of it multiple times. Compare that to an actual poll of registered voters who can, you know, only vote once.

Correlation vs causation

Yes, there is that. Plus, there have only been 4 trials with a binary outcome.

So getting it right by chance is 1 in 16.

Now take all the entities out there who might try to predict the last 4 presidential elections. I'm sure there are many more than 16 who would like to make that claim. Some of them will be right.

So even if Cafepress' methodology provides some correlation that increases their odds to something better than 1 in 16, there is no reason to believe that their methodology is predictive at all.

Fat hurts wrote:

Racket wrote:

Depends on what you're sampling

Voters

Probably has a pretty high confidence interval unless you're confusing "confidence" with "odds of winning"

It's all about turnout and converting a few Indies.

The cruel fact for both sides is that the Democratic platform is far more popular among all americans than the republican platform. but R turnout has been better, and the rural bias of the EC puts them over the top.

Democracy fails and we get the two worst presidents of modern times, bish2 and spanks1, for those sad reasons, winning on minority votes.

Pretty quiet around here after Sally Vix admitted to being Russian yesterday. They moved on to some other scam, I guess. Be proud, Americans, that our leaders are accountable under the Constitution. They’re just slaves & they’re bitter about it. Plus it’s really cold in St Petersburg.

Define “modern times”?

Bush wasn’t bad. He just let his VP run all over him when it came to Iraq.

Alan

Trump administration loses in Federal Court 63 times!

Republicans lose again!

"Federal judges have ruled against the Trump administration at least 63 times over the past two years, an extraordinary record of legal defeat that has stymied large parts of the president’s agenda on the environment, immigration and other matters.

In case after case, judges have rebuked Trump officials for failing to follow the most basic rules of governance for shifting policy, including providing legitimate explanations supported by facts and, where required, public input.

Many of the cases are in early stages and subject to reversal. For example, the Supreme Court permitted a version of President Trump’s ban on travelers from certain predominantly Muslim nations to take effect after lower-court judges blocked the travel ban as discriminatory.

But regardless of whether the administration ultimately prevails, the rulings so far paint a remarkable portrait of a government rushing to implement far-reaching changes in policy without regard for long-standing rules against arbitrary and capricious behavior."

:46 seconds. still laughing!!!!!! Democrats lose again!!!!!!

Runningart2004 wrote:

agip wrote:

It's all about turnout and converting a few Indies.

The cruel fact for both sides is that the Democratic platform is far more popular among all americans than the republican platform. but R turnout has been better, and the rural bias of the EC puts them over the top.

Democracy fails and we get the two worst presidents of modern times, bish2 and spanks1, for those sad reasons, winning on minority votes.

Define “modern times”?

Bush wasn’t bad. He just let his VP run all over him when it came to Iraq.

Alan

BS you little 5'5" wuss! Hush, stay quiet sissy!

jesseriley wrote:

Pretty quiet around here after Sally Vix admitted to being Russian yesterday. They moved on to some other scam, I guess. Be proud, Americans, that our leaders are accountable under the Constitution. They’re just slaves & they’re bitter about it. Plus it’s really cold in St Petersburg.

Awe, poor little liberal loser. Still crying over the results? A democratic slave who lost...triggered!

Baby Alan wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

Define “modern times”?

Bush wasn’t bad. He just let his VP run all over him when it came to Iraq.

Alan

BS you little 5'5" wuss! Hush, stay quiet sissy!

Blaming everything on Vice isn't really fair. It's like saying

"Trump wasn't bad. He just let his brain make all the decisions for him."

What kind of talk is that? Bush2 was president and he led the country from peace and prosperity to unending war and the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression.

Yeah, ok, he might be a decent human being who would have made a solid assistant manager at Zales. But as president he was catastrophic.

desperation wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Stop making excuses for Silver. Silver had Hillary at 72% on the morning of Election Day.

^ The desperation is obvious in old man Rigged.

Hillary easily crushed Trump in the popular vote. Only a few states gave tRump the EC win by incredibly narrow margin. Drop Bernie and Jill out of the race and tRump remains a failing "businessman" on Apprentice.

Drop Gary Johnson out of the race, and Trump wins Minnesota, too.

Oh hey another Spankist bought and paid for by Russians.

Nice, guys, nice. Consistency is important in business, politics and life. We always know to expect corruption from you, and usually in the form of dollars from Russia.

"No collusion?" is that your all-purpose defense?

"Tuesday's documents also contain more evidence that Trump associates, in this case Cohen, appeared to have at least indirect connections to powerful Russians.

They show that Cohen was paid more than $500,000 through his company as a business consultant from January to August 2017 by Columbus Nova LLC., an investment management firm that is linked to Russian national Viktor Vekselberg.

Vekselberg is an oligarch -- with ties to Russian President Vladimir Putin -- who is under US sanctions regarding election interference."