Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Flagpole wrote:

jesseriley wrote:

Gates sentencing postponed again, STILL cooperating...

Good grief. How long does it take him to just tell all he knows?

The investigation is YUGE and very complex. Mueller gets one shot at Trump and his family. I think reports that Mueller is close to wrapping up have been incorrect. Maybe even leaks from the WH/Trump allies, trying to frustrate the public. Investigation fatigue. Probably a lot more indictments before going for the jugular (Trump and his family). I think we're likely months away from Mueller's report, unfortunately.

Racket wrote:

Why do you always post in near iambic pentameter?

My alter ego is Bic Pentameter.

My catch phrase is "I am Bic Pentameter!"

Sally Vix wrote:

P wrote:

Thanks for that brilliant insight. I am sure that the IPCC will be thrilled to hear of your breakthrough here. No doubt there is a Nobel prize in your future.

I would not accept the Nobel Prize if awarded to me. To award one to Obama before he even did anything just tarnished the award to no end.

Well, at the very least you need to share your amazing insight with the folks working with the IPCC. I am quite certain that they have never considered, let alone taken into account, this valuable piece of information of yours.

So, Nobel Prize or not, make sure to enlighten those of lesser intellectual aptitude. You can revolutionize the field!

Sally Vix wrote:

What an idiotic thing to say. Someone who is innocent and keeps proclaiming his or her innocence is guilty? ? So an innocent person should just proclaim his or her innocence just one time then remain silent? Idiotic.

You claim your innocence when you are accused of something or if charges are pressed against you.

You don't go around randomly saying you are innocent of things you haven't been charged with.

If a reporter asked him about collusion and he said no collusion that would be one thing.

But tweeting it and saying it unprompted is a bit paranoid.

jesseriley wrote:

Trump voters are whining about their prez: “A dingo ate my baby!”

Not sure if you know - but a dingo did indeed eat that particular baby.

L L wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Well, you may just be right that there will be more than one Mueller Report. I really hope he tells us what is going on with regard to conspiracy...I mean it IS the core part of the investigation.

There may be no reports.

Just a continuous investigation.

Flynn and Gates still have to be sentenced.

Roger Stone still has to be tried.

The Trump kids may have pending charges.

Trump never faced back and forth questioning.

Same story as several months ago.

I don't see an end in sight.

Looks like we can play this game through November 2020, easily.

The thing is, Trump keeps acting guilty.

He can't just shut up for some reason. An Innocent person doesn't keep saying they are innocent unprompted.

All of that might be the reason there needs to be at least an interim report if not multiple reports.

Don Jr. is going to get it for sure. I suspect Eric and Ivanka as well as Kushner will be indicted for something (Kushner for conspiracy and ultimately likely money laundering); of all of them, Ivanka and Eric are the most likely to skate).

I don't think The Orange One will ever face back and forth questioning, because he is a target at this point.

You could be right that this goes on until November 2020. I have said of all the things I might be wrong about, the timing is the most likely...but as of today I still say we find out bad enough stuff with enough time for him to be out before the 2020 election.

Racket wrote:

The average American has never really cared much about policy. In fact, if I had to choose a group of people who knew the least about what's good for the country, I would choose the average American voter.

The average American voter is not a group.

Genius! I can’t match your wordsmithing!

nontrumper wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Good grief. How long does it take him to just tell all he knows?

The investigation is YUGE and very complex. Mueller gets one shot at Trump and his family. I think reports that Mueller is close to wrapping up have been incorrect. Maybe even leaks from the WH/Trump allies, trying to frustrate the public. Investigation fatigue. Probably a lot more indictments before going for the jugular (Trump and his family). I think we're likely months away from Mueller's report, unfortunately.

Clearly SOME of the reports of him wrapping up soon were not correct as "soon" has passed for some of those reports. There are some things now that are tough to overlook...the ever-shrinking size of Mueller's team (I was going to say "staff", but someone would nastify that...yes, nastify), and the fact that really only big dogs remain. Hard to know though how long it takes to wrap up even if the bulk of the investigation is complete.

I hope that justice is served, and I believe it will be and that Trump and his family will suffer greatly for their crooked ways.

Usually primary voters are more in tuned to policy. I think though that changes when primary turnout is up. So we will see what happens.

Alan

Obvi wrote:

Racket wrote:

The average American has never really cared much about policy. In fact, if I had to choose a group of people who knew the least about what's good for the country, I would choose the average American voter.

The average American voter is not a group.

You're not a group

Flagpole wrote:

All of that might be the reason there needs to be at least an interim report if not multiple reports.

But what's an interim report if it doesn't draw a conclusion (on collusion)? So much confusion.

I feel each indictment is an interim report.

They are saying that Rick Gates is still working with Mueller on cooperation ahead of his sentencing.

Do you give a report and still follow up on those leads later?

Flagpole wrote:

Clearly SOME of the reports of him wrapping up soon were not correct as "soon" has passed for some of those reports. There are some things now that are tough to overlook...the ever-shrinking size of Mueller's team (I was going to say "staff", but someone would nastify that...yes, nastify), and the fact that really only big dogs remain. Hard to know though how long it takes to wrap up even if the bulk of the investigation is complete.

I hope that justice is served, and I believe it will be and that Trump and his family will suffer greatly for their crooked ways.

Mueller also extended the grand jury for 6 months, so that's another sign that they aren't wrapping up any time soon. I think the idea of an interim report is certainly a possibility.

This is a vast international investigation and, in reality, is moving quite quickly. Just not fast enough for my liking, but I understand the importance of getting it right.

jesseriley wrote:

Trump crying all over his latest tweets as he’s abused terribly by Mueller. Mommy mommy, I’ve been raped by the Special Counsel! Boo hoo, boo hoo...

You are one overly-consumed messed up freak! Get a life you biased turd!

L L wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

All of that might be the reason there needs to be at least an interim report if not multiple reports.

But what's an interim report if it doesn't draw a conclusion (on collusion)? So much confusion.

I feel each indictment is an interim report.

They are saying that Rick Gates is still working with Mueller on cooperation ahead of his sentencing.

Do you give a report and still follow up on those leads later?

The interim report MIGHT draw conclusions on some things but not others...perhaps on Obstruction of justice and perjury and suborning perjury and witness tampering and Emoluments Clause violation but perhaps not on all the other financial crimes or conspiracy. I'm not suggesting there will be multiple reports, just presenting a situation that might make it a reality. If you have criminal activity dead to rights, you don't necessarily want the criminal to go free until ALL loose ends of ALL his criminal activity are tied up. Might be better for an impeachment process if that were possible, but perhaps it isn't possible.

Regardless, he's probably not guilty of anything more than Obama or the Clintons were. But please just come to a decision and let's move on already. This thread has taken over my life---I'm obsessed.

L L wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

What an idiotic thing to say. Someone who is innocent and keeps proclaiming his or her innocence is guilty? ? So an innocent person should just proclaim his or her innocence just one time then remain silent? Idiotic.

You claim your innocence when you are accused of something or if charges are pressed against you.

You don't go around randomly saying you are innocent of things you haven't been charged with.

If a reporter asked him about collusion and he said no collusion that would be one thing.

But tweeting it and saying it unprompted is a bit paranoid.

An innocent man does not fire or threaten most of the people investigating him.

Sheesh.

Racket wrote:

Obvi wrote:

The average American voter is not a group.

You're not a group

And you're a mindless twit. Do you even run chubby? I thought not.

That extension was reported Jan. 4, so over 2 months ago...so less than 4 months left for the grand jury MAX unless he extends again. That's not that much longer, especially if he doesn't really need all of that time. We will just have to wait and see. I am patient.