It only gets worse. Press relations, straight downhill. Inauguration that no one attended cost more than any other, millions of dollars disappeared. Trump’s statements loopier by the day.
It only gets worse. Press relations, straight downhill. Inauguration that no one attended cost more than any other, millions of dollars disappeared. Trump’s statements loopier by the day.
agip wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
Well, where are all the Liberals in Congress and here on this site that said it was a "manufactured crisis????" At that rate you would have 900,000 illegal felons crossing in one year. A wall would not make much difference? Israel put a wall on its southern border and illegal crossings was cut by 98%. A wall is definitely needed and the people who have been poo-pooing a wall need to come clean and say they were wrong.
you have this weird view that a wall would stop illegal immigration. Ok, hey go with it. It seems to make you happy.
but you know that there is also a crisis where there is a wall, which blows up your entire argument.
Let me correct you. There is a FENCE, not a wall.
Sally Vix wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
There’s that insane comparison again. Besides, has trump been advocating for a smart fence? And if you claim he has.... has he explained how he’ll get that done across our humongous and very different border?
The southern border is 1954 miles. There is, I believe, about 700 miles of existing fence or barrier already. So that leaves about 1200 miles of border unprotected. BUT, much of the southern border has terrain so treacherous that no terrain is needed. So, maybe only 700 miles of fencing or barrier is needed. That seems highly doable.
The Israeli comparison is ignorant. It’s much shorter and it’s policed.
Alan
fair african american from the D wrote:
1100 wrote:
Some things never change.
Yep, but you left out the most important part. I was there, you weren't.
Do you realize how many African Americans were there because of Obama? You're clueless. I am African American and live in Michigan. I'm also a fair person who looks at both sides of everything. I voted for Obama the first time and drove to D.C. like 1000's of other African Americans throughout the country. I didn't vote for him the second time as he totally changed his political promises.
A HUGE number of those people were African Americans, the same ones who wouldn't show up to any other inauguration before. I know, because myself, my neighbors and friends never went before. We were celebrating history. Your link doesn't tell the truth, because you don't want the truth.
Triggered liar ^
Runningart2004 wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
The southern border is 1954 miles. There is, I believe, about 700 miles of existing fence or barrier already. So that leaves about 1200 miles of border unprotected. BUT, much of the southern border has terrain so treacherous that no terrain is needed. So, maybe only 700 miles of fencing or barrier is needed. That seems highly doable.
The Israeli comparison is ignorant. It’s much shorter and it’s policed.
Alan
The Israeli comparison proves that walls or fencing or barriers DO work. Are you saying that the southern border is not policed? Sure, it is considerably longer but 100,000 illegals attempting to cross each MONTH IS a crisis. To say that it is not is ridiculous.
1100 wrote:
fair african american from the D wrote:
Yep, but you left out the most important part. I was there, you weren't.
Do you realize how many African Americans were there because of Obama? You're clueless. I am African American and live in Michigan. I'm also a fair person who looks at both sides of everything. I voted for Obama the first time and drove to D.C. like 1000's of other African Americans throughout the country. I didn't vote for him the second time as he totally changed his political promises.
A HUGE number of those people were African Americans, the same ones who wouldn't show up to any other inauguration before. I know, because myself, my neighbors and friends never went before. We were celebrating history. Your link doesn't tell the truth, because you don't want the truth.
Triggered liar ^
I'm a flamer, so I call everyone a liar if I'm not smart enough to understand their point. I guess I'm a triggered sissy boy after all.
Flagpole is my boyfriend and leader. I am a triggered flamer for life. Please help me as I'm a liberal trapped in a male/female body.
Clintonettes are NOT Americans!!!
Sally Vix wrote:
Runningart2004 wrote:
The Israeli comparison is ignorant. It’s much shorter and it’s policed.
Alan
The Israeli comparison proves that walls or fencing or barriers DO work. Are you saying that the southern border is not policed? Sure, it is considerably longer but 100,000 illegals attempting to cross each MONTH IS a crisis. To say that it is not is ridiculous.
No it’s not policed to the extent the Israeli border is. That’s why the Israeli barriers work. It’s basically a military operation.
Here’s my immigration solution:
1. Barriers where they make sense along populated areas. TX is gonna be a no go unless the land owner wants it.
2. Mandatory E Verify for all employers in America.
3. Increased number of border agents so at a minimum a small post can be manned every 20mi.
4. Increased judges and ability to process cases. Increase asylum approvals.
5. Increase Visas.
Bring em all in, just bring em all in legally
Are you against increased legal immigration?
Alan
1100 wrote:
Clintonettes are NOT Americans!!!
Triggered beyond belief liar ^
Fence sitter wrote:
agip wrote:
you have this weird view that a wall would stop illegal immigration. Ok, hey go with it. It seems to make you happy.
but you know that there is also a crisis where there is a wall, which blows up your entire argument.
Let me correct you. There is a FENCE, not a wall.
A wall is worthless. That has been known for more than a thousand years.
http://historywallcharts.eu/resources/uploads/thumbs/_DSF0873-Edit__924x0__.jpghttp://users.bestweb.net/~jfgm/BattleOfPelennorFieldsExtras/images/Siege%20of%20Vienna%202.jpghttp://gamequiche.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/helms_deep_orcs-on-wall.jpghttps://i.pinimg.com/originals/97/d7/09/97d7093b3f83f0fd45c74439d8b74d8c.jpgRunningart2004 wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
The southern border is 1954 miles. There is, I believe, about 700 miles of existing fence or barrier already. So that leaves about 1200 miles of border unprotected. BUT, much of the southern border has terrain so treacherous that no terrain is needed. So, maybe only 700 miles of fencing or barrier is needed. That seems highly doable.
The Israeli comparison is ignorant. It’s much shorter and it’s policed.
Alan
the Israeli comparison is actually stupid - there aren't tens of thousands of peaceful people asking for asylum on the Israeli/occupied territory border...people don't want to cross that border. Whereas here we have substantial demand for peaceful immigration, and by law we have to take people if they ask for asylum.
And yeah. the israeli wall works b/c technology, manpower and big guns.
the two main keys are
1) Work with Guatemala and other nations to give people a fighting chance to make a living there. Foreign aid. If things improve there, the flow out to the US will fall. That's why the flow from Mexico has gone negative - Mexico is becoming prosperous so young people will stay,
2) work permits.
or go hardcore and 3) jail people who employ illegals.
1100 wrote:
1100 wrote:
Clintonettes are NOT Americans!!!
I'm a Clintonette and I'm triggered beyond belief and a liar ^
Triggered indeed! LOL!!!
Derp wall wrote:
Fence sitter wrote:
Let me correct you. There is a FENCE, not a wall.
A wall is worthless. That has been known for more than a thousand years.
http://historywallcharts.eu/resources/uploads/thumbs/_DSF0873-Edit__924x0__.jpghttp://users.bestweb.net/~jfgm/BattleOfPelennorFieldsExtras/images/Siege%20of%20Vienna%202.jpghttp://gamequiche.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/helms_deep_orcs-on-wall.jpghttps://i.pinimg.com/originals/97/d7/09/97d7093b3f83f0fd45c74439d8b74d8c.jpg
I meant to say a Wall has worth but a fence doesn't. My bad.
fair african american from the D wrote:
1100 wrote:
Some things never change.
Yep, but you left out the most important part. I was there, you weren't.
Do you realize how many African Americans were there because of Obama? You're clueless. I am African American and live in Michigan. I'm also a fair person who looks at both sides of everything. I voted for Obama the first time and drove to D.C. like 1000's of other African Americans throughout the country. I didn't vote for him the second time as he totally changed his political promises.
A HUGE number of those people were African Americans, the same ones who wouldn't show up to any other inauguration before. I know, because myself, my neighbors and friends never went before. We were celebrating history. Your link doesn't tell the truth, because you don't want the truth.
Fair post. Unlike the lying liberals who don't know what they believe, I believe you sir. Great post. Alan and the clown pole nuts only have a liking to their ideology, but no one else's. Your post makes perfect sense.
Plus, if trump doesn’t get his wall, he’ll cry.
jesseriley wrote:
Plus, when Hillary didn't get her fence/barrier, she cried.
Fixed my own post. Sorry.
agip wrote:
Runningart2004 wrote:
The Israeli comparison is ignorant. It’s much shorter and it’s policed.
Alan
the Israeli comparison is actually stupid - there aren't tens of thousands of peaceful people asking for asylum on the Israeli/occupied territory border...people don't want to cross that border.
The fence Israel has along its southern border IS NOT what has illegal crossing down by 98%. It is the guards they have along the border every few kilometers that keep the crossings down. Trumpers are idiots for not understand how the 98% was achieved. The Trump Wall of Ego will not stop crossings. A fence, which already exists where it is needed, and better security (rapid response) are now to stop illegal crossing.
Kirstjen Nielsen, is another idiot, for peddling the nonsense that illegals at the border increase by 30k last month. They ARE NOT illegal crossers. They are asylum seekers waiting on the other side of the border to legally cross into the US.
guards. wrote:
agip wrote:
the Israeli comparison is actually stupid - there aren't tens of thousands of peaceful people asking for asylum on the Israeli/occupied territory border...people don't want to cross that border.
The fence Israel has along its southern border IS NOT what has illegal crossing down by 98%. It is the guards they have along the border every few kilometers that keep the crossings down. Trumpers are idiots for not understand how the 98% was achieved. The Trump Wall of Ego will not stop crossings. A fence, which already exists where it is needed, and better security (rapid response) are now to stop illegal crossing.
Kirstjen Nielsen, is another idiot, for peddling the nonsense that illegals at the border increase by 30k last month. They ARE NOT illegal crossers. They are asylum seekers waiting on the other side of the border to legally cross into the US.
Sure, like Hillary's Fence/Wall of EGO.
We get it, just pick on Trump because you voted for Hillary and you're an uninformed liberal...we understand completely mate!
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