Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

agip wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

NEW YORK TIMES: "None of Ms. Swetnick’s claims could be independently corroborated by The New York Times, and her lawyer, Michael Avenatti, declined to make her available for an interview."

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/26/us/politics/julie-swetnick-avenatti-kavenaugh.html

your new argument is that if it isn't in the NYT...it's not true?

great! I'll remind you of that the next time you bleat about the liberal media.

There's a strawman if I ever saw one?

agip wrote:

the religious right continues to shame itself: Every chance they get, they favor the assaulter, the liar, the cheater, the con man, the fraud, the jerk.

what is it with those christians? they clearly don't take their religion seriously. or it is perverting them. I don't know.

"Christians" . . . snicker, snicker.

agip wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

The biggest take is that Julie Swetnick supposedly knew girls were being raped by trains of boys at these parties but kept on going to them. And even though countless girls got raped at these parties, nobody talked and this is the first time this gets into the open?

You must be a moran to believe this garbage.

This woman is a liar.

ok now you explain why hundreds of female gymnasts kept going to a massage guy who systematically sexually abused them. And yes, he admitted it, eventually.

Then! You can get to explaining why millions of kids kept going to Catholic churches despite decades (centuries?) of abuse and coverups. And yes the church admits the abuse, eventually.

then we can talk about this one girl's decisions.

1) They were underage and parents pressured them. 100s stopped going to him. He was an adult figure.

2) They were kids. Parents were forcing them to go to Church. Priests are in a position of leadership.

Next question.

Guy who says . . . wrote:

agip wrote:

the religious right continues to shame itself: Every chance they get, they favor the assaulter, the liar, the cheater, the con man, the fraud, the jerk.

what is it with those christians? they clearly don't take their religion seriously. or it is perverting them. I don't know.

"Christians" . . . snicker, snicker.

fair point.

they are really racial separatists, more than anything else.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

agip wrote:

your new argument is that if it isn't in the NYT...it's not true?

great! I'll remind you of that the next time you bleat about the liberal media.

The biggest take is that Julie Swetnick supposedly knew girls were being raped by trains of boys at these parties but kept on going to them. And even though countless girls got raped at these parties, nobody talked and this is the first time this gets into the open?

You must be a moran to believe this garbage.

This woman is a liar.

There are definitely some things in her story that need to be cleared up.

But millions of teenage girls go to house parties. It's always a dangerous thing to do and they go anyway. It doesn't mean she is lying.

We are about 24 hours away from peak TDS. A mob of deranged liberals will descend on the Capitol steps to protest the first virgin 'rapist' in human history. The camera whoring porn shyster Avenatti and his newest fake accuser client will ensure a Kavanaugh nomination.

Shortly after, Democrats may sober to the realization--they've gone too far. Talk about something back-firing....

Hardloper wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Nope. Provide more so I can go find out that it's not true.

This is the story I'm talking about. I'm not trying to make it about Hillary BTW, it is just the example that came to mind.

https://www.npr.org/2016/11/03/500480069/the-story-behind-a-campaign-line-did-clinton-laugh-at-a-rape-victim

Your assertion is "mostly false"/

Since yo' asked. wrote:

agip wrote:

ok now you explain why hundreds of female gymnasts kept going to a massage guy who systematically sexually abused them. And yes, he admitted it, eventually.

Then! You can get to explaining why millions of kids kept going to Catholic churches despite decades (centuries?) of abuse and coverups. And yes the church admits the abuse, eventually.

then we can talk about this one girl's decisions.

1) They were underage and parents pressured them. 100s stopped going to him. He was an adult figure.

2) They were kids. Parents were forcing them to go to Church. Priests are in a position of leadership.

Next question.

some gymnasts were minors, some were fully adults. That doesn't fly. easier to sweep under the rug than confront. same with this kav accuser. You want to be in the crowd, having fun. it wasn't 100% rapes all the time...you tell yourself it won't happen to you.

as for the church - the point is that it's always easier to sweep these things under the rug - to say 'aw i heard about what happned to Jimmy but it won't happen to my kid.' Same here. girls hearing what happned to other girls...they saying 'that would never happen to me" until it does.

we all do this. Hell runners are the worst - 'I'll go out way too fast every week, because everyone else does it - maybe this time I won't die in the last mile.'

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

We are about 24 hours away from peak TDS. A mob of deranged liberals will descend on the Capitol steps to protest the first virgin 'rapist' in human history. The camera whoring porn shyster Avenatti and his newest fake accuser client will ensure a Kavanaugh nomination.

Shortly after, Democrats may sober to the realization--they've gone too far. Talk about something back-firing....

i see you won't answer my q.

fine.

I'll agree that some dems have behaved badly here.

Fat hurts wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

The biggest take is that Julie Swetnick supposedly knew girls were being raped by trains of boys at these parties but kept on going to them. And even though countless girls got raped at these parties, nobody talked and this is the first time this gets into the open?

You must be a moran to believe this garbage.

This woman is a liar.

There are definitely some things in her story that need to be cleared up.

But millions of teenage girls go to house parties. It's always a dangerous thing to do and they go anyway. It doesn't mean she is lying.

Kinda "hurts" her case, if there are no witnesses to corroborate these allegations, Facts hurt.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

There are definitely some things in her story that need to be cleared up.

But millions of teenage girls go to house parties. It's always a dangerous thing to do and they go anyway. It doesn't mean she is lying.

Kinda "hurts" her case, if there are no witnesses to corroborate these allegations, Facts hurt.

absence of witnesses doesn't mean an assault didn't happen.

or do you want to start agreeing that bill clinton never assaulted anyone, since there are no witnessses and you know, facts hurt.

Flagpole's Bias wrote:

Hardloper wrote:

This is the story I'm talking about. I'm not trying to make it about Hillary BTW, it is just the example that came to mind.

https://www.npr.org/2016/11/03/500480069/the-story-behind-a-campaign-line-did-clinton-laugh-at-a-rape-victim

Flagpole ignores anything against Hillary Clinton and says "she wasn't charged", so that makes her innocent. So then, the same rules apply to Donald Trump.

Hillary was investigated for many things and never found guilty of any crime. What more do you need? I have faith in the justice system even though it isn't perfect. If Trump gets through all of this and it is found he is not a criminal I will agree with that unlike those who continue to say Hillary is a criminal. Right now, the evidence strongly points to the fact that Trump is a criminal. Cohen has implicated Trump as having committed two felonies. If he weren't President, he would have been indicted already.

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

There are definitely some things in her story that need to be cleared up.

But millions of teenage girls go to house parties. It's always a dangerous thing to do and they go anyway. It doesn't mean she is lying.

Kinda "hurts" her case, if there are no witnesses to corroborate these allegations, Facts hurt.

They claim that there are two people who can corroborate the allegations. We should wait and see what they have to say.

I wasn't quick to believe Dr. Ford either. But once I saw the four affidavits corroborating her story I found it to be extremely unlikely that she was lying.

We'll see if this latest accuser is just as credible.

Debate Club wrote:

There's a strawman if I ever saw one?

You have no clue what the words straw and man mean, let alone strawman.

Crawl back into your troll hole, dude.

FDR wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Actually it appears an unnamed person is in contact with a county in Maryland and is deciding whether or not to file charges. The person has accused Kavanaugh of sexual misconduct, and the county is looking to see if this indeed happened in their county. It is also unclear is this person is Avenatti's client or a 4th accuser.

flagpole has gone off the deep end.

March, wait till Summer. Summer, wait till Fall. Fall, wait till ???

What a degenerate loser.

I have never said wait until March or Summer or Fall or any of that. I have ONLY said Trump will not make it to the end of his term.

Flagpole wrote:

Hardloper wrote:

This is the story I'm talking about. I'm not trying to make it about Hillary BTW, it is just the example that came to mind.

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Your assertion is "mostly false"/

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Okay, I thought the sentence was reduced because it was downgraded from "rape" to something lesser. Apparently the sentence was reduced due to a plea deal, so I was technically wrong. That doesn't change the point about the polygraph though.

Howdy! wrote:

but hillary . . . wrote:

The expect, "But Hillary . . . " defense. The usual Hardloper defensive when he has lost.

WHAT THE HEY?: Why have you suddenly crawled out of the woodwork (troll hole) and started posting in this thread using your real name? You have previously stated you "rarely, if ever" post here. Now you seem to have the need to post a lot...and post DURING you work day? You do have a full-time job. Your employer may be watching. Keep safe. Avoid posting while at work.

Hi Flagpole.

Why not post under Flagpole instead.

Nope. Not me.

WEJO, DO AN IP CHECK, AND IF I LIE, BAN ME FOR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

agip wrote:

Rigged for Hillary wrote:

Kinda "hurts" her case, if there are no witnesses to corroborate these allegations, Facts hurt.

absence of witnesses doesn't mean an assault didn't happen.

or do you want to start agreeing that bill clinton never assaulted anyone, since there are no witnessses and you know, facts hurt.

Why was Julie Swetnick (who was a COLLEGE student and an adult) at the time going out of her way to hang out with 15,16, 17 y/o high school kids known for gang raping women and spiking punch? And why did she not call the police to stop girls from being abused? This is nothing but hearsay.

That's the problem with some of you libs, you don't step back and look at the whole picture .

agip wrote:

the religious right continues to shame itself: Every chance they get, they favor the assaulter, the liar, the cheater, the con man, the fraud, the jerk.

what is it with those christians? they clearly don't take their religion seriously. or it is perverting them. I don't know.

It is really insane and one of the reasons I have moved away from considering myself a "Christian".