Amherst Cross Country Team Suspended Following Email Chain

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  • osm
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    3 years ago 12/11/2016 10:52pm CST
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    A student publication at Amherst College published some sexually explicit, misogynistic emails that had been sent by members of the cross country team.

    https://theindicator.wordpress.amherst.edu/special-reports/mens-cross-country-maintained-misogynistic-racist-email-chain#more-332

    Following this report, the Amherst athletic director has suspended all team activities.

    https://www.amherst.edu/amherst-story/president/statements/node/669099

    Sounds very similar to the Harvard soccer case, but now it's happened in our sport as well. Discus.
  • MAGA
    3 years ago 12/12/2016 12:28am CST
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    Already happened with the Harvard XC team.
  • ofkfk
    3 years ago 12/12/2016 2:32am CST
    re: osm
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    Is there actual misogyny in there or is this a case of liberals not knowing what the definitions of words are yet again?
  • A'suh Dude
    3 years ago 12/12/2016 3:49am CST
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    ofkfk wrote:

    Is there actual misogyny in there or is this a case of liberals not knowing what the definitions of words are yet again?

    No one asked for your political opinion, bud. Why don't you just read the article and find out?
  • H.S. Coach #6543
    3 years ago 12/12/2016 5:27am CST
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    A very good editorial from the campus newspaper too: https://theindicator.wordpress.amherst.edu/special-reports/editorial-after-mens-xc-email-examine-all-athlete-spaces
  • disgusting animals
    3 years ago 12/12/2016 5:27am CST
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    Anyone familiar with Amherst College and its male student body would not be in the least bit surprised by this revelation. That said, the new POTUS speaks and behaves very similarly so what's good for the goose is good for the gander, no?
  • Any indication
    3 years ago 12/12/2016 8:01am CST
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    H.S. Coach #6543 wrote:

    A very good editorial from the campus newspaper too: https://theindicator.wordpress.amherst.edu/special-reports/editorial-after-mens-xc-email-examine-all-athlete-spaces

    The Indicator is actually the college's literary magazine, not its newspaper. This distinction may sound trivial, but the reality is that it's just another example of the modern decay of subjective sensationalism taking the place of objective journalism.
  • are you a jeff?
    3 years ago 12/12/2016 8:25am CST
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    Any indication wrote:

    H.S. Coach #6543 wrote:

    A very good editorial from the campus newspaper too: https://theindicator.wordpress.amherst.edu/special-reports/editorial-after-mens-xc-email-examine-all-athlete-spaces

    The Indicator is actually the college's literary magazine, not its newspaper. This distinction may sound trivial, but the reality is that it's just another example of the modern decay of subjective sensationalism taking the place of objective journalism.


    How did the source of the news (newspaper vs magazine) pre-determine the quality of the reporting here? I thought they did quite a good job actually.

    A bunch of racist, misogynistic kids got called out for having a horrible team culture. In what way was is that sensationalized?
  • Truth Tellor
    3 years ago 12/12/2016 8:28am CST
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    bunch of silver spooners that can't get laid complaining about women... hmmm where have i heard that before???
  • coachww
    3 years ago 12/12/2016 8:31am CST
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    are you a jeff? wrote:

    A bunch of BRAZEN racist, misogynistic kids got called out for having a horrible team culture. In what way was is that sensationalized?

    There's nothing more unbecoming than a bunch of privileged young men (using the term loosely) directing their unfounded anger at young women and other minorities.
  • Samsquanch
    3 years ago 12/12/2016 8:34am CST
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    LOL. Who sends emails anymore?
  • themanontherun
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    3 years ago 12/12/2016 9:16am CST
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    coachww wrote:
    There's nothing more unbecoming than a bunch of privileged young men (using the term loosely) directing their unfounded anger at young women and other minorities.

    Agreed. By contrast, less privileged people, women, and minorities would never do that towards privileged white males, publicly or privately. So for these guys to crack unseemly jokes in a private email chain is totally out of line.
  • coachww
    3 years ago 12/12/2016 9:22am CST
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    themanontherun wrote:So for these guys to crack unseemly jokes in a private email chain is totally out of line.

    A private email chain distributed to all incoming freshman ? And these "jokes" are not just "unseemly", they're abusive and dehumanizing.

    Oh, and two wrongs don't make a right. You should have learned that in preschool.
  • PaulyJSmith
    3 years ago 12/12/2016 9:31am CST
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    Kids are idiots these day. Snitching on themselves. Went to Assumption College in the early 00's. We weren't that good, but we banged the girls team, had parties and didn't get in too much trouble because we didn't leave a paper trail of being idiots.
  • pauly is correct
    3 years ago 12/12/2016 9:38am CST
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    I am not sure that the behavior of 18-21 year old males in a college setting will ever change.

    What I think is foolish is leaving an electronic trail, especially at a progressive effete place like Amherst.
  • sbeefyk1
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    3 years ago 12/12/2016 9:40am CST
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    disgusting animals wrote:

    Anyone familiar with Amherst College and its male student body would not be in the least bit surprised by this revelation. That said, the new POTUS speaks and behaves very similarly so what's good for the goose is good for the gander, no?

    Yup, how can we punish others for saying and doing the same thing the President says and does?
  • Fools! All of you
    3 years ago 12/12/2016 9:41am CST
    re: osm
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    They deserve to be suspended for attending a preftigious college like Amherst while simultaneously being so dumb as to create an email chain like this.
  • Coochie
    3 years ago 12/12/2016 9:45am CST
    re: osm
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    Now there's thought police working! Based on the five or six quotes the article provided, I only thought one was blatantly inappropriate. They mentioned the quote, "she's a walking std." Really? That's mysoggynistic? Anyone who has a problem with this needs their head checked. If anything, they are saved from getting an std by someone saying this and avoiding the promiscuous individual. Every single men's sports team has said these things at one time or another. Guaranteed. The difference here is that it's written in an email, so there's "proof." Sure, we should not be racist or hateful towards a group. But there also a line between joking and hate. Also a double standard that no women's team would ever be punished for their crazy emails about guys.
  • ofkfk
    3 years ago 12/12/2016 9:47am CST
    re: A'suh Dude
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    A'suh Dude wrote:

    No one asked for your political opinion, bud. Why don't you just read the article and find out?

    It wasn't a political opinion. Because I don't want to risk wasting time on something that isn't actually misogyny.
  • Count Back
    3 years ago 12/12/2016 10:01am CST
    re: Fools! All of you
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    Civilization seems to be backtracking