Alan Webb 800m At Florida????

i have read all kind of bashing on this kid's out come and i usually don't post stuff and just read these out of curiousity and see what people feel about a success and future HOPE for thier own country. see in african when little kip or little haile come out trying to do someting for themselves and their country, noone bashes and put a pressure on them and make them feel bad like they don't from racing. i doubt some of you here are runners and know what it takes when you talk shit like anyone can pop out 1:52 after not racing for so long. so be considerate and let him do his job and you got no part of that. just sit back and enjoy it mofo's

considering that it was webbs first race back, he ran fine, his times will come down, he probably has been logging alot of miles and strength and endurance work. Foot-speed is where his training lacks and it should. He is training for the olympics, not the gator relays

Interesting analysis of Webb's mistakes and difficulties in that race. These all seem like great lessons learned. In fact, they seem a lot like the lessons learned from a college track and field career. Now he has to learn those lessons as a professional, where more is expected from him.

As for Warhurst bad-mouthing. For anyone who knows him, he tells it like it is, without malice or intent to defame anyone. He wanted Webb to stay and develop. Webb did not. Why are we so quick to side with an 18 year old kid who might not necessarily have known what was best for his future development?

Contrary to popular belief, Ron Warhurst was a successful college coach long before Alan Webb came along. He might just have a little insight into what works for the development of a young athlete.

So if he makes a few comments saying 'good luck to the kid, but I think he is making a mistake', which is what I have heard and read, why should this be such a big problem? He never said the guy sucks. He said he has unbelievable talent, and if he can train hard AND SMART, the sky's the limit.

Dare he say 3:48? I am sure Ron thought he had the ability to run that fast when he said it. That does not mean he will run it the following week. It means that Webb is a special athlete, and if all goes well, he could be great.

I see nothing wrong with Warhurst's comments. I do see something wrong with a coach whose track record speaks for itself being defamed by a lot of people on a message board that don't know what they are talking about. Many of the naysayers seem to think that collegiate track and field BEGAN in the 21st century.

Study your history before you mouth off.

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"and to the people who pay to see him perform"

just for your info...It was no charge to watch the races at UF this weekend, so that rules out him having to talk to the reporters afterwords...and secondly...After reviewing my video of the race a few times...webb was stuck at the back from the get go...and after the first lap he surged on each straight away for the next 2 laps and would pass three people and look like he could move up...and then was shoved to the side on the turns and flung to the back again...I wouldn't count this race as a bad experience...i say its the best thing for him...he learned alot...and i say from the way the race went, him running in near 3rd lane on the turns and surging on the straights, he could have should have run 3+,4 seconds faster if he had only jumped off the line when the gun went off instead of crawl. but thats just my opinion...I can't wait to see him this summer! Its gonna be a real experience for him and great for the good old U.S. of A!

ttc wrote:

DLT:

Warhurst publicly stated that Webb's maturity was a question as a pro, he stated that Webb was at fault for calling home while he was injured and he also threw 3:48 mile times out there for everyone to see, setting up Webb to fail.

Oh yea, he also was part of that same article (Brannen over Webb) which spent paragraphs taking shots at Webb and outlining how the team was better off without him, because he ran his workouts too hard.

Now his best runner is continuously running workouts/races with a bad achilles tendon.

Not talking to the media after a bad race does not compare to the above.

Webb's maturity sure came out this weekend both on and off the track...so score 1 for Warhurst there.

As for the 3:48 comment, I believe you are talking about the MISQUOTE of webb being in 3:31 shape.

The team finished higher this year without Webb than it did last year with him at the NCAA champs...score another 1 for RW.

RW does not watch over his athletes 24/7 and he cannot control what they say or do not say to the media. He can suggest they stay away from certain topics but in the end those athletes have every right to speak their mind...we have that right here in America.

And as has been posted numerous times by Kevin Sullivan, Ron's best runner has not been continually racing on a bad achilles. Sullivan stated clearly that the problem was cleared up when the DMR arrived in Boston, plus Brannen had the option to pull out if he wanted to. (Plus I would argrue that Broe, Sullivan, McMullen or Berryhill should be labeled RW's best athlete)

You have this perverse fascination with bringing down a man you know nothing about despite his current and former athletes standing behind him and shooting down every one of you misguided arguments.

For you to feel that Webb doesn't have an obligation to the media is just naive. He is making $250k/yr, is Nike's poster boy for the future of distance running in America. Yet he acts like a spoiled crybaby brat when he has a bad race....and it is not the first time it has happened.

I would just like to go on the record saying that I think Warhurst IS a good coach AND I think Webb made a good decision.

I have seen what Sullivan has done and heard what he has to say so I don't doubt the Michigan program.

If Webb had doubts about the training there then it is better for him to be in a position that makes him feel more confident. Also, if he HAS peaked in High School then it is better to take the money when it is there as opposed to having a bad college career and no offers when he is done.

I am pulling for Webb all the way but I won't make excuses for this past race. It wasn't good. We will all be watching for USATF Nationals in June.

It was GAGS that said that Warhurst should be able to get Webb under 3.31 last year. Let's keep these quotes accurate.

how does sullivan know what is going on with brannan's achilles?

lance wrote:

how does sullivan know what is going on with brannan's achilles?

He is coached by the same coach (so I am assuming they are in pretty constant communication), was out in boston and hanging with the Michigan boys to get all the scoop, and then posted it when the latest round of RW bashing started

Let's all remember one thing, I think I'm repeating what Steve Scott said. Alan Webb is still only 19 or 20 years old. He is still a young young kid. Most everyone has off days, it just happens. I'm pretty sure Webb has just been logging miles at altitude like T&F said. It will come, It will come. I just hope he does not get down on himself over a 1:52. He needs to take it in stride and continue with this program I think will lead to very fast times in the summer. I mean Worlds are in August this year correct? That is ah pretty far away and I think Webb's training is gearing towards that, not the Gator Indoor.

Remember! Billy Mills was getting LAPPED in indoor races during the year that he went on to win the Olympic 10km.

We all have our bad days, and obviously Alan Webb had a bad day. Now it is over. Another race on the schedule to get ready for. Another chance to shine.

Rock on, Alan Webb!

jason

mayeroff wrote:

Remember! Billy Mills was getting LAPPED in indoor races during the year that he went on to win the Olympic 10km.

We all have our bad days, and obviously Alan Webb had a bad day. Now it is over. Another race on the schedule to get ready for. Another chance to shine.

Rock on, Alan Webb!

jason

Yeah but I remember David Krumenaker opening up with an American record indoors last year and going on to big things.

Why shouldn't these proffessionals be ready to run some decent times indoors?

If that is the case, how did he run 2:23? Not only that... but he should have run the 3k not an 800 if all he has been doing is base work. I mean the kid did run sub 8:50 in high school, didn't he? In indoors, nonetheless.