Ex wants me to father a child that she will raise without me.

This reminds me of the court case a few years ago. Guy did this for his lesbian friend. Many years down the road, the lesbians are having money trouble and they sue him for child support.

Here it is:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/23/justice/kansas-sperm-donation/

A Kansas sperm donor caught in the middle of a child support case says he wanted to help a lesbian couple when he made the donation nearly five years ago. Instead, he may end up paying for his action.

A judge ruled that William Marotta must pay child support, even though he says he signed documents waiving his parental rights. Shawnee County District Court Judge Mary Mattivi said on Wednesday that Marotta failed to conform to Kansas law, which says a licensed physician must be involved in an artificial insemination process, court documents show. The documents show that the lesbian couple whom Marotta helped conceive a child say they performed the artificial insemination procedure at home.

nutty wrote:

sadd... wrote:

Also a fatherless child ... not a good idea its better to have both a male and female role models close. Tell her she is being egoistical. If she really wants a child she could adopt one many children need families. But to create a new one just for her wow...

So gays should not be allowed to raise children and nobody should be allowed to create new children because they should adopt. Wow.

Don't children deserve a mother and father as nature has ordained? Why is human reproduction not asexual? Why is human reproduction heterosexually-based?

That story is amazing. No more giving away free cupfuls of sperm to Craigslist randos for me.

random6 wrote:

Here it is:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/23/justice/kansas-sperm-donation/

A Kansas sperm donor caught in the middle of a child support case says he wanted to help a lesbian couple when he made the donation nearly five years ago. Instead, he may end up paying for his action.

A judge ruled that William Marotta must pay child support, even though he says he signed documents waiving his parental rights. Shawnee County District Court Judge Mary Mattivi said on Wednesday that Marotta failed to conform to Kansas law, which says a licensed physician must be involved in an artificial insemination process, court documents show. The documents show that the lesbian couple whom Marotta helped conceive a child say they performed the artificial insemination procedure at home.

ooiuyy wrote:

nutty wrote:

So gays should not be allowed to raise children and nobody should be allowed to create new children because they should adopt. Wow.

Don't children deserve a mother and father as nature has ordained? Why is human reproduction not asexual? Why is human reproduction heterosexually-based?

As nature ordained? That's pretty funny.

What nature ordained is that children would be raised within a group of 30 - 150 individuals, more than likely having no idea who his/her father was, scrabbling a living by hunting and gathering and more than likely getting devoured by a hyena before the age of 6.

Yes, you can tell the OP anything you like. But without knowing a heck of a lot more about his situation than you could possibly know from this thread your "I don't think he should purposely create the situation." is nothing but ignorance.

It can be done in a legally, and in all other ways, responsible way. It is up to the OP to determine whether in his situation it would be a good decision - not up to you or any of the other posters on this thread (including me).

Anti-American Dream wrote:

I have to imagine this is a troll thread. No one is this thoughtless.

If by some chance you are serious, I'll tell you this would be the greatest mistake you make in your adult life.

No one is this thoughtless? Think again.

Anti-American Dream wrote:

I have to imagine this is a troll thread. No one is this thoughtless.

If by some chance you are serious, I'll tell you this would be the greatest mistake you make in your adult life.

No one is this thoughtless? Think again.

What the What wrote:

ooiuyy wrote:

Don't children deserve a mother and father as nature has ordained? Why is human reproduction not asexual? Why is human reproduction heterosexually-based?

As nature ordained? That's pretty funny.

What nature ordained is that children would be raised within a group of 30 - 150 individuals, more than likely having no idea who his/her father was, scrabbling a living by hunting and gathering and more than likely getting devoured by a hyena before the age of 6.

Ummm, never heard of Natural Law Theory? According to Natural Law Theory, which is usually credited to the ancient Greeks so please don't try to blame some traditional tribe if you find it objectionable, sex in humans has a procreative and unitive function ( babies and bonding if you prefer). A "drive-by" pregnancy such as the OP has introduced is procreative but lacks unity. Has it ever dawned on you why breaking up is often the most difficult thing many people experience? Do you think it wise to have single-parents raise kids?

I suggest the last time you hooked up with this gal should be the last time you hook up with this girl until you get solid legal advice about your rights and responsibilities.

Find your legal standing them make up your mind.

Talk to an attorney. Not letsrun. Unless you did the former already.

Agree it's a mistake. Forget the lawyers and just don't do it. You and your progeny deserve better. Raising kids well is super difficult in just about every way. Don't do it on a whim, much less someone else's. If you really want to have a kid assume it will, and should be, the most important driver in your life by far, and make sure you are ready to handle the permanent responsibility, not just the practical, but also the emotional. Or not! What's one more on 7 billion?

Haven't read the thread so apologies if this has been brought up but go get a vasectomy and then hit it hard and hit it often.

Enjoy.

Just do it and let us know how it works out. Man up and take one for the team.

Do it this way wrote:

Haven't read the thread so apologies if this has been brought up but go get a vasectomy and then hit it hard and hit it often.

Enjoy.

And if this kid ever needs public assistance, let's send the bill to the dad and you.

retryZ wrote:

Do it this way wrote:

Haven't read the thread so apologies if this has been brought up but go get a vasectomy and then hit it hard and hit it often.

Enjoy.

And if this kid ever needs public assistance, let's send the bill to the dad and you.

You know what a vasectomy is right?

My brother did exactly this and signed all these contracts with attorneys etc, years later she sued for everything. The court did not give a crap about their contract. NOT A CRAp! Now he pays child support, back child support, day care, all her and his attorney fees etc etc. Oh and all you guys who love your Obama!!!!!!!don't get divorced now a days, they got a special power to nail you men now with huge Obama care in the divorce or custody case. He pays more for the heathcare than day care and child support combined. Don't believe it....wait till you young guys hit your divorce. Remember your vote for your boy.

Real Answers wrote:

Yes, the woman CAN waive child support but ONLY under the conditions that I specified in my post above.

Erm no. She can legally waive it. BUT the states can have HAVE overturned legal waivers and forced fathers to pay child support. Because states have ridiculously decided that "the best interest of the child" trumps any legal agreements or laws.

States have actually forced fathers that had their child ADOPTED AWAY still have to pay child support. And the kicker? Said father was not allowed to contact the child because he had waived his parental rights. Literally Massachusetts said that he waived his parental rights, but you cannot waive your parental duty to support a child.

This is mostly because the states don't want to give taxpayer money to support a child when they can just screw the father instead.

From a legal help site on this: "Children have a legal right to financial support from both parents. A parent can't avoid paying child support by agreeing to have their parental rights terminated or by agreeing not to have parenting time (visitation)."

What the What wrote:

ooiuyy wrote:

Don't children deserve a mother and father as nature has ordained? Why is human reproduction not asexual? Why is human reproduction heterosexually-based?

As nature ordained? That's pretty funny.

What nature ordained is that children would be raised within a group of 30 - 150 individuals, more than likely having no idea who his/her father was, scrabbling a living by hunting and gathering and more than likely getting devoured by a hyena before the age of 6.

You think humans are chimpanzee''s? There is a reason why humans have houses and chimpanzee''s are still cannibals. Humans evolved social behaviors that are not consistent with your version of human history.