Lol I'm moving form NJ to OR, thank track!
Lol I'm moving form NJ to OR, thank track!
he said it first wrote:
E. Bonix wrote:It's a thing called Boomer retirement.
First wave Boomers realizing their real estate wealth as they leave the work force and head to more temperate climates & slower paced lifestyles.
of course there are other reasons people move but retiree relocation will be a big part of population repositioning as the Boomers retire.
They are moving because democrats have raised taxes so high that the retired and young cant stay there.
Also populations follow the jobs. There is a reason why the state of New York has to run tv ads for companies to move there
The mass exodus only makes these areas more attractive, IMO.
I wish!!! wrote:
As a MA resident I really wish people would leave. I think in the Boston area it's the opposite. So many f*cking people everywhere. Traffic has become a nightmare in the last 5 years or so.
Traffic has become nightmarish in the last 5 years everywhere because of the low oil prices and cheap gas; Traffic is terrible in Portland, even on weekends the highways feel like they are in a perpetual state of rush hour all day.
The list is bogus. People are fleeing CA but the illegals flowing in keep the population rising slightly. CA now carries 36% of all welfare users in the US - and it's the states that provide welfare payments, not the feds. 58% of the Hispanic population pays zero income taxes, and this combined with the out of control pensions for so many public sector workers (librarians see their pension grow to 100k after 7 - 8 of retirement) and the real taxpayers running to TX, NV, ID etc, the state is going to collapse. The rest of the US will follow suit. Of course the PC fully cucked SJW's will jump to defend illegals etc, but as others have pointed out many times before; the SJW's are the type of coward that'll beg an illegal or a crip for forgiveness after said characters have murdered the SJW's parents right in front of them. lol
I'm native born and current resident of South Carolina, and I'm a little surprised SC is so high on the list, but even more surprised that we are ahead of NC. Charleston > Wimington, but Tri-cities or Charlotte > Columbia metro and Asheville > Greenville. OBX are about equal with best SC beaches (not dirty Myrtle, but Edisto-Beaufort-HH-Kiawah area) while the rest of both states are backwoods. NC mountains > SC hill country
I live 30 minutes outside of Boston and can't stand the traffic. People are terrible drivers and no one knows or follows the rules of the road. My wife and I have been saving for a down payment for a home for 2 years, we have about 60k now but that won't even cover PMI. The price of houses go up 100k every year even if they're old fixer uppers.
Man I can't wait to retire and move out of the city and into a rural area with no traffic. I don't live in a very big city, but it has been growing my whole life. I can't help but feel sad driving down the 6-lane-perpetually-busy streets that I remember being two lane roads when I was a kid.
I figure every State is fine to live in as long as you aren't in a city.
Just 30-40 more years to go to retirement...depending on the extent of our national bankruptcy by the end of my life.
It's the "empty nest" thing, too. A lot of people liked the Northeast suburbs because of the great schools for their kids, but when the kids grow up and leave, those places are pretty bleak. No reason to stick around.
80s kid wrote:
I live 30 minutes outside of Boston and can't stand the traffic. People are terrible drivers and no one knows or follows the rules of the road. My wife and I have been saving for a down payment for a home for 2 years, we have about 60k now but that won't even cover PMI. The price of houses go up 100k every year even if they're old fixer uppers.
I grew up in a suburb of Boston (south shore) but moved away when I was 26. I still visit family now and then but I have to say the crowds, traffic, and mean,nasty drivers keep me from wanting to ever move back. And housing prices are just stupid!
Democrat party legislation put in place over the last 50 years or so dooms New Jersey to permanently high taxes. Giving government workers a defined benefit pension plan is stupidity. Look at any State with financial problems, including large debt, and this feature is part of the problem. Permanent pro union, anti free market law makes sure taxpayers pay many millions more than they have to. lots of jobs that aren't needed at every level. I met a recently retired janitor who said if someone like him was the head guy in a big school, they could make over 100K. My next door neighbor is moving soon because he can't possibly afford the $10,000 the town now wants him to pay for property taxes. Were out of here in 5 or 6 years. The downside to big government socialism is partly the damage it does to so many people who pay the bills. Americans are so foolish.
beanie wrote:
80s kid wrote:I live 30 minutes outside of Boston and can't stand the traffic. People are terrible drivers and no one knows or follows the rules of the road. My wife and I have been saving for a down payment for a home for 2 years, we have about 60k now but that won't even cover PMI. The price of houses go up 100k every year even if they're old fixer uppers.
I grew up in a suburb of Boston (south shore) but moved away when I was 26. I still visit family now and then but I have to say the crowds, traffic, and mean,nasty drivers keep me from wanting to ever move back. And housing prices are just stupid!
That's where I live now. I can't remember the last time I commuted without stop n go traffic due to an accident or construction. They repave every road every year for no reason, yet there are still potholes everywhere. They don't do that nonsense in Europe. Public transit takes longer and costs more, it's ass backwards!
This is where our jobs are so we're stuck hoping for a real estate bubble to burst. Probably won't happen.
I've lived in CA my whole life, Greater LA and the Bay. I think you're right about the net-outflux of people from the state, though I think you're exaggerating its intensity. Yes, most of the influx is probably from immigration from south of the border (not just Mexico) and from Asia. Illegal immigration is a problem, but the Trumpian solutions suggested would create more additional problems. Those new problems would outstrip whatever solutions the massive gov't expenditure needed to round up millions of illegals, re-staff all the vacated jobs with higher wage American workers, replace all our taquerias with good honest American pancakes and eggs, "build that wall", surveil that wall, monitor the border guards at that wall, maintain that wall,regulate the underground passageways beneath that wall...
The key, of course, is to enforce the immigration laws that are already on the books, not create new ones.
CA has some real problems, but here in the Bay, which is one of the most liberal, high-tax places on the planet, people are coming from across the country, from all those low-tax, red states, in massive numbers to our cities. Why is that, pray tell? We're much more concerned with the in-flow from Iowa and Georgia than from Honduras, to be honest.
New England stinks, big time, especially the Mass-holes.
Horrendous drivers, the voters would elect dead Ted Kennedy, winters bite, the list is long.
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