#12 BYU men shock #1 Syracuse at Panorama Farms Invite

Yes, Syracuse will fall way down in the rankings

It does not look like Bennie is in shape

Hubbard DNF (injured?)

...and no #6 guy to step in

I would be surprised if Syracuse is top 8 in the next ranking

Go to 0:43 in the FloTrack recap video

Link:

http://www.flotrack.org/video/993059-mens-8k-final-knight-breaks-course-record-byu-upsets-cuse-and-stanford

McGorty and Fisher are just chilling

Can't believe they flew all the way out there not to race, oh wait, yes I can, it's Miltenburg

NOP Skeptic wrote:

Go to 0:43 in the FloTrack recap video

Link:

http://www.flotrack.org/video/993059-mens-8k-final-knight-breaks-course-record-byu-upsets-cuse-and-stanford

McGorty and Fisher are just chilling

Can't believe they flew all the way out there not to race, oh wait, yes I can, it's Miltenburg

33 seconds mark, SORRY

By the way: McGorty and Grant were just doing repeats on the track last week so I'm pretty sure they are healthy

If Keelan can get healthy, they win

Hgvhgvhbhbhj wrote:

Yes, Syracuse will fall way down in the rankings

It does not look like Bennie is in shape

Hubbard DNF (injured?)

...and no #6 guy to step in

I would be surprised if Syracuse is top 8 in the next ranking

Uhh- ok.

Now that they are done, who do you think is the best now? Who is in shape? Ducks? BYU? NAU?

Tell us man, we are hungry for some inside scoop.

On Bothma: Apparently she almost died of scarlet fever age 6 and struggled with her health for years, might actually be a case of developmental rather then ED issues. Hopefully she stays healthy regardless.

On Campbell's mascot: awesome! For some reason I thought of Rupp immediately....

Allahu Aakbarf wrote:

On Bothma: Apparently she almost died of scarlet fever age 6 and struggled with her health for years, might actually be a case of developmental rather then ED issues. Hopefully she stays healthy regardless.

On Campbell's mascot: awesome! For some reason I thought of Rupp immediately....

Don't know her personally, but I also had scarlet fever at the same age. I'm not sure if I can qualify that I "almost died" because I don't remember it very well, but I was very sick for a few months (the illness is treated via antibiotics, but used to be one of the biggest killers of children under 10 before their discovery). I also had an allergic reaction to the antibiotics I was given though...

Unless there is something not being disclosed (completely understandable), I'm not sure that low body weight can be attributed to scarlet fever in childhood. The main danger of scarlet fever in terms of lasting complications is heart damage, which could affect your body mass, but would likely make you incapable of being an elite runner...

. . . "tough run" is an understatement.

NOP Skeptic wrote:

McGorty and Fisher are just chilling

Can't believe they flew all the way out there not to race, oh wait, yes I can, it's Miltenburg

Shrug, McGorty got to watch his brother race this way.

Ya it's a story. Campbell's top 5 are all from Kenya.

That's how some programs can go from being un-ranked to ranked.

Just not right IMO.[/quote]

Just on right? What rule did they break? Were they turning away footlocker finalists? Or is the coach supposed to "know their place" and just be remain a "low major?"

You follow NCAA rules to put together the best team possible. Period.

I mean, how dare Ohio State come to Florida to recruit a bunch of good football players. Just not right IMO.

NYY 0 TOR 3 Top 7th wrote:

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Uhh- ok.

Now that they are done, who do you think is the best now? Who is in shape? Ducks? BYU? NAU?

Tell us man, we are hungry for some inside scoop.

Next ranking comes out on the 27th.... Hang in there...

malmo wrote:

rojo wrote:

I'm on vacation. I agree. Let's talk big picture here. Someone help me out. How in the hell does Stanford lose to campbell?

If the answer is "that wasn't the A team" then the AD should be pissed. The football ram doesn't fly across country to run play it's jv.

So can someone tell me who did and didnt run for Stanford?

Campbell University - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campbell_University

Looking at the schools mascot I'm sure they're going to be a letsrun favorite.

LOL. So are the women called the Gaylord Camel Toes?

LetsRun.com wrote:

Results here:

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2016/09/2016-panorama-farms-invitational-results/

BYU scored 39 to Syracuse's 44, even though Justyn Knight got the individual win in a course-record 23:13.8. Looks like Syracuse ran its entire top five, though Joel Hubbard (their #5 at NCAAs last year) only has a split at 2k. So it looks like he dropped out.

BYU women also won to give the Cougars the sweep.

It just shows how little the rankings at the end of the day mean.

People pontificating on what they think will happen or who will do what without any real basis outside of history. History is just that the past, these kids are running in here and now.

NYY 0 TOR 3 Top 7th wrote:

Hgvhgvhbhbhj wrote:

Yes, Syracuse will fall way down in the rankings

It does not look like Bennie is in shape

Hubbard DNF (injured?)

...and no #6 guy to step in

I would be surprised if Syracuse is top 8 in the next ranking

Uhh- ok.

Now that they are done, who do you think is the best now? Who is in shape? Ducks? BYU? NAU?

Tell us man, we are hungry for some inside scoop.

washington state boys are looking good imo.

LetsRun.com wrote:

Results here:

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2016/09/2016-panorama-farms-invitational-results/

BYU scored 39 to Syracuse's 44, even though Justyn Knight got the individual win in a course-record 23:13.8. Looks like Syracuse ran its entire top five, though Joel Hubbard (their #5 at NCAAs last year) only has a split at 2k. So it looks like he dropped out.

BYU women also won to give the Cougars the sweep.

I would personally like to thank the coaches of these two great programs for actually racing. You are doing good for the sport. Thank you!

rojo wrote:

John Clendon wrote:

Why does Syracuse only get the heat? What about Stanford losing to Campbell? I'd say Syracuse may have been a bit off with some of their runners. But it is only September 23rd...

Unranked Campbell beating out Stanford is more of story than Syracuse losing to BYU, a highly ranked team, by 5 points.

I'm on vacation. I agree. Let's talk big picture here. Someone help me out. How in the hell does Stanford lose to campbell?

If the answer is "that wasn't the A team" then the AD should be pissed. The football ram doesn't fly across country to run play it's jv.

So can someone tell me who did and didnt run for Stanford?

*its JV, not it's JV. Come on, it's not that hard.

Hgvhgvhbhbhj wrote:

Yes, Syracuse will fall way down in the rankings

It does not look like Bennie is in shape

Hubbard DNF (injured?)

...and no #6 guy to step in

I would be surprised if Syracuse is top 8 in the next ranking

Pretty sure they are not in a panic in Syracuse just yet

Also there is only 1 ranking that matters - the last one

I think it is important to note that coach Ed Eyestone in his interview with Flotrack said that BYU should not be ranked #1 - seems he's staying humble and hungry. After their last couple of years and some nationals disappointments he knows that he can't be counting his chickens before they hatch. The whole race would have been different with full Stanford and healthy Syracuse.

Just A Fan wrote:

I think it is important to note that coach Ed Eyestone in his interview with Flotrack said that BYU should not be ranked #1 - seems he's staying humble and hungry. After their last couple of years and some nationals disappointments he knows that he can't be counting his chickens before they hatch. The whole race would have been different with full Stanford and healthy Syracuse.

If...if...if...that's why they run the race. Stanford kitty'ed out, and Syracuse couldn't take the heat. Doubtful that byu will even be top 5 at the end of the year, but they won on that day. Stop making excuses, and give them their deserved kudos.