Hmmm that sounds reasonalble but I'm wondering if giving more time to the defendant to come up with a story will work out as hoped in catching inconsistencies. I think its still going to have to come down to whatever those trail experts were piecing together based on objective evidence that happened in real time.
Thing is, we really don't know what the adjudicators already know. As Just Bill said, the AT is a pretty small community after all. Someone like Warren Doyle has connections up and down the trail with hostel owners, shuttle drivers, hut crew, other hikers, etc. And KB doesn't know what the adjudicators have heard. So once she does submit her report, it will no doubt be scruitinized against all the information the adjudicators have received. She'll have to respond to any inconsistencies as well as support the increadible mileage on certain days that she'll have to claim. As I think on it, I doubt whiteblaze will need to reopen the thread after KB submits her report.
This the unsupported FKT, as it is unsupported by any objective data or verification.
Runalong wrote:
This the unsupported FKT, as it is unsupported by any objective data or verification.
Huh?
I'll spell it out real simple for the wake-and-bake "huh?" crowd: F-A-K-E.
Get off the drugs son wrote:
Runalong wrote:This the unsupported FKT, as it is unsupported by any objective data or verification.
Huh?
Get off the drugs son wrote:
Runalong wrote:This the unsupported FKT, as it is unsupported by any objective data or verification.
Huh?
Oh the irony
lollllll wrote:
Get off the drugs son wrote:Huh?
Oh the irony
I don't think you know what irony means.
lollllll wrote:
Get off the drugs son wrote:Huh?
Oh the irony
What Runalong wrote isn't a coherent sentence...at least to me.
Obviously he forgot to type "is"
Still easy to understand the joke
it that hard figure out?
RvaRunner wrote:
Took me 7:57 to cover 21 miles in Virginia on the AT yesterday. Granted I don't do a lot of hill training, but that 10 mile+ section from Tye River to Reeds Gap was absolutely no joke.Not only do you start with a 3,000 foot climb in the first 6 miles, but the amount of rocks and boulders were just ridiculous. It was like you had to watch every step. Probably not 1/2 of a mile of straight "runnable" trail the entire time.
After my debacle, I have way more respect for anyone who chooses to do thru hike it, regardless of time. I haven't run much of it, but if the rest of the AT is that bad, I don't care how long it takes you, it's damn impressive.
Try Maine or New Hampshire. It's much, much worse. The trail conditions make just about anything in Virginia seem like a cakewalk.
at first i skeptical but now that i know they are "holding themselves accountable for the truth" this changes things completely.
i mean why didnt they just say so in the first place instead of allowing all this speculation to run wild.
KB claims she free bled so why doesn't someone just Hansel and Gretel her ass and follow the blood trail to see where it leads?
He Goddam Mad Dog Eh wrote:
What Runalong wrote isn't a coherent sentence...at least to me.
That should read, at least "not" to me, and the ... should be a comma.
Mild Tard Ninja wrote:
KB claims she free bled so why doesn't someone just Hansel and Gretel her ass and follow the blood trail to see where it leads?
Puke in ma mouth again dammit.
Let's get some bloodhounds on that trail!
THX1139 wrote:
Let's get some bloodhounds on that trail!
I think she's got a bigger dog to worry about:
I've got to keep moving,
Blues falling down like hail,
The day keeps reminding me,
I got a Hellhound on my trail
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p04Sk7l1MxwA hostel owner has come out in support of Kaiha in a FaceBook post.
Kahia shared the Mountain Homes post with the following:
I will never be able to express my gratitude enough for the trail community and all the support and love that poured in during such an emotionally and physically challenging journey. From hostel owners, trail angels, thru-hikers who randomly helped pace alongside me to keep my energy up or fed me or insisted on giving me their water during a dry season because I refused to carry the weight. The impact you all have had on my heart and spirit gave me the strength to keep going and not stop. I love you all with my big ass heart and look forward to paying it forward and nurturing these relationships for years to come. #HikerTrashForeverAndAlways #BeTheChange #ShoutFromTheHeart #IWontBeBullied #YesAllWomen #HikeForOurLives #IWontBeSilenced #WarriorQueens #WarriorKings #WakeUpAndLive
Below is Scott Jenkin's post on his Mountain Homes page:
I'm bothered by all the controversy around Kaiha Bertollini's (Wildcard Ninja) recent record-breaking AT through hike. I don't normally write such long diatribes and I generally avoid posting anything controversial on our Mountain Home page. The palpable sense of competition and jealousy really doesn't fit with the trail community I know. Kaiha's a friend and a part of our Mountain Home community, so I want to express my view and demonstrate support for Kaiha's cause and for her accomplishment of thru-hiking faster than anyone's ever done it before.
On the trail, we say "Hike your own hike." And from the beginning, that's exactly what Kaiha did. In early Spring, on her way North, Kaiha stayed at the Cabbin for three days before ultimately taking a brief break from the trail to spend important time with her family. In the intimacy of the Cabbin, you get to know someone really well over three days and so, by the time she departed, I was able to call Kaiha a friend. And, importantly, I could vouch for her personal integrity as she stayed longer than planned in order to wait on funds to catch up with her so she could pay her bill in full.
From that point on, I followed Kaiha's hike and kept in touch. Through our correspondence, I saw the essence of her character as she formulated a plan to draw awareness to her cause by doing something so audacious that people would pause to find out what could possibly drive a person to push herself to such an extreme. As Kaiha pushed North through New Hampshire, she started to test herself by lengthening her days into forced marches through the night, to find the limits of her endurance. Then, having summited Katahdin, Kaiha set her sights on breaking the unassisted speed record on a SOBO return hike.
I've hiked my share of long days, but I am not a speed hiker and I don't fully understand what drives a person to speed through the beauty of the Appalachian Trail. But, I do know that with faith, determination, and persistence, anything's possible. And so, when Kaiha announced her intention, I knew it was entirely within the realm of possibility for her to break the record. I followed Kaiha's rapid progress southward and kept in touch along the way, even taking time to advise ATC of a safety incident that occurred in Pennsylvania. I looked forward to seeing my friend on her way through Virginia and I was thrilled when Kaiha overnighted at the Cabbin September 2nd. Before she left the next day, I remember we talked about staying focused and not letting anything distract her from her goal. She was poised for a big day as she hiked out early the morning of September 3rd.
Early the following morning, she announced she'd had a 50+ mile day and I was not surprised. I was not surprised because I've seen her passion and determination firsthand. I have also witnessed Kaiha's personal integrity. I wanted to pay for her September 2nd Cabbin stay, but after she had departed, I found money she had left in our donation pot - payment in full that she knew she didn't have to leave. With Kaiha, what you see is what you get. There are no games; there are no secrets. The person who emerged on the trail is as genuine as it gets.
And so, there's controversy around competing claims for the speed record. On the one hand, you have an experienced, corporate-sponsored professional world-class athlete. On the other hand, you have an unheralded but intensely driven hiker named Wildcard Ninja. The ATC doesn't recognize records, relying on each person's veracity to report their trail experience. In the end, anyone who sets foot on the trail is a winner in my book. But when I consider what I've witnessed, I can only draw one conclusion about the truth of Kaiha's accomplishment. I believe in her tenacity and strength of character and so I have faith in her.
Scott Jenkins
"Possible"
MEGA '12
We'll post Kaiha's picture as soon as Lisa can dig it up from her phone.....
PavementRunner94 wrote:
And so, there's controversy around competing claims for the speed record. On the one hand, you have an experienced, corporate-sponsored professional world-class athlete. On the other hand, you have an unheralded but intensely driven hiker named Wildcard Ninja. The ATC doesn't recognize records, relying on each person's veracity to report their trail experience. In the end, anyone who sets foot on the trail is a winner in my book. But when I consider what I've witnessed, I can only draw one conclusion about the truth of Kaiha's accomplishment. I believe in her tenacity and strength of character and so I have faith in her.
Scott Jenkins
"Possible"
MEGA '12
What a load of...
Not one thing he said gives any credence to her record claim. She was a pleasant person and paid her bill, okay, but how does that prove that she set the record? He didn't even claim to witness her hiking even one mile.
"But, I do know that with faith, determination, and persistence, anything's possible."
No it's not. I can have all the faith, determination, and persistence in the world, but it won't make me run a 2 hour marathon.
She may have tenacity and strength of character (because she seemed nice and paid her bill), but that doesn't mean that a pear-shaped woman can backpack a trail faster than a top male ultrarunner runs it.
Good. You have a confirmed sighting of KB leaving Front Royal VA on Sept 3. She finished her hike on the Springer Mt summit on late afternoon, September 18, so she would have had to average a bit over 60 miles per day to cover the 969 miles from Front Royal to Springer in that time frame. I'm sure the hike adjudicators will find this all quite convincing.
Faith Based Testimony wrote:
Good. You have a confirmed sighting of KB leaving Front Royal VA on Sept 3. She finished her hike on the Springer Mt summit on late afternoon, September 18, so she would have had to average a bit over 60 miles per day to cover the 969 miles from Front Royal to Springer in that time frame. I'm sure the hike adjudicators will find this all quite convincing.
Sure, piece of cake for a Ninja. Walk 20 hours a day, sleep 4 hours.