Thank goodness - IAAF World Youth Championships will no longer be held after 2017

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  • LetsRun.com
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    3 years ago 09/01/2016 8:31am CDT
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    We just read that the championships were cancelled in Rio starting after the 2017 Wold Youths in Kenya.

    We always felt the money they spent on the event was a total waste.

    The champs were really about who had hit puberty the earliest of doctored their birth certificates the most.

    http://trackalerts.com/Articles/no-more-world-u18-championships-the-caribbean-impact/22487?
  • Letsrun MB - September 1st
    3 years ago 09/01/2016 8:42am CDT
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    http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=7627909
  • gadsdafgda
    3 years ago 09/01/2016 8:47am CDT
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    Yeah but the guys with the doctored birth certificates don't exactly have a lot of alternatives in their lives, it's kind of hard to hold it against them. And I don't see the problem with having a platform for young americans to get their butts kicked by 25-year old Africans. It's nice to have a series of levels of competition for younger/lower level guys to aim for.
  • Shoebacca
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    3 years ago 09/01/2016 9:02am CDT
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    While the event may not have been run efficiently it's still sad to see a big stage taken away from youth. Hopefully all the really good kids will still find meets where they can compete.
  • kitty bar the door
    3 years ago 09/01/2016 9:17am CDT
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    Agreed - too may who competed hit their peak with that meet and were hardly heard from again, with some exceptions of course.
    The Junior meet (labeled U20 now) is enough as very talented Youth aged athletes can also compete here.
    Heppenstall competed at the Junior meet in 2014 as a Youth -aged athlete. he moved up to Pan Am Jnr (podium) the next year (2015), then to NCAA finals (indoor and out) along with U20 final this year (2016) in his last year as a Junior. This should be enough to foster a proper Senior career - no one has to be great at 15/16 in order to be a success later.
    I think winning at the Youth level can be more a curse than a blessing, and confers pubertal advantages that really shouldn't be recognized. While Bolt won as a Youth (2003 Sherbrooke), was it really necessary for his long-term development?
  • stater of the obvious
    3 years ago 09/01/2016 11:43am CDT
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    but with the youth world champs this moment in time never would have happened.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdexkdpkIgk
  • C'mon now
    3 years ago 09/01/2016 11:45am CDT
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    Fantastic! One less track meet to follow. We must all be happy!
  • Samuel DeChamplain
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    3 years ago 09/01/2016 11:51am CDT
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    world juniors will still be held right?
  • Gene Wilder
    3 years ago 09/01/2016 5:01pm CDT
    re: LetsRun.com
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    LetsRun.com wrote:

    We just read that the championships were cancelled in Rio starting after the 2017 Wold Youths in Kenya.

    We always felt the money they spent on the event was a total waste.

    The champs were really about who had hit puberty the earliest of doctored their birth certificates the most.

    http://trackalerts.com/Articles/no-more-world-u18-championships-the-caribbean-impact/22487?

    For once I have to agree. As talented as the E. Africans are (and the drug revelations are showing they aren't as talented as everyone has been led to believe) the fact is that the E. Africans were filthy, disgusting cheats with easily 90% of their entries being well past the age for Youth Championships, and the same goes for the Junior Champs. And many other winners were merely those who matured earlier than their competitors.
  • Progressive Brah
    3 years ago 09/01/2016 7:25pm CDT
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    C'mon now wrote:

    Fantastic! One less track meet to follow. We must all be happy!

    Hopefully their next move is to ditch the worthless road race championships and world cross. Those events have no meaning.
  • Karma Police
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    3 years ago 09/01/2016 7:43pm CDT
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    stater of the obvious wrote:

    but with the youth world champs this moment in time never would have happened.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdexkdpkIgk

    Pretty sure that was at a world juniors.
  • Karma Police
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    3 years ago 09/01/2016 7:45pm CDT
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    LetsRun.com wrote:

    We just read that the championships were cancelled in Rio starting after the 2017 Wold Youths in Kenya.

    We always felt the money they spent on the event was a total waste.

    The champs were really about who had hit puberty the earliest of doctored their birth certificates the most.

    http://trackalerts.com/Articles/no-more-world-u18-championships-the-caribbean-impact/22487?

    The champs weren't just about that. There was also a question of who at 15-16 was already training like an adult.

    Euros have just started a European Youth champs. For those of the right age and training age appropriately, the meet could be a springboard to bigger things. Trouble is, there might not be many of them.

    I'm not from the US and around here, the standards are tough to qualify - because our national body has found that being good at youth level does not give you a higher chance of going on with it.
  • Lydiard is God
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    3 years ago 09/02/2016 7:39pm CDT
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    Karma Police wrote:
    The champs weren't just about that. There was also a question of who at 15-16 was already training like an adult.

    Euros have just started a European Youth champs. For those of the right age and training age appropriately, the meet could be a springboard to bigger things. Trouble is, there might not be many of them.

    I'm not from the US and around here, the standards are tough to qualify - because our national body has found that being good at youth level does not give you a higher chance of going on with it.

    The Australian standards for the mid and long distance were ridiculously faster than the IAAF standards. All it did was foster overtraining to get them, and some nasty bickering between the two leading 1500m guys.
  • jjjjjj
    3 years ago 09/02/2016 8:04pm CDT
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    The fact that they allowed Kenya and Ethiopia, among others, to run age cheaters out there every time was the problem, not the concept itself. Legitimate proof of age would have to be the basis for any such championships.
  • beentheredonethat
    3 years ago 09/05/2016 1:56pm CDT
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    I wonder if you'd feel the same way if you'd ever attended one of those meets and noticed the experiences that the Team USA athletes had. I've been to several and if you ask the kids on the 2015 team, for example, I think they would say it was one of the best experiences of their lives. Some of the recent medalists with senior-level success include Ryan Crouser, Kirani James, Dalilah Muhammad, Arman Hall, Jacko Gill, Kendell Williams, and many others.

    LetsRun.com wrote:

    We just read that the championships were cancelled in Rio starting after the 2017 Wold Youths in Kenya.

    We always felt the money they spent on the event was a total waste.

    The champs were really about who had hit puberty the earliest of doctored their birth certificates the most.

    http://trackalerts.com/Articles/no-more-world-u18-championships-the-caribbean-impact/22487?
  • Good grief `/,
    3 years ago 09/05/2016 2:00pm CDT
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    LetsRun.com wrote:

    The champs were really about who had hit puberty the earliest of doctored their birth certificates the most.

    The Brojos have no shame.

    They've always had issues with talented women, Regina Jacobs, Mary Decker, and been quite parochial, going after the Russians and Chinese, but covering up for the dirty cheat Radcliffe.

    Now they're trying to get rid of the women's events, and to make everyone compete in the same division.
  • streamliner
    3 years ago 09/05/2016 2:52pm CDT
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    C'mon now wrote:

    Fantastic! One less track meet to follow. We must all be happy!

    Great news. Get rid of world Juniors next please IAAF. Then when you have sort outed the age cheat problem please can you get rid of the women's category to stop the sex cheats like Semanya taking advantage. And finally to solve the drug cheat problem please can you get rid of any IAAF competition or championship! The world will then be a better place.
  • Ben L Wrong
    3 years ago 09/05/2016 4:44pm CDT
    re: kitty bar the door
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    kitty bar the door wrote:


    I think winning at the Youth level can be more a curse than a blessing, and confers pubertal advantages that really shouldn't be recognized. While Bolt won as a Youth (2003 Sherbrooke), was it really necessary for his long-term development?

    He ran 20.13 as U-18, and months later, he signed with Puma.