Swimmer Mack Horton blasts doper sitting next to him at press conference

True facts meet Aussie reality wrote:

it could be said that Australia (49) is heaps awful.

It could be, but that doesn't mean it's true, subsequent posts would appear to disprove that.

Australia is like most other countries, they are forgiving of the professional code players of the team they support such as rugby/Australian Rules football who get caught (and in the US I'm guessing football/basketball/baseball/ice hockey).

No one really cares about weight lifters/body builders, it's a case of hohum, well yeah they all do it.

But if you're a swimmer, T&F athlete, Tri-athlete, cyclist, rower, etc and you get caught them you're seen as being down there with the pedophiles and old lady bashers. For instance you'd never get the situation that the US has with Denis Mitchell.

Mack Horton the aussie cheato wrote:

Phantasy Star wrote:

Yup.

Many of those most vocal about being "anti-drugs" are in fact drug cheats themselves.

See Paula "EPO Cheats Out" Radcliffe

Red Ribbon el G

Bolt talking shit about Gay

David Torrence calling out Lagat...... despite the fact that he trained with Aden

And so on.

The real question is... how do these self righteous cheaters make sure they won't be busted like the ones they bad mouth about? What makes them confident they will pass the test and bask in glory?

What phantasy world do you three live in where you think Horton would call out a drug cheat when he knows he is using himself?

Seriously?

Paula Radcliffe supposedly did it, so everyone taking a stand against drugs is also using? Based on a sample size of 1?

So if they are clean they should speak out, but if they speak out it means they are dirty?

I just shake my head sometimes.

Loser please wrote:

Thorpedo wrote:

Australia had the dirtiest program in the world for eight years.

International swimming forced Ian Thorpe to retire or face a lifetime ban.

The rest of the clowns on his relay teams all served bans or were forced to retire.

Good on ya mate...

Whatever.

Source? Details?

No?

Liar.

Thorpe was world class at 14. Was he doping then too?

Does it make you guys feel better to throw mud at people like him?

We need more non-sports wrote:

There's even one there for Surf Life Saving.

Hard to figure out which is the dumbest.

Portugal getting 3 failures in Sport Casting (fishing?), Thailand with one in Xiangqi (Chinese Chess?), UK with Darts, or Slovenia with Cheer.

The sport of surf life saving makes a sport of the skills needed to save lives at the beach - swim, run, board, paddle out and bring someone back.

Sledge it all you want, but pay these guys (and girls) some respect.

Mack the Butter Knife wrote:

LOL ... a butt-sore dude. Has acne and a hard square jaw. Make up your own mind how clean this Aussie is.

Yeah, must have been on them as a kid judging by this photo of him at around 10yo.

MH wrote:

Mack the Butter Knife wrote:

LOL ... a butt-sore dude. Has acne and a hard square jaw. Make up your own mind how clean this Aussie is.

Yeah, must have been on them as a kid judging by this photo of him at around 10yo.

https://socialfeed.info/a-photograph-of-a-young-mack-horton-meeting-his-olympic-hero-grant-2005515

Can you explain to me why people are wildly accusing Horton of taking PEDs - with zero justification at all?

By the way - the Aussie 2012 swimmers drug scandal was them taking sleeping tablets on a night out, as an initiation thing. They were not PEDs, not taken for that purpose, not during a comp, and the swimmers got their balls busted big time.

It's making a great story here in Australia in all the media, they love it, it makes dollars. And after the Olympics Sun and others will be invited to Australia for a series of match races, happens after every Olympics between Aussies and selected protagonists, apart from sponsorship, it's the only chance they have to make any dollars. Mack knows exactly what he needs to do to raise his profile and luckily for him he's got a convicted cheater to help him do it.

Karma Police wrote:

Can you explain to me why people are wildly accusing Horton of taking PEDs - with zero justification at all?

To get people like you to bite. It's an unregistered forum, reply once then ignore them, they're trolling.

His sudden failure at the 2015 Worlds (to even make the finals in 2 events) due to a so-called "parasitic bug" might be a reason. Perhaps people are cynical of covers-up these days.

Also, there was a MASSIVE expose in the Aussie press last year about Oz become a "drugs cheat haven" (for foreigners of course).

Hmm, you coach foreign dopers, but your "local, Australian swimmers" are clean? What are the odds of that?

Everything is justified wrote:

there was a MASSIVE expose in the Aussie press last year about Oz become a "drugs cheat haven" (for foreigners of course).

Oh really, MASSIVE?

And how do you stop a foreign athlete you're coaching from taking PEDs and choosing not to tell anyone, including the coach, about it.

Also, go and check out ASADA you may learn something:

Well, FMD... wrote:

Take a look at this (it's not very long):

Australian Government - Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority

Sanctions - Violations List

https://www.asada.gov.au/sanctions

A lot of mostly weightlifters, body builders, various rugby/football codes, one swimmer:

Michal Zawadka Swimming Australia Presence, Use Clenbuterol, 1 3-dimethylpentylamine (methylhexaneamine)

But wait, well, FMD, he's Polish!:

"11 May 2016

The Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority (ASADA) today acknowledged the decision of Swimming Australia to impose a four-year ban on Polish swimmer Michal Zawadka.

ASADA CEO Ben McDevitt said: “The fight against doping is a global one, and ASADA can and does test international athletes who train or compete in Australia. We are committed to ensuring our clean athletes compete on a level playing field.”

Why do we see Chinese/Russian training in Australia/USA, but not vice-versa? Maybe because it's easier to "beat the system" in the latter two locales? At least this is if you have the right nationality!

Everything is justified wrote:

Hmm, you coach foreign dopers, but your "local, Australian swimmers" are clean? What are the odds of that?

Swimming coaches are pros. For the right money, they will coach anyone.

carne asada wrote:

Why do we see Chinese/Russian training in Australia/USA, but not vice-versa? Maybe because it's easier to "beat the system" in the latter two locales? At least this is if you have the right nationality!

I'm pretty sure it's got more to do with the level of coaching you get there. I can't imagine a foreign swimmer would be expecting special treatment in a foreign country.

Kylie Palmer is the obvious one, having won relay medals with Australia in last two (2) Olympics, but they exposed as a drugs cheat in 2013-5 (and not just a negligence, as with Sun and Efimova, but furosemide). She'd be "on the team" (Rio 2016) if not for injury. FINA, of course, tried to cover up for the "good guys", but fortunately WADA stepped in, and even then they only gave her (as an Australian) only a meaningless "reprimand". Would the loud-mouth Mack Aussie complain about her?

WADA Boss: FINA Ignored Our Questions On Kylie Palmer For 20 Months After ‘Positive’

FINA stands accused of ignoring WADA. “WADA first requested information from FINA on the case on 5 October 2013, with a reminder sent on 4th December 2013 – both were ignored. More than a year then passed before we were informed on 23 December 2014 that the case had been closed.” – David Howman, head of WADA on the case of Kylie Palmer

Gee, how "convenient" how some countries are treated, by supposedly "unbiased" federations like FINA?

Nice effort at a biute.

Not like when the Chinese swim team turned up to Australia for a World Champs and Aussie customs sprang then with syringes, vials of drugs etc.

Let's forget about that one, shall we?

Mack the Butter Knife wrote:

LOL ... a butt-sore dude. Has acne and a hard square jaw. Make up your own mind how clean this Aussie is.

Phantasy Star wrote:

Yup.

Many of those most vocal about being "anti-drugs" are in fact drug cheats themselves.

See Paula "EPO Cheats Out" Radcliffe

Red Ribbon el G

Bolt talking shit about Gay

David Torrence calling out Lagat...... despite the fact that he trained with Aden

And so on.

Mack Horton the aussie cheato wrote:

The real question is... how do these self righteous cheaters make sure they won't be busted like the ones they bad mouth about? What makes them confident they will pass the test and bask in glory?

Exactly. The ones calling out others are the dirtiest rotten cheaters, exposing themselves, trying to cover their own butts. In addition to being dirty rotten cheats, they're the biggest promoters of drug use in athletics!

Add the following to the list:

Seb Coe

Lilly King --- also needs a gender test

Michael Phelps

I'm unregistered. wrote:

Karma Police wrote:

Can you explain to me why people are wildly accusing Horton of taking PEDs - with zero justification at all?

To get people like you to bite. It's an unregistered forum, reply once then ignore them, they're trolling.

Karma Police is long time troll on these forums. He is in reverse troll mode.