relocator wrote:
Lots of them Canadians buying real estate in California for some reason?
\and Florida
relocator wrote:
Lots of them Canadians buying real estate in California for some reason?
\and Florida
Off the Grid wrote:
Gym Leader Brock wrote:sports in Toronto sucks!?!?!
Raptors, Bluejays, Leafs okay fine but still an original 6ix team, Argos, TFC, Rock
Yes they suck.
Championships:
Raptors - never
Bluejays - '93
Leafs - '64
Argos????? Are you serious? CFL vs NFL?
The Oshawa Generals are the closest thing to a championship team in the GTA.
Again, compared to a US city, sports in Toronto suck rabid monkey dick. If you have lived in a US city w/ decent sports, lets hear it.
Jays are 92 and 93
Leafs are 67 you toolbox and the many times before that
Conspiracy that the leagues don't want a Canadian team to win because it's bad for the US market.....MLB, NBA
Leafs are rebuilding still a bigger team than many US teams...Las Vegas GTFO
what other city has a major team from almost every league (other than NFL??) LA NY CHI...
Again, I'm from the US and have lived in Canada 5yrs
Compared to US cities (the original question), professional sports in TO at least, suck. I suggest you go live in LA, SF, NY, DC etc to understand what I am talking about.
An American moving to Canada and specifically Toronto would be underwhelmed by the sports culture here
In every socio economic category Canada outperforms USA by a large margin.
But don't take my word for it simply google quality of life indicators and socio economic indicators.
Canada:
1. better health,
2. happier people,
3. better equality,
4. better access and quality of eduction (not just university),
5. better looking people and funny too (fact sorry)
6. more inclusive and tolerant nation (just ship the Statue of Liberty up to Ottawa ... ),
7. better job prospects,
8. Water water everywhere ... and I can drink it all (even the toilet of Lake Ontario)
9. better culture;
10. but most of all we are mindless drones who actually think our government serves our national interests (we are the 51st State but nobody has told us ... see point 4 better education does not equal smarter people apparently).
We are owned and operated by the US/Western rulers.
Only other countries I would consider living in are Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Iceland, or Finland.
former canuck runner wrote:
Off the Grid wrote:The healthcare is where the doctors want to be. And doctors want to be in cities, and close to hospitals, universities and other resources.
Huh? What does that first sentence mean? If you mean doctors like being doctors, well that's true. Doctors do extremely well in both countries. Most doctors I knew in Canada had golf memberships to the best private clubs.
As a Canadian that moved to the US, I prefer American healthcare even with the new changes. My dad wasn't given proper cancer treatment because of his age in Canada and died as a result.
What else should OP watch out for? Get a flat tire, and it could take a day to get it fixed even in a big city. Customer service rules in the US. I get flat tires fixed in 20 minutes here. The two times I had flats in Canada, it was a full day in the shop.
Want something online? Expect to pay way more in Canada, pay too much for shipping and deal with abysmal shipping service.
I can't imagine moving back there. It is not as idyllic as they make it out to be.
Access to health care is much worse in rural areas because doctors typically don't want to live/work there. It's been incentivized (I forget if it still is) in the past from a monetary standpoint, to no avail. So issues that require specialists are terrible from an access standpoint and that's being worked on. Slow process though.
What Off the Grid said about the care not catering to customer desires is very correct, but it's missing part of the picture (though I completely get what was meant). Although it still needs a LOT of work, I think Canada's a lot more robust in terms of standardization of care and is MUCH better than the US in terms of over-medicating. Care is moving towards a paradigm of patient-centred care, which means that the patient is in charge of their own decisions, but that does not extend to opting for care that is not medically recommended or necessary.
We're dealing with some funding problems right now, but that's a complicated topic.
I'll post a few pointers for you as a Canadian who knows a few Americans who have moved here for school & opportunities.
1. If you have student loans you won't be able to obtain them through a Canadian student loan and you will only be able to take them out through an American company. This means you will have financial ties to the US for many years to come.
2. School is cheaper here than US schools however as a US citizen for you it counts as "international tuition" so expect to pay 3-5x more than your new Canadian friends but still less than most US universities.
3. Our money is coloured and makes a hell of a lot more sense, however it is worth about 75 cents per US Dollar at the moment.
4. If you fancy yourself a drink, get ready to pay at least 30% more for just about everything that has alcohol in it. Also very rarely will places sell alcohol in grocery stores.
5.Outside of Toronto & Vancouver living expenses are very reasonable and our power & water bills are lower than most of the US.
6. Becoming a permanent resident is a lot of red tape but we do allow people to hold dual nationality.
7. We also have very few private universities- about 95% are public. Universities in Western Canada except British Columbia I believe are a great value for money spent with very low living expenses.
8. Whatever you see at a store prepare to add anywhere from 9-14% to your bill at the till. Provincial and Government sales tax can really add up when you want to buy something rather expensive. Also gas is in LITRES so brush up on the metric system.
9. You could survive in Montreal Quebec as an English-only speaker and there are 2 reputable English universities there as well - McGill and Concordia
10. Since you are looking at grad school also look at learning French because you are basically guaranteed employment if you speak both languages with high proficiency.
Bon voyage!
Canadians are generally a fun-loving, friendly, generous group.
The Quebecois are notoriously cheap, though. The next time one of them leaves a tip on a restaurant table, it will be the first time.
If you are Canadian first you can get duel citizenship but if american first you have to choose
I live in Vancouver, grew up in Montreal, lived in Toronto for 6 years and in Vancouver now for 22 years.
Original reason for moving to BC was to be able to run in better weather, fed up with running in sub zero temps. BC is a GREAT fitness/outdoor activity Mecca. Skiing, cross-country or downhill, running, biking, mountain or road, or track as there is a Velodrome in Burnaby. Lots of triathlons too. Obviously all kinds of water sports.
Slower pace living then in USA in every aspect.
Where in the USA do you live now? Which grad school you considering here?
Blah Blah. wrote:
It is filled with liberals. If you are a liberal would does not believe in freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and the right to bear arms you should be OK.
Yep. No Bill of Rights. If you are happy in Portland, S.F., or Seattle, you might be very, very happy in Vancouver.
Off the Grid wrote:
But you have far fewer healthcare incidentals, so it generally evens out.
AS far as the quality of healthcare, it is great. There are some wait times imposed by design, but they are not onerous. I think people in the US imagine that wait times == LA County Hospital on Saturday night, and nothing could be further from the case.
If this were true, why are there so many news stories from legitimate trusted sources that cite many cases of Canucks coming to the states to get healthcare so that they don't die waiting in line for their "free" healthcare?
As in many cities, various neighborhoods and suburbs of Vancouver differ greatly in their ethnicity and culture. Check it out.
Eh Team wrote:
In every socio economic category Canada outperforms USA by a large margin.
But don't take my word for it simply google quality of life indicators and socio economic indicators.
Canada:
1. better health,
2. happier people,
3. better equality,
4. better access and quality of eduction (not just university),
5. better looking people and funny too (fact sorry)
6. more inclusive and tolerant nation (just ship the Statue of Liberty up to Ottawa ... ),
7. better job prospects,
8. Water water everywhere ... and I can drink it all (even the toilet of Lake Ontario)
9. better culture;
10. but most of all we are mindless drones who actually think our government serves our national interests (we are the 51st State but nobody has told us ... see point 4 better education does not equal smarter people apparently).
We are owned and operated by the US/Western rulers.
Only other countries I would consider living in are Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Iceland, or Finland.
I agree with you almost 100% with only one exception. #4.
I think we should also add:
11. Canadians are boring.
12. Canadians from Alberta are the most boring Canadians.
13. Canadians from Edmonton are the most boring Canadians from Alberta.
14. Fred is the most boring Canadian from Edmonton.
Don't do it. Canada is freezing everywhere always. Unless you want to live in an igloo don't bother. As soon as you cross the border the temperature plummets at least 40 degrees. Example - say it's 81 degrees on the US side of the border - cross the border, it instantly plummets to 27!!!! This is the truth and not a joke. Do not go to that Arctic wasteland!
I've been to all major cities there except Edmonton and enjoyed them ..made several trips to PEI.
The local news regularly reported healthcare horror stories from those living in the Maritime provinces and Newfoundland.
If you're over 50 you can forget about getting elective surgery, knees, shoulder, hip, because they rank patients needs due to doctor shortages, and so those sorts of care go to the end of the line.
There was a story about a child that had a serious head injury in New Brunswick and the parents drove 50 miles to the closest clinic and found it was closed due to budget cuts.
way it is wrote:
Off the Grid wrote:But you have far fewer healthcare incidentals, so it generally evens out.
AS far as the quality of healthcare, it is great. There are some wait times imposed by design, but they are not onerous. I think people in the US imagine that wait times == LA County Hospital on Saturday night, and nothing could be further from the case.
If this were true, why are there so many news stories from legitimate trusted sources that cite many cases of Canucks coming to the states to get healthcare so that they don't die waiting in line for their "free" healthcare?
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Every year, 40k Canadians travel for healthcare. 1-2mm Americans do as well. The US is 10x the size of Canada, so Americans are several times more likely to travel overseas for healthcare.
SonjaHenie wrote:
I've been to all major cities there except Edmonton and enjoyed them ..made several trips to PEI.
The local news regularly reported healthcare horror stories from those living in the Maritime provinces and Newfoundland.
If you're over 50 you can forget about getting elective surgery, knees, shoulder, hip, because they rank patients needs due to doctor shortages, and so those sorts of care go to the end of the line.
There was a story about a child that had a serious head injury in New Brunswick and the parents drove 50 miles to the closest clinic and found it was closed due to budget cuts.
Every day we read about a child getting shot in the US, so it balances out.
Gym Leader Brock wrote:
If you are Canadian first you can get duel citizenship but if american first you have to choose
Not true. Americans can have dual citizenship through naturalization. E.g. me
Smile has obviously never been to Canada.